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Tigers president to hand over the reins at end of 2022
Peggy O'Neal will finish up as Tigers president at the end of this year
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Peggy O'Neal To Step Down at end of 2022
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During her Presidency we became a powerhouse again. 3 Premierships in 4 years. Showed the metal to stick with Dimma at the end of 16, brushed off board challenges and kept the club focused on it's objectives. Financially solid club, record membership, and through it all has kept the club quite humble.
Best President we've ever had.
Harsh on the first one. I’m assuming you’ve worked for organisations sponsored by gambling companies (and know that) so would be a bit kettle and pot given part of your salary effectively comes from this. I think that’s harsh and wouldn’t make that assessment of you, hence why I view your assessment as harsh. I’m a little utilitarian and think Richmond is leading edge in terms of its social initiatives and if you assess those overall, then it’s a big tick despite the pokies stain. No organisation or individual is perfect.
Second is fair - my view is a benevolent dictatorship drives the best short term outcomes - because they can get *smile* done in the benefit of the organisation they serve very quickly. Longer term though, the problem is if we get an idiot/despot next then the members will have no ability to force change.
The whole pokies thing is a definite issue. But I still reckon if we sell the pokie licences as opposed to not using them then we are effectively just deflecting blame. To really get out of pokies you need to stop getting revenue from them, and, take those pokies out of circulation. Anything else is hypocritical: we don't have pokies, but someone else now has our pokies, contributes nothing to fixing the problems.
As for Peggy, great Pres. The club and the team are now in a far better place than they were years ago. Hard to see what more she could have done.
Leaving while Benny Gale is still CEO is a good decision, having both leave at the same time would be too much, staggering the end of their time in each role is a far better transition.
DS
As for Peggy, great Pres. The club and the team are now in a far better place than they were years ago. Hard to see what more she could have done.
Leaving while Benny Gale is still CEO is a good decision, having both leave at the same time would be too much, staggering the end of their time in each role is a far better transition.
DS
Agree. I had my doubts about her but glad I was wrong. Let's hope we find someone just as good next.
It is going to take someone special to take over the presidential reigns once Peggy leaves. She has helped bring back the good times to Punt Road
Sports betting is pernicious, it is on peoples' phones, the odds are rammed down out throats all the time, it's like a mobile pokie in your pocket all the time.
Gambling exploits and manipulates the most vulnerable and often those with less money they can afford to lose.
I find it hard to distinguish the harm both do.
DS
That would require the tigers to continue paying the licensing fee for the poker machines forever.
Very true, look at Singapore for example. The key word is benevolent.
Let me state that I hate pokies with a passion, and I understand a number of the points you make with regard to the insidious modus operandi of pokies as a form of gambling. However, it is shortsighted to believe that they are any worse than sports betting or do less harm.
Between the two, in terms of dollars spent on total gambling, pokies win hands down. That is not in dispute. However, as an example, a much higher percentage of problem gamblers bet on sports than pokies. And the number is growing.
I am not looking to debate things, but anyone who wants to form an informed opinion on any form of gambling should take a look at the information on this website:
https://aifs.gov.au/agrc/
Right and my point is that doesn’t in my opinion taint the good work you would have done for that organisation. You had a choice to not work for those organisations and most likely at the cost of compromising your employment choices and standard of living. Richmond has a choice to compromise its footy spend and leave pokies immediatey or not conpromise it and try and sell them at a fair price. They seem very similar types of choices to me. (without knowing the inner workings of the board it would be hard to know if efforts have been made in this space and been unsuccessful or not)
But as has been said elsewhere, unless the pokies are removed from society then it seems it just is shifting the revenue to someone else in return for a capital payout.
pokies might be worse now in terms of societal damage but betting apps will be a much bigger problem, if it's not already. Kids and teens see all the sports bet advertising already, they all have smart phones. Its a huge potential market and the AFL and other sports are normalising this right now. You just have to look at the amount of advertising right now to get a sense of how much money is in this.
Pokies are small beans compared to this.
Pokies are small beans compared to this.
I too have been extremely disappointed by the club's poker machines stance.
Peggy has been great overall obviously. We would not have won 3 flags without her leadership especially the decision to back Hardwick.
However I really struggle to understand why a rich club like ours has not exited pokies like other clubs & unfortunately that does taint her a little in my eyes along Gale & the rest of our board. It's not too late to do the right thing Peggy. Exit pokies.
Peggy has been great overall obviously. We would not have won 3 flags without her leadership especially the decision to back Hardwick.
However I really struggle to understand why a rich club like ours has not exited pokies like other clubs & unfortunately that does taint her a little in my eyes along Gale & the rest of our board. It's not too late to do the right thing Peggy. Exit pokies.
So if not having pokies revenue meant zero flags I wonder where everyone would sit.
I get the angst with lack of visible movement but you wouldn’t think it would change the money being lost - and is really the branding of the club and what it stands for. (It is incongruous we support mental health etc and take money from gambling)
Maybe some people are ok losing because they rationalise the losses go to the club.
I get the angst with lack of visible movement but you wouldn’t think it would change the money being lost - and is really the branding of the club and what it stands for. (It is incongruous we support mental health etc and take money from gambling)
Maybe some people are ok losing because they rationalise the losses go to the club.
I'll take the 3 premierships, without thinking twice or any twinge of guilt.
yep, she brought in 6 year term limits, but served 9 herself. Funny that.
I know Peggy will be universally loved at the RFC because she oversaw 3 flags and the premiership drought ended. And i get that. But I will remember her as the person who ended democracy at the RFC.
Did Peggy ever stand for election? i don't think she did. i know she was drafted to the board 17 years ago unelected.
3 flags, a well-run club that is now a powerhouse again makes her and Benny's tenure a raving success. Not ending Pokies is a fail, but small in the scheme of things. Ending democracy? Perhaps, although also just a marker of a drift of the professionalisation of AFL clubs.
