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player payments

tiger6969

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Apr 15, 2007
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What is a person, individual or club prepared to pay a player when you know he will be a superstar in the future or already is a superstar, and where does that place the less financial clubs in the compitition? ( Where do you draw the line )
 
tiger6969 said:
What is a person, individual or club prepared to pay a player when you know he will be a superstar in the future or already is a superstar, and where does that place the less financial clubs in the compitition? ( Where do you draw the line )

It's a very good point. Just as every player is tradeable for the right price, there is an upper limit for what you will pay for someone. In Judd's case I think whoever takes him will pay above the odds (both tradewise and salary wise). The difference in salaries paid between rich clubs and poorest clubs is not that much due to the minimum payment schedule. I think for example, Richmond pay 94% compared to the maximum 100%. 6% of whatever the salary cap is atm (around $7mill?) would amount to the salary maybe 1 above average player.
 
http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,21598,22445034-5005401,00.html

This is an interesting article showing how the crunch for Geelong is at the end of 2008 when a number of their top players, quite a few in the 23-24yo range are up for contract renewals. It's a tough position, having to squeeze in all your players in a top team let alone having a Judd in your team for well over $1mill a year. Young players can demand double and triple their salaries 2-3 years down the track if they prove themselves. As a young side (without counting any chickens) you have to be wary of that and think in advance.
 
GoodOne said:
http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,21598,22445034-5005401,00.html

This is an interesting article showing how the crunch for Geelong is at the end of 2008 when a number of their top players, quite a few in the 23-24yo range are up for contract renewals. It's a tough position, having to squeeze in all your players in a top team let alone having a Judd in your team for well over $1mill a year. Young players can demand double and triple their salaries 2-3 years down the track if they prove themselves. As a young side (without counting any chickens) you have to be wary of that and think in advance.

Yeah - it hurts at both ends. When your list is "in the premiership zone" like Geelong you start to have Salary Cap problems as players renew contracts - but it is just as hard as you re-build your list and have far more inexperienced players, yet you HAVE to pay 92.5% whether they deserve it yet or not! And that is only about $500K less than the club "in the premiership zone"!

Take to many good young players in just a couple of years and you have to pay over the odds very early in the payment cycle, and then risk not being able to give them all their worth in the years to come. That goes some way to explaining why clubs need to keep a certain number of very average experienced players on average salaries (about $150-200 is the statistical median) so they can be cut from the list as the Deledios of this world demand more money.

Just imagine for a minute the money the kids would have to be on if a club enacted the Claw or Craig principle to recruiting. A list of say 10 more kids (I've continually heard the calls for cutting that many additional players) on $60K base initially would have meant paying the likes of Newman, Tivvers etc considerbaly more just to get up to the 92.5%.

10 players wanting $50K more soon takes you from 92.5% to 100% of your Salary Cap. A $500K player on his own consumes 7.25% of the Salary Cap even though he is just 2.6% of the playing list (38). The recruitment of a Judd throws the accounting challenge way out of whack.

The list has to have a bit of all things - even a few overpaid duds - so that you can delist them as your kids mature and demand more. Have too many kids demanding more all at once and you are in big trouble cos you just don;t have enough players to delist..........................

Easy isn;t it...........................................
 
Great post pharace,

In summary that's the key, ensuring an even age spread of players amongst your list. Not easy to do but that's how the best teams like West Coast remain competitive for so long.