sheesh i am talking english im sure i am. i cant work out what is so hard to understand about geelongs tall stocks last yr.Broadsword95 said:"Proven" - get real. "Geelong won the premiership because they had 16 talls, 12 of good AFL standard. FACT." Yep, that must have been it. That must have been the main reason.
That said, I have major doubts over our ruck stocks. Elsewhere I think that we're well enough catered for. I don't agree that so many talls are needed, and I'm dubious as to Geelong having 12 talls of good AFL standard. I suspect that simply because they're in a premiership winning team that makes their fringe players so? Or is it that you're lending them that ability to try and make a point?
You love the image don't you? The cynical wise guy who no one listens to, cast aside by naive others doomed to repeat the same mistakes. Ah well, each to their own is it?
n ablett c gairdner t harley m egan s king m blake t hawkins a mackie d milburn c mooney b ottens. h playfair m scarlett. a blind man would agree they had depth. anyone of these players would have got a game if injury struck. all of them would walk into our team atm.i make that 13 talls ready to go nearly all of them played a significant role or contributed to geelongs season what part of that is hard to understand. on top of that they had grima lonergan west spencer and you could throw in rooke and corey if need be. thats a total of 19 talls in their system.
geelong go into 2008 without n ablettretired. c gairdner let go h playfair letgo s king letgo all three because of salary cap pressure all 3 were snaffled up by other clubs. they delisted spencer thats 5 talls gone in one go yet they wont miss a beat and why is that. because they built up some depth. if that were us we would be in all sorts of trouble.
all im saying is you need roughly 12 talls on your list who can step up and play seniors at a decent level. most of the better clubs have this.you also need to have players in various modes of development.
carlton are attempting to get depth and a stockpile of 10 12 ready to go talls by overstocking on talls. atm they have 19 last yr they had 22 23. they will get it down to about 16. when they do im sure they are hoping for the kind of depth that geelong had this yr.yet richmond people bag carlton for the process they are going thru. all i am advocating is a process a plan if you like to build up our tall stocks and more importantly build depth..
most clubs go thru this process why are we different. we have 14 talls atm and the majority are speculative. a good percentage are bound to fail it happens at all clubs.anyone who thinks we have enough talls are kidding themselves. i personally believe we could do with another 6 or so.a couple of early picks a couple of mid picks and a couple of late or rookie picks.its how you build depth its how you go about not putting all your eggs in to few baskets.
for the life of me i cant understand how people cant see what needs to be done and why people get upset when i suggest what needs doing.
geelong won a premiership because they had cover and depth right across the park.yes a well rounded list not because of your facetios suggestion of they had 16 talls what a silly comment it wasnt even sarcastic just stupid. developing plenty of talls is just part of it. developing talls is the first part of any rebuild because of the simple fact they take much longer to develop than other types.
jeez you even criticise because i dare use geelong as an example arent we supposed to be following the geelong model.go look at wce for yourself or port they all have had lots of talls go thru their systems. hawthorn hve concentrated on talls first and smalls second.
anyway enough bickering with you you obviously cant grasp what im saying or refuse to so like i suggested before if you dont like what i post just dont read the posts. simple really.
anyway go ahead criticse all you like i know when im right.you also go mas about the constant negativity its constant because the same mistakes are made over and over a lot of the time by the same people.
finally when one puts his nose into a debate and sprouts of at the moth like the above post well of course you are going to get a like reply. im actually dirty on myself i should have just ignored such a post it didnt deserve a reply oh well we live and learn.Broadsword95 said:Go play Fantasy Football if you expect that sort of rubbish. All seems so easy when you get your crayons out and scribble on a piece of paper. You harp on about list management, so you can't lose can you? You've got history on your side, and a coach and his team that are half way through a rebuilding process that can't yet be fully judged. Seems to me that you're out to win arguments more than anything else.