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Polak to Rookie List

leonbaker said:
Yes Rama was out of contract. The choice was delist, recontract - or try for the new mature age Rookie list. Most of the clubs in the AFL supported our bid.

Polak is still contracted - the place for him is the LTIPL - then you can promote one of your own rookies

What the Tigers want to do is tear up his existing contract and give him another one as a rookie. I don't think its ever been done that a player has been transferred from the senior list to the rookie list.

I'm still hopeful our girlie x-tiger coach will grow some ballz and pick Cousins with our ps pick instead of Sipworth.

Not sure whether they want to tear up his contract at all Leon. If Polak is able to be rookied his contract is outside the salary cap anyway.
 
DirtyDogTiger said:
what time will the afl meeting conclude?
No idea but I bet about half a million journos will be hovering like blowies over a steamer, desperate for a bit of room and a chance to land.
 
TigerMasochist said:
No idea but I bet about half a million journos will be hovering like blowies over a steamer, desperate for a bit of room and a chance to land.

:hihi

Ahhh, how true!!
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that the difference between the LTIL and Rookie list is that Polak can play at lower levels as a rookie, but not if on the LTIL. He needs to be elevated of the LTIL before he can play even at Coburg. Correct?

If true, this is a huge difference (between rookie and LTIL) from the viewpoint of Polaks recovery.

Polak would need to play a considerable amount of footy at a lower level to assess if he can play footy, let alone senior footy. A brain injury is a special case, and recovery cannot be compared to a physical injury such as a knee or ankle, where more straight fwd forms of assessment are possible.

For this reason, if the RFC are forced to place him on the LTIL, I doubt he would ever get the chance to play footy again. I imagine Polak and the RFC know this.

I hope the AFL take this into consideration.
 
Mr Pumblechook said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that the difference between the LTIL and Rookie list is that Polak can play at lower levels as a rookie, but not if on the LTIL. He needs to be elevated of the LTIL before he can play even at Coburg. Correct?

If true, this is a huge difference (between rookie and LTIL) from the viewpoint of Polaks recovery.

Polak would need to play a considerable amount of footy at a lower level to assess if he can play footy, let alone senior footy. A brain injury is a special case, and recovery cannot be compared to a physical injury such as a knee or ankle, where more straight fwd forms of assessment are possible.

For this reason, if the RFC are forced to place him on the LTIL, I doubt he would ever get the chance to play footy again. I imagine Polak and the RFC know this.

I hope the AFL take this into consideration.

Exactly, and thats exactly why Polak supports the move to rookie him so it allows him to slowly get back to playing footy etc..

If I hear the two idiots that are currently on SEN crap on about the LTIL any more I'll throw the radio out the window. Not to mention continually comparing Polaks injury to someone doing their knee in a game of footy. ::)
 
Just goes to show how moronic people in radio can be, do a little research, it isn't hard with the internet these days.

In ter net.
 
I'm sure this point would have been made before, and so apologise for doing so again.

Rama was out of contract. Had the AFL not changed the rules for him he would have been delisted. So the decision to allow him to be rookied was largely for Rama's benefit; the club would get an additional player on the list regardless.

Polak is already contracted. He will stay on the list irrespective of the decision of the AFL. So the decision to rookie him will be for the benefit of the club, not the player, as the club will be allowed to list an extra player.

This is not about Polak in any way shape or form. It is about getting Cousins for 'free'.
 
Tex said:
I'm sure this point would have been made before, and so apologise for doing so again.

Rama was out of contract. Had the AFL not changed the rules for him he would have been delisted. So the decision to allow him to be rookied was largely for Rama's benefit; the club would get an additional player on the list regardless.

Essendon could have re-signed Rama and kept him on the list, LTIL if they wanted too. Instead they asked for a special case ruling to support the player while not penalising the club for doing so. Pretty much the same reason we've made our application to the AFL.
 
Baloo said:
Essendon could have re-signed Rama and kept him on the list, LTIL if they wanted too. Instead they asked for a special case ruling to support the player while not penalising the club for doing so. Pretty much the same reason we've made our application to the AFL.

But Esendon would not have re-signed him, which is the point. They wanted to look after him but not if it cost them a player. So they went to the AFL and got a 'special' exemption.

Richmond are 'stuck' with Polaks contract regardless. There is no choice.

So big difference - Rama would have lost his spot, while Polak will keep his.

Again, this is all about Cousins, not Polak. Whether Polak's spot is on the list proper or the rookie list he gets his money and things remain the same. It is only Cousins situation that will change.
 
Tex said:
I'm sure this point would have been made before, and so apologise for doing so again.

Rama was out of contract. Had the AFL not changed the rules for him he would have been delisted. So the decision to allow him to be rookied was largely for Rama's benefit; the club would get an additional player on the list regardless.

Polak is already contracted. He will stay on the list irrespective of the decision of the AFL. So the decision to rookie him will be for the benefit of the club, not the player, as the club will be allowed to list an extra player.

This is not about Polak in any way shape or form. It is about getting Cousins for 'free'.

No. Please read my above post. If Polak is on the LTIL - he can't play anywhere. If he is a rookie - he can. That will greatly aid his recovery - being able to play at a lower level. His situation is different to Rama, but given the nature of a brain injury, unprecedented all the same, and hence the special request the AFL.

Tex said:
Again, this is all about Cousins, not Polak. Whether Polak's spot is on the list proper or the rookie list he gets his money and things remain the same. It is only Cousins situation that will change.

Again no - see above.