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Pick 29: Shai Bolton

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Some massive undervaluing of Bartlett’s speed, skill, reading of the play, ball winning ability, versatility, resilience and endurance.
You could put KB of that era in a time machine and lob him into today’s game, no problem. Hart also.
If Shai gets anywhere near that level, we will be doing extremely well to have such a player.

I rate Shai highly and am rapt with the signing. Star. Time will tell if that turns into legend status (let alone an MCG statue!)
Anyone that thinks KB was slower than Bolton never saw him play. KB was electric fast -an amateur athlete than ran at Stawell. Only rates behind Martin as the greatest ever Tiger for mine. Bolton has an enormous gap to bridge to get him to that level.
 
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Greenie

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Shai faster, more elusive, the better mark and the better at handball!
Lots of great commentary on the comparison including yours Momentai. Just 1 comment though - KB was super fast and ran in Pro Gifts. Could go all day. Very elusive too although probably not in Shai's league there.
 
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I well remember KB running past me in Flinders Street station to catch the train up to Richmond for training.
He regularly flew by with that wispy hair flowing, AND that ever present gladstone bag:LOL:
 
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momentai

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I well remember KB running past me in Flinders Street station to catch the train up to Richmond for training.
He regularly flew by with that wispy hair flowing, AND that ever present gladstone bag:LOL:
Well there are clearly differences of opinion here and rating the level of skill of players of different eras can only ever be an opinion.

I saw Hart and KB in both the 67 and 69 Grand finals. Both were sensational.
And Dusty in 17 and 19, and Shai in 19 only.

Feel fortunate that we have had all 4.
 
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craig

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Well there are clearly differences of opinion here and rating the level of skill of players of different eras can only ever be an opinion.

I saw Hart and KB in both the 67 and 69 Grand finals. Both were sensational.
And Dusty in 17 and 19, and Shai in 19 only.

Feel fortunate that we have had all 4.
Dont forget Freamey in the 1980 GF,!! Dead set swung the momentum when he came on !! :))
 
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momentai

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Anyone that thinks KB was slower than Bolton never saw him play. KB was electric fast -an amateur athlete than ran at Stawell. Only rates behind Martin as the greatest ever Tiger for mine. Bolton has an enormous gap to bridge to get him to that level.
I had the pleasure of seeing a lot of the great KB.
We have access to the speed and agility levels achieved by Shai and it would be interesting to be able to compare those with KB, but I expect they don’t exist.

Does any one know?
 

Tigertough1974

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Very pleased for RFC and Shai, lets hope they keep him in the Martin role and with Dusty back alternate the both of them, this should be Shai's position going forward as he is very good at clearances and up forward.

Very grateful to have him for another 5 years, what a get in the second rd of drafting...
 
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Dont Argue

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Shai certainly has had his problems but just a loss of confidence. Temporary only!
Shai’s inaccuracy has more to do with ball drop technique than confidence.
I also notice he tends to rush the snap where if he took the one extra step to balance, he’d have more control of the ball.
Might be travelling too fast for his own good.


*NB KB was a magnificent kick for goal from all angles.
Shai will never get close to that ability
 

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Well there are clearly differences of opinion here and rating the level of skill of players of different eras can only ever be an opinion.

I saw Hart and KB in both the 67 and 69 Grand finals. Both were sensational.
And Dusty in 17 and 19, and Shai in 19 only.

Feel fortunate that we have had all 4.
Geez Mo , you're no spring chicken :oops:

I was at the '67 2nd semi V Blues as a 7 yo
 
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RoarEmotion

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Shai’s inaccuracy has more to do with ball drop technique than confidence.
I also notice he tends to rush the snap where if he took the one extra step to balance, he’d have more control of the ball.
Might be travelling too fast for his own good.


*NB KB was a magnificent kick for goal from all angles.
Shai will never get close to that ability
Shai must dwarf kbs goal assist metrics though. Goals created a much better metric and the stuff shai does leads to high quality scoring opportunities for the team.
 

Tigertough1974

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Anyone know who Shai and Daniels manager is now? Carr bent us over for Dusty although he was worth it, both Shai & DR leave the wig one and both sign long term contracts which seem to be bargains, magnificent.
 

Dont Argue

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Shai must dwarf kbs goal assist metrics though. Goals created a much better metric and the stuff shai does leads to high quality scoring opportunities for the team.
That stat wasn’t invented when KB played.
Check out how many goals he kicked playing as a pure rover.
He’s a legend of the game for good reason
 
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RoarEmotion

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That stat wasn’t invented when KB played.
Check out how many goals he kicked playing as a pure rover.
He’s a legend of the game for good reason
He was a genius for sure. He was also known as hungry for a reason.

Metrics that show how well a player generates offense/defence for a team would be very difficult to generate - and we still don’t really have them.

Basketball you can see how a team does with / without a player on the floor and only five players - tells you about offence and defensive impact.
 
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eZyT

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Great xmas pressie thanks $hai and rfc

Astonishing that we know who 75% of our starting midfield

In 2028 will be, and all under 30.

Our window is basically open for another five years imo

When it should really be closed for 10
 
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spook

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KB was a better kick for goal.
Shai’s inaccuracy has more to do with ball drop technique than confidence.
I also notice he tends to rush the snap where if he took the one extra step to balance, he’d have more control of the ball.
Might be travelling too fast for his own good.


*NB KB was a magnificent kick for goal from all angles.
Shai will never get close to that ability
KB kicked 778.781
Shai has 100.89
 
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