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Yeah spot on there General understand what your getting at there, but he is paid the big bucks to know, i am just a punter with an opinion whether i am right or wrong is not important nor of any consequence to the club as is the same for all.

Of course i have attacked the recruiting, christ who on this site hasnt gone our recruiting or individual players here at some point, deservingly so too as the past 10 years our recruiting has on the whole been very poor and these PROS get paid money to do the very best they can and ours over the journey simply have not.
 
craig said:
Yeah spot on there General understand what your getting at there, but he is paid the big bucks to know, i am just a punter with an opinion whether i am right or wrong is not important nor of any consequence to the club as is the same for all.

Of course i have attacked the recruiting, christ who on this site hasnt gone our recruiting or individual players here at some point, deservingly so too as the past 10 years our recruiting has on the whole been very poor and these PROS get paid money to do the very best they can and ours over the journey simply have not.
Good onya craig, that's what this forum is for :clap.

What a boring place it would be if we all had the same opinion about everything.
 
What this shows is how ruthless and professional a club like Port Adelaide is. They have quickly assessed a kid drafted 2 years ago, made a call on him and quickly acted.

In the past RFC would keep the player in question on the list for too long before making the hard call.

The key to recruitment and list management is to (a) be able to spot talent and potential, and (b) be able to assess, in the shortest possible time, whether the player is making the required level of progress so that a decision can be made whether to cut the player to make room for another kid. RFC have been poor in both (a) and (b) in the past, but seem to be improving.
 
craig said:
i am just a punter with an opinion,
whether i am right or wrong is not important
nor of any consequence to the club
as is the same for all.

This might make a wonderful epitaph some day - hopefully though, not for a long long time craigy ;) ;D
 
Harry said:
What this shows is how ruthless and professional a club like Port Adelaide is.  They have quickly assessed a kid drafted 2 years ago, made a call on him and quickly acted.

In the past RFC would keep the player in question on the list for too long before making the hard call. 

The key to recruitment and list management is to (a) be able to spot talent and potential, and (b) be able to assess, in the shortest possible time, whether the player is making the required level of progress so that a decision can be made whether to cut the player to make room for another kid.  RFC have been poor in both (a) and (b) in the past, but seem to be improving.

As much as I hate the process, the logic is with your statement above.  The fewer draftees you have the less chance you have of polishing a gem.

An Adam Goodes at pick 40 something, say every second year (have 8 picks each year - that's a one in 16 chance) has got to be a good way to developing a premiership team.  OK, you lose a couple of serviceable players that go to other clubs by cutting some kids early - but in part, the draft is a numbers game (yeah some judgement helps too - just ask Mr B :o).

Selecting raw 17 year olds, and with few exceptions, they are yet to prove they are much different from one another in so far as the AFL big league is concerned - just ask craigy (sorry mate!) ;D
 
That's why cutting Roach was the correct call. A similar call needs to be made on Jackson and Moore. They have been in the system for a while and considering the level of injuries they really haven't shown much. This would open up 2 more places on the list.
 
Harry said:
What this shows is how ruthless and professional a club like Port Adelaide is.  They have quickly assessed a kid drafted 2 years ago, made a call on him and quickly acted.

In the past RFC would keep the player in question on the list for too long before making the hard call. 

The key to recruitment and list management is to (a) be able to spot talent and potential, and (b) be able to assess, in the shortest possible time, whether the player is making the required level of progress so that a decision can be made whether to cut the player to make room for another kid.  RFC have been poor in both (a) and (b) in the past, but seem to be improving.

good post, agree a lot.

Craigy craigy, let that be a lesson to you to not go in quite as hard when talking 17 y.o. kids.

Big contrast to Craws post when we drafted Weller instead of Michael Johnson.  That post was a pisser, Craw was very understated and said something like 'what a wierd pick, I would have drafted MJ'.  Mirror image posts, one reserved and right, the other puffy-chested and w.r.o.n.g.
 
craig there is a difference between putting your head on the line and shooting your mouth off. don't try and spin doctor your way out of it if you have put your foot in your mouth be man enough to admit it.
making yourself out to have noble intentions when you assasinate some poor players career is just pathetic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Moral of the story.........don't jump at shadows.......and certainly don't take the rants of certain posters seriously. ;)

Young Polo is a beauty isn't he...... :)
 
How do we know that Port won't put Eckermann on the rookie list ? In other words is it 100% certain that its all over for him yet ?
 
i must admit i to wanted eckerman but not at pick 20 i wanted a tall kid called chad gibson at 20. i still believe gibson was the way to go at 20 and if we wanted polo we could have taken him at 36 as i was at the time sure he would last to at least then i still believe it. i think i wanted eckerman at 36 or 52.
i have said this before and i will say it again congratulations greg miller for getting one right i suppose if you use enough picks you have to get one right every now and then.
 
Harry said:
What this shows is how ruthless and professional a club like Port Adelaide is.  They have quickly assessed a kid drafted 2 years ago, made a call on him and quickly acted.

In the past RFC would keep the player in question on the list for too long before making the hard call. 

The key to recruitment and list management is to (a) be able to spot talent and potential, and (b) be able to assess, in the shortest possible time, whether the player is making the required level of progress so that a decision can be made whether to cut the player to make room for another kid.  RFC have been poor in both (a) and (b) in the past, but seem to be improving.
spot on again harry. also i agree theres been improvement in category a but im not so sure about b.in fact i would say we are terrible.
 
Hayfever said:
Would much rather be proved wrong by a Polo or Raines reversal than the other way around :o

i'm not a religious person but amen to that!

Harry said:
What this shows is how ruthless and professional a club like Port Adelaide is.  They have quickly assessed a kid drafted 2 years ago, made a call on him and quickly acted.

In the past RFC would keep the player in question on the list for too long before making the hard call. 

The key to recruitment and list management is to (a) be able to spot talent and potential, and (b) be able to assess, in the shortest possible time, whether the player is making the required level of progress so that a decision can be made whether to cut the player to make room for another kid.  RFC have been poor in both (a) and (b) in the past, but seem to be improving.

excellent post harry. as one previous poster said, this is what we've done to roachy. so tezza and gm is awake to it
 
the claw said:
Harry said:
What this shows is how ruthless and professional a club like Port Adelaide is.  They have quickly assessed a kid drafted 2 years ago, made a call on him and quickly acted.

In the past RFC would keep the player in question on the list for too long before making the hard call. 

The key to recruitment and list management is to (a) be able to spot talent and potential, and (b) be able to assess, in the shortest possible time, whether the player is making the required level of progress so that a decision can be made whether to cut the player to make room for another kid.  RFC have been poor in both (a) and (b) in the past, but seem to be improving.
spot on again harry. also i agree theres been improvement in category a but im not so sure about b.in fact i would say we are terrible.

Harry you star! turnover is critical.

For every Tuck that gets delisted and comes good there is also an Ednie, Haynes, Poyaz, Homewood, Hollands, Hills, Greig, White (Jammes), Proctor, Plapp, Ramsey, Steinfort, Donati....................get the picture.

The odds of a Moore, Jackson, Roach with three years in the system of doing a Tuck are probably longer than your average draft pick. Take a risk let them go and head to the barrell for new draft picks/rookies the odds are much better, specially as you get 3 rookies for the price of 1 fourth year battler.
 
Bill James said:
the claw said:
Harry said:
What this shows is how ruthless and professional a club like Port Adelaide is.  They have quickly assessed a kid drafted 2 years ago, made a call on him and quickly acted.

In the past RFC would keep the player in question on the list for too long before making the hard call. 

The key to recruitment and list management is to (a) be able to spot talent and potential, and (b) be able to assess, in the shortest possible time, whether the player is making the required level of progress so that a decision can be made whether to cut the player to make room for another kid.  RFC have been poor in both (a) and (b) in the past, but seem to be improving.
spot on again harry. also i agree theres been improvement in category a but im not so sure about b.in fact i would say we are terrible.

Harry you star!  turnover is critical.

For every Tuck that gets delisted and comes good there is also an Ednie, Haynes, Poyaz, Homewood, Hollands, Hills, Greig, White (Jammes), Proctor, Plapp, Ramsey, Steinfort, Donati....................get the picture.

The odds of a  Moore, Jackson, Roach with three years in the system of doing a Tuck are probably longer than your average draft pick. Take a risk let them go and head to the barrell for new draft picks/rookies the odds are much better, specially as you get 3 rookies for the price of 1 fourth year battler. 

Hooray darksiders meet brigthsiders and agree all around. Great posts.