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Players Positions

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Aug 23, 2007
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Joel Bowden:since been moved to defence bowden become one of the most important players in the team, the way he sets up and directs play with his beautful and precise kicking, in years gone by he has been asked to do this aswell as man up on the oppositions key forward. with the development of other tall defenders in the main polak and thurfield, bowden should be freed up to play more attacking and be able to push further up the ground(which the forwards will like) also recruiting Mcmahon will put less pressure on bowden to deliver every week. Position: Half back flank

Nathan G. Brown: get back to full fitness no nigglimg problems is his first priority,secondly getting some match fitness and that killer goal sense back, just havin brown near the goals is a threat to any team and we need him to spend most of his time there say 70% forward -30% roaming.
Position: Forward pocket(70%) the rest james hirding! e.g. following the ball

Travis Casserly: same as brown get over the injuries then focus on improving, haven't seen much of him, but ones he gets some size(muscle) on him he could be a weapon moving forward A grade kicking on him
Position: Half back flank/wing

Andrew Collins:keep letting this young man develop at coburg, in the midfield nowhere else, he is an in and under type like foley just alot less muscle same football brain though.
Position: Rover

Daniel Connors+Trent Cotchin: these two players are very similar, both are midfielders with class and game to match, they will both be very damaging players, they both need to work on endurance so they can run allday and burn off taggers which they will get in a few years.
Positon: rover/ruck rover/centre

Mark Coughlan: again shake the injuries and then get the game time, hopefully will get back to his 2003 form and back to being in of the games elite, is also a leader and that is what our young midfielders desperately need
Position: half forward, half midfield rotation by end of year midfield only

Brett Deledio: as much as i want deledio to become a permant and dominant midfielder until he can shake the taggers he will need to push forward and become a forward threat and put the pressure back on the opposition
Positon: Centre(for centre bounces) come half forward

Shane Edwards:this kid has so much skill and desire to successed that he could become anything, i see a young ben cousins(on field only), startin as a half forward but when he gets the size on him he will become a superstar onballer and run and run till he can't no more like cousins did.
Position: Half forward and casual onball rotation

Nathan Foley: Nathan Foley say no more, can improve on last season by improving endurance to go all day, to become more of a forward threat by kicking more goals and by not getting a big head from last seasons.
Position: Rover

Angus Graham: Graham is a man mountain, has the physcal features just needs to get the footy side going, skillswise kicking and tapping, get a bigger engine and more aggresive, protect the onballers by tackling and bumping the opposition hard they'll soon learn to take him serious.
Position: Ruckman

Cleve Hughes:has the skills just needs the dedication to work harder on his game, play him at centre half forward for coburg and tell him to keep presenting and running and not to stop running till the end of the game, has vice like hands when marking and accurate kicking, towards the end of the quarters swarp to full forward and attack every ball that comes his way.
Position: Centre half forward

Daniel Jackson:showed us toward the end of last year he is a great attacking tagger, he tacks players out of the game while getting his own ball. get more physical tackle players to the ground make them earn every touch.
Position: Tagger
Dean Polo:is very similar to jackson but can also play as a more attacking opption
Position: Tagger/rover

Jake King:he attackes every ball like a bullterrier and gives 100% everytime, could improve his game by..... getting tall!!! he doesn't have much wrong, is a real team player.
Position: Back pocket
Luke McGuane:honest hard working backman, needs to improve body strength and kicking, he attackes the ball well but turns it over when he kicks alot,
Position: Third tall defender Back flank/pocket

Jordan McMahon:it'll be interesting how he goes, i for one like the idea of getting him, is an attacking defender with great skills is a bit outside but makes up for it with quick and accurate ball movement will help bowden alot.
Position: Back flank

Danny Meyer+Mitch Morton:Both players have awesome skills, you know they will either kick goals or pick out a player when they have it, but its the getting it part they struggle with, they need to lift their work rates and attack the ball hard and they could become the next nathan browns.
Positions: Forward pocket/half forward/wing
Kelvin Moore:

Chris Newman+Andrew Raines: people talk about moving these player to the midfielder but i like them where they are in defence, they have a good understanding of each other and both read the play well and put their bodies on the line.
Positions: Back pocket

Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls:he is starting to look like a footballer has put on some muscle but hopefully hasn't lost that speed and agailty, is a real utility back midfield wing, i like him on the wing helping back and push forward hard and fast with accuracy, needs to improve kicking.
Position: Wing

Adam Pattison+Dean Putt:both are tall forwards who can releave for a resting ruckman or even ruck in the forward50, both have big engines but pattison could improve his speed off the mark, while pattison is a few years ahead devevloped wise of putt both will be challenging for the same position.
Position: Forward come ruckmen

Kayne Pettifer: needs to continue his recent form, leads up the ground well and doubles back just as quick, kicks important goals but needs to become a bit more consistent, needs to attack the ball alot harder to, put his body on the line.
Position: Half forward

Graham Polak: start him at centre half back, teach him to play man on man and spoil when behind, peels off well when getting in front off the full forward, can be used in an Adam Hunter type role by being swung forward at the end of of quarters to kick a couple of goals and trouble small defences.
Position: Center half back(80%) swing forward(20%)

Alex Rance: a future centre half back needs time to get fitness and strength to be up to afl level, will eventually take over from Polak, will take the gorilla forwards but will also be an offensive weapon when we have the ball.
Position: Centre half back

Matthew Richardson:Its RICHO the heart of the football club
Position: Forward

Jack Riewoldt+David Goudis: Both are tall hit up type half forwards/centre half forwards who continually lead and give an options, they can also work back towards goals and kick a bag full, while i like them both as forwards Goudis could also be developed in to a full back with his quick speed off the mark.
Positions: Centre half forwards/half forwards, and full back

Jay Schulz: its up to him what he wants to do, be a footballer or not, when he brings his game is a very damaging full forward strong mark good shot on goal, just needs to keep working and hopefully the delivery into him will get better, if that fails try him at centre half back again...
Positions: Full forward

Troy Simmonds: hopefully gotten over his injuries and will be back to his all aussie form from 2006 as a dominant ruckman who picks up high numbers of possisions
Position: Ruckman

Richard Tambling:his confidence is down, needs to improve that and be confident in his own ability, is quick and agile and can get the ball out of packs has good skills, just needs to run and run and attack the ball and harass the opposion(tackle and pressure) when he doesn't have the ball.
Position: Ruck rover/half forward

Will Thursfield:gets some muscle to go with the skills and speed he has, is better suit to the athletic forwards that run alot, has good closing speed and is a good spoiler, could improve by peeling off his player and helping team mates more, but usually does his job.
Position: Full back

Shane Tuck:tucky needs to use his size to intimidate other midfielders he needs to get agressive and throw his weight around, hopefully like his old man he improves with age and exprience.
Position: Centre

Matthew White:
Greg Tivendale:
Kane Johnson:
Chris Hyde:
Cameron Howat:the last 5 i didn't really have much to say about or the rookies.

Your feedback and thoughts would be much appreciated....
 
Good job mate. Expressed your opinions and gave a good summation on the players. I hope they can improve and look forward to see how your calls went. Thanks for taking the time to do it.
 
the biggest "IF" structure wise is CHB and CHF.

have noted that you have Rance, Patto, Polak, Putt, Reiwoldt, Hughes as potentials. You could also throw Schulz in there and a long shot, JON.

Patto is a mystery. For mine he's too slow for CHF/CHB. His biggest weapon is his engine so i would say a roaming tall both forward and back, mainly back ala how Benny Gale was used late in his career. Get him to run his opponents off their feet. Come last quarter, the strategy will pay off. Rest him @ FF if need be. Plonk the ball on his head. If he furnishes into a ruckman (which i think Gus will end up doing well) then thats even better. A ruckman with a big engine is a dangerous weapon for any side.

In few years, maybe less, i have a feeling Rance will be our CHB. Just has all the tools from the limited vision i've seen. If so...

...he can take Polaks position as I think Polak is a forward. He's a marker not a spoiler. I hope in time he ends up settling up front where his marking ability will be a boon for our midfield looking for strong targets.

Hughes too is an interesting player. I havent written him off like many others on here, instead im willing to give the youngun some time to develop into his body before pounding him. Fitness and will power is where i'd like to see him get more vigorous. Just dont think he's agile enough for CHF. Is a straight lead for the ball player. With him in the side the forward system would have to be tweaked to allow him plenty of space to lead into.

Same strategy for Schulz too except i think he has more ability to take pack marks and screamers than Hughes. For this reason i think Schulz is more of a genuine CHF option than Hughes. Both have the same lack if imposition. If they can only grow another leg and believed they were a tad more indestructable they'd be alot more damaging.

Reiwoldt is a tall flanker for mine. Will eventually become the third tall type player. Thats not saying in anyway that he is ONLY a flanker as i think he will furnish into a dangerous forward scout type. He's an enigma. For someone tall like him, he can get quite high off the ground and also is an uncanny reader of play and is always thinking and doing his best to "toy" with his opponents. He has'nt yet but once he gets up to AFL speed, i think he's gonna be a great annoyance for many oppositions.

Putt i have no idea. From his highlights i notice he's a very tall and very agile marking forward type but will reserve my opinion on him till i see more of him over the preseason.

JON is another "interesting" player. These types of players are only useful if they can mange to put it all together unlike workers like Newmo and Hyde who just grind away without doing anything spectacular (although newmo's goal against freo was speeeeecial!). IF and thats a big IF, JON can put it all together he could be useful all over the ground. Lets hope so.

the one player i'd like to also mention is Gourdis. This lad has a ton of potential but i just cannot say anything as again have very little knowledge of him. He's a huge boy and to me has a frame not unlike our own Rolls Royce. Muscles on muscles especially around the lower limbs. Please dont tell me i said he was LIKE Roycie cause i know he definately isnt but as juniors, the proportions are similar. Looks to me like a powerful/explosive type player ala Lids and Cogs. Now if he sprouts well, he could definately become our CHF of the future but sheesh now im really throwing hope to the wind especially about a Preseason draft pick.

CHB???CHF??? what a conundrum.
 
Excellent positive post DD :clap

Agree with blx that CHF and CHB are our biggest dilemmas. I'm of the opinion/hope the long term solution is Deledio(CHF) and Rance(CHB). Based on his progress to date I believe Lids will be ready to assume the CHF role by end 2008. By this time hopefully we have also had a chance to see how Rance plays and assess what his potential is to play key position. One way may be for him to play CHB at Coburg when he is not being given a taste with the seniors.

Polak and Schulz each have huge question marks. Polak seems like a natural forward except he gets the yips in front of goal. Is not a bad defender but will never be a great one unless his man-on-man work improves considerably. Shulz needs to get more involved in a game but his skill set appears to be forward of 50 only. By end 2008 Schulz will either need to have become a viable CHF alternative or be gone. By the same time Polak will need to have improved heaps on his goalkicking and/or his defensive work on bigger opponents.
 
i agree with the last 2 comments about CHF and CHB, i think they are the 2 most important positions on the footy field and are probably 2 of the hardest ons to play.

CHF i think won't be covered by just one player, while someone like Hughes/Gourdis(in years to come) may start there i think having HFF's like riewoldt and pettifer beside them leading up the ground and being just as good marker, will not only be hard to match up but will give the players bring the ball forward alot more options and take the pressure off the one player earmarked to play CHF

CHB on the otherhand needs to firstly be able to beat his opponent and bring ball to ground/or mark it and then either turn defence into attack or get the ball to the "quarterbacks" in Bowden, McMahon etc etc. while i think Rance will fill this role it wont be for at least 2 years so we need to make do with Polak i guess.

thanks for your thoughts it is very much appreciated..
 
This season I'd like to see the players below in these positions.

Chris Newman
Centre. I think Newman has the ability to become a very good centreman. Need to utilise his foot skills re inside 50m.

Jack Riewoldt
HBF. I'd like to see Jack groomed as a defender. Start him as the third tall in defence. I think he has the makings of a CHB long term.

Richie Tambling
HBF. Used in much the same role as Andrew McLeod was early in his career. Would give us speed and drive from defence. Can also spend time in the midfield.

Graham Polak
CHF. Not accountable enough to be a key defender but has great hands. Would provide a genuine marking target for our midfielders.

Cleve Hughes
FF. Cleve is a lead and mark player but doesn't have the workrate to be a true CHF.
Keep him close to goals & play to his strengths even if it means asking him to dominate at Coburg first.

Andrew Raines
Wing. I reckon Rainsey would be right at home on the wing. He can take them on further up the ground where his kicking is less of a liability.
Can also go back and help out in defence when required.

Joel Bowden - CHB
Still our best bet in this position until the likes of Rance comes on. McGuane or Moore might also hopefully step into the breach.

Jay Schulz

FF. If it ain't there, then it's no where.

Danny Meyer
Wing. Play the kid in space and utilise his accurate boot into the forward line. Only concern is lack of speed in this position..

Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls
Wing. It's out here or nothing.

Daniel Jackson
Midfield/Tagger. Tough bloodnut who will ruffle some feathers.

Daniel Connors
HFF. Reminds me of Russell Robertson. Get him near the goals to work some magic.

Matthew Richardson -
HFF. Roving up to the wing. Get him out of the forward arc.

Brett Deledio
FF. Quick on the lead. Strong. Can kick a goal. Our next FF with occasional stints elsewhere.

Shane Edwards
Rover. Has the makings to be a top midfielder.
 
I agree with the thought of Deledio up forward. He'd be too quick for the large backmen and too tall and strong overhead for the speedsters. If he can kick goals he'll be of more benefit than playing in the midfield imo.

Concerning JON, I think he'll develop into a Michael Johnson (Freo) like player. He has good hands, is quick and I can see a definite mopping up role for him if he can get some confidence back. Imagine a loose defender who is able to win the ball in the air and also provide run.
 
Lonthalion said:
Concerning JON, I think he'll develop into a Michael Johnson (Freo) like player. He has good hands, is quick and I can see a definite mopping up role for him if he can get some confidence back. Imagine a loose defender who is able to win the ball in the air and also provide run.
Can't play defence unless his disposal improves significantly.
 
Polak is an interesting one for mine. His marking suggests CHF but his kicking for goal doesn't suggest forward at all. I accept that these days CHFs don't seem to kick a lot of goals, but he could let the side down at critical times.

His one on one accountability and lack of athleticism make him look vulnerable at the back. However, last year those marking mitts of his stopped a lot of opposition thrusts forward dead. Hate to say it, but lose man in defence looks about his only real option.
 
I find it intresting how poor kicks cant play backline but its ok to put them on the forward line where if you miss you give the ball straight back to the opposition an a poor kick in the midfield is just as costly I would imagine.

Poor kick is a poor kick,cant be hidden
 
Tigers of Old said:
Cleve Hughes
FF. Cleve is a lead and mark player but doesn't have the workrate to be a true CHF.
Keep him close to goals & play to his strengths even if it means asking him to dominate at Coburg first.
I actually think he could play as a roaming forward pocket similar to the way Chris Tarrant plays, only a much better kick for goal
 
ZeroGame said:
I actually think he could play as a roaming forward pocket similar to the way Chris Tarrant plays, only a much better kick for goal
Thats not without merit ZG,but Id say its pretty close to a leading up HF
 
True, but a modern day HF needs to effectively play as an extra midfielder, being a link man from defence and pushing up inside 50. Being a bigger guy, Hughes would be based around goal, but can push up towards the wing.
 
Nice work DD.

I think, however, that we need to be thinking fwd line post-Richo - which will probably be sooner rather than later. Maybe he is the heart the club, but building a fwd line around him isn't great for the development of the fwd line of the post-Richo 'premiership contender' years. I think this will be a big challenge for the coaching staff.

Perhaps ToO's idea of having Richo as a HFF has some merit.

[Bit harsh on Kel Moore by the way ;)]
 
Tigers of Old said:
This season I'd like to see the players below in these positions.

Chris Newman
Centre. I think Newman has the ability to become a very good centreman. Need to utilise his foot skills re inside 50m.

Jack Riewoldt
HBF. I'd like to see Jack groomed as a defender. Start him as the third tall in defence. I think he has the makings of a CHB long term.

Richie Tambling
HBF. Used in much the same role as Andrew McLeod was early in his career. Would give us speed and drive from defence. Can also spend time in the midfield.

Graham Polak
CHF. Not accountable enough to be a key defender but has great hands. Would provide a genuine marking target for our midfielders.

Cleve Hughes
FF. Cleve is a lead and mark player but doesn't have the workrate to be a true CHF.
Keep him close to goals & play to his strengths even if it means asking him to dominate at Coburg first.

Andrew Raines
Wing. I reckon Rainsey would be right at home on the wing. He can take them on further up the ground where his kicking is less of a liability.
Can also go back and help out in defence when required.

Joel Bowden - CHB
Still our best bet in this position until the likes of Rance comes on. McGuane or Moore might also hopefully step into the breach.

Jay Schulz

FF. If it ain't there, then it's no where.

Danny Meyer
Wing. Play the kid in space and utilise his accurate boot into the forward line. Only concern is lack of speed in this position..

Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls
Wing. It's out here or nothing.

Daniel Jackson
Midfield/Tagger. Tough bloodnut who will ruffle some feathers.

Daniel Connors
HFF. Reminds me of Russell Robertson. Get him near the goals to work some magic.

Matthew Richardson -
HFF. Roving up to the wing. Get him out of the forward arc.

Brett Deledio
FF. Quick on the lead. Strong. Can kick a goal. Our next FF with occasional stints elsewhere.

Shane Edwards
Rover. Has the makings to be a top midfielder.

Fair post TOOheys & leysy agrees with the majority.

Only issue is Newman, he just doesn't have the "in close" skills to make it in the centre.
Have said for a long time his best spot will end up on the wing. He has the one-on-one ability, endurance & kicking skills that suits this role.