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Patterson V's Schulz

CptJonno2Madcow2005 said:
My point is fella,s Patto lost almost 2yrs in his development due to Simmo going down.His kicking is acceptable for a bloke his size in fact its gotten better.His handball is his strong point.
Id like to see Patto spend the whole year at Coburg at CHF next year before making any decision on him.
lost 2 yrs now that is funny.the excuses just get better and better. playing 50 senior games stunted his development omg ive heard it all now. playing as a second string ruckman mainly against second string ruckmen and because he usually got towelled up his development has been stifled . much more freedom roaming around the ground than playing chf besides at chf you are expected to take overhead marks even at coburg. sheesh they did him a favour after all he got to use his only decent assett and thats his so called elite motor.
 
Big year for Les next year. Went backwards a bit this year through (IMO) a loss of confidence from very sporadic game time early in the year.
 
Disco08 said:
Big year for Les next year. Went backwards a bit this year through (IMO) a loss of confidence from very sporadic game time early in the year.

I hope that we don't pick up any rucks now except 18 year olds. If Simmo goes down we have Patto and Guss rucking, if they are good enough, great- otherwise the clubs only has itself to blame.

Cartilage seemed like a good fellah, and it was a good experiment but he's no longer rookie list eligible, it's probably time for a big non-AFL contract interstate league for him.
 
From the limited amount I have seen of him, Patto will only make it in a KP up forward. Not athletic enough to be a modern CHB.

Personally I feel we had to keep both Patto and *smile*, even though I consider both replaceable. They are entirely different players, so comparisons about which one we could do without are a little off the mark IMO.
 
I've always failed to see what it was in Pattison that warranted him being drafted...by anyone!

Not tall enough for ruck, not strong enough or anywhere good enough mark to be a KPP. Maybe if he didnt have the "hunch" he might hit the 200cm mark! He's still an ordinary kick too. I've heard he has a great "motor" for a big fella...big deal. It's no good if you can't get the ball and if you do get it can't do anything with it.

Schulz on the other hand does have the ability to be a good AFL player (good mark and usually a fairly decent kick) but he too probably won't make it as a permanent AFL player.
 
CptJonno2Madcow2005 said:
I find it amusing that people are quick to write off Patto if you take into consideration how long its acceptable for Talls to click.You also have to take into account he was "forced" to be fast tracked into the Ruck because of the injury to Simmo.I havnt given up on him top be a bollocking CHF to at the very least make a contest for our crumbers.
Valid point Mad Cow. Remember Earl Spalding....about as quick as a 3 toed sloth...and about as skillful, but he managed to make himself a useful player, particularly in the 3rd and 4th quarters as players around him tired. Patto has way more upside than Spalding ever did. Different eras I know, but Patto is definately worth sticking with. Clubs should never throw away talls unless they are completely useless.
 
the claw said:
lost 2 yrs now that is funny.the excuses just get better and better. playing 50 senior games stunted his development omg ive heard it all now. playing as a second string ruckman mainly against second string ruckmen and because he usually got towelled up his development has been stifled . much more freedom roaming around the ground than playing chf besides at chf you are expected to take overhead marks even at coburg. sheesh they did him a favour after all he got to use his only decent assett and thats his so called elite motor.

Absolutely spot on.

I love that part about his development being stifled by playing senior football? Not getting a chance to develop? What garbage from Madcow.
 
evo said:
Seriously,if Patto ever becomes our permanent CHF,God help us.

:hihi

I certainly wasn't suggesting he would, only that his only chance of succeeding in our team would be as a KPF. Not a ruckman, and not a KPD.
 
IanG said:
He was the All Australian CHF at U18 level.

He may well have been but that doesn't automatically make him an AFL player.

What I want to know is what it was about him, as a player, that made an AFL club think "yeah, we want him. He's good at ....." Good at what?

I personally don't see a lot of upside about him. As I said he's meant to have a good "motor" for a tall and others have said he's got determination but geez I thought you'd want a little bit more than that to be an AFL player.

He's an ordinary mark and kick. he doesn't go and bust packs. He's an ordinary tap ruckman.

All I see is yet another battler on our list and God knows we've seen enough of them at RFC over the last 25 years.

Mark him down as yet another of our "hold onto them for 5/6/7 seasons as next year he's gonna be great!" players.
 
IanG said:
He was the All Australian CHF at U18 level.

No he wasn't. He was the CHF in the TAC cup team of the year. Big difference. He didn't even play in the National Champs from memory.
 
Opulentus Tigris said:
Valid point Mad Cow. Remember Earl Spalding....about as quick as a 3 toed sloth...and about as skillful, but he managed to make himself a useful player, particularly in the 3rd and 4th quarters as players around him tired. Patto has way more upside than Spalding ever did. Different eras I know, but Patto is definately worth sticking with. Clubs should never throw away talls unless they are completely useless.

The big difference between Earl and Adam is that Spalding was a good mark and he did crunch packs and hurt oppostion players.

Patto doesn't do anything like that!
 
tigertim said:
The big difference between Earl and Adam is that Spalding was a good mark and he did crunch packs and hurt oppostion players.

Patto doesn't do anything like that!

He might in time. Not many players come into the comp these days with the confidence or strength to be able to do that.