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Prestia !!

Tigerflag2008 said:
I can't compliment his game, but we do seem more competitive in the midfield when he plays.

He draws a real opponent, Tf08. Sometimes two or three at once. He's taking heat. Unfortunately there's not enough of anything else ATM. Except bungling.
 
Prestia' s game ATM is well below his capabilities but what he does do is get to dangerous spots and often. His reading of the play is elite. He may have a poor disposal at times (which will improve with fitness/confidence) BUT, he covers a lot of ground effortlessly. Can't see it on TV but at the ground he's worth tracking.
 
The Mole said:
Prestia' s game ATM is well below his capabilities but what he does do is get to dangerous spots and often. His reading of the play is elite. He may have a poor disposal at times (which will improve with fitness/confidence) BUT, he covers a lot of ground effortlessly. Can't see it on TV but at the ground he's worth tracking.

Trouble is Mole his disposal efficiency is trending downwards so your claim it will improve with fitness and confidence doesn't add up.
 
The Mole said:
Prestia' s game ATM is well below his capabilities but what he does do is get to dangerous spots and often. His reading of the play is elite. He may have a poor disposal at times (which will improve with fitness/confidence) BUT, he covers a lot of ground effortlessly. Can't see it on TV but at the ground he's worth tracking.

Yep I can clearly see him jogging behind his opponent all over the ground
 
Will be interesting...? to see how Will Brodie goes this weekend for the Suns.
 
Nothing i've seen from Prestia makes me glad we got him. Caddy not far behind although Caddy is not quite the strain on the salary.
 
The Mole said:
Prestia' s game ATM is well below his capabilities but what he does do is get to dangerous spots and often. His reading of the play is elite. He may have a poor disposal at times (which will improve with fitness/confidence) BUT, he covers a lot of ground effortlessly. Can't see it on TV but at the ground he's worth tracking.
Why is his fitness down? Club says There's nothing wrong with his knee and he's had a nice 2 week break to rest his "hamstring", he's had an individual training program over pre season.....
 
K3 said:
Will be interesting...? to see how Will Brodie goes this weekend for the Suns.

Will be watching with great interest, I hope both Clarke & Hartley will also be paying attention.
 
bullus_hit said:
Will be watching with great interest, I hope both Clarke & Hartley will also be paying attention.
Hartley,Gale & Tichardson are the culprits in the Prestia deal.
Richardson has finally been move sideways to negotiating player contracts. A good move considering he was way out of his depth in charge of a football department.
Meanwhile Gale & Harltley retain their respective positions.
Why, you may ask?
Well at Richmond there is zero accountability, no matter how badly you perform.
Right Benny?
 
asian tetley said:
Hartley,Gale & Tichardson are the culprits in the Prestia deal.
Richardson has finally been move sideways to negotiating player contracts. A good move considering he was way out of his depth in charge of a football department.
Meanwhile Gale & Harltley retain their respective positions.
Why, you may ask?
Well at Richmond there is zero accountability, no matter how badly you perform.
Right Benny?

I mentioned Clarke because he wanted Scrimshaw, not saying Jack will be a bust but he comes with a stack of question marks, Gold Coast already have him on a modified program. Just for the record, a beep test in the 12's is very difficult to claw back, particularly if the footballer in question is being mooted as an onballer. Scrimshaw doesn't have express pace either so the rebounding role doesn't fit the bill. If Clarke honestly believes Scrimshaw is a better prospect than Brodie then he would need to convince me he had a specific role in the premiership formula. At the moment I'm struggling to see it.
 
yandb said:
Trouble is Mole his disposal efficiency is trending downwards so your claim it will improve with fitness and confidence doesn't add up.
He had a very interrupted preseason and an interrupted season so far. We may not see the best of him this year. I suspect he is almost trying too hard. I will watch him very closely tomorrow night. I would assign him to run with Heppell but I'm no coach.
 
The Mole said:
He had a very interrupted preseason and an interrupted season so far. We may not see the best of him this year. I suspect he is almost trying too hard. I will watch him very closely tomorrow night. I would assign him to run with Heppell but I'm no coach.

The main problem with the Prestia advocates is because he is performing way under expectations the reasons and excuses are being trotted out.

I say reasons and excuses because reasons are genuine, excuses are supposition but are trotted out to justify a narrative.

Yes Prestia had an operation last July and was in for a minor cleanout.

Which gave him 4 months to recover before he reached Richmond but he hadn't fully recovered and was still on a modified program as the season commenced. (and still may be on the modified program.)

His Disposal efficiency trended downwards up until the hamstring injury.

Troting out phrases such as ' I suspect he is almost trying too hard' are just excuses.

Maybe his disposal efficiency will never reach great heights due to the knee issues but if that is the case then it is not Prestia's fault but the fault of the recruiting dept. for not doing their due diligence.

Those posters who claim that he will be a better player next year without any reason to back it up are just Kicking the can down the road to try and delay the debate on his value to the club.

Our club can't afford the massive recruiting blunders that have taken place over the past few seasons and our board need to clean out the deadwood and headhunt the best in the business.
 
yandb said:
The main problem with the Prestia advocates is because he is performing way under expectations the reasons and excuses are being trotted out.

I say reasons and excuses because reasons are genuine, excuses are supposition but are trotted out to justify a narrative.

Yes Prestia had an operation last July and was in for a minor cleanout.

Which gave him 4 months to recover before he reached Richmond but he hadn't fully recovered and was still on a modified program as the season commenced. (and still may be on the modified program.)

His Disposal efficiency trended downwards up until the hamstring injury.

Troting out phrases such as ' I suspect he is almost trying too hard' are just excuses.

Maybe his disposal efficiency will never reach great heights due to the knee issues but if that is the case then it is not Prestia's fault but the fault of the recruiting dept. for not doing their due diligence.

Those posters who claim that he will be a better player next year without any reason to back it up are just Kicking the can down the road to try and delay the debate on his value to the club.

Our club can't afford the massive recruiting blunders that have taken place over the past few seasons and our board need to clean out the deadwood and headhunt the best in the business.
"Next year" is always the great get-out clause for the club apologists.
 
yandb said:
The main problem with the Prestia advocates is because he is performing way under expectations the reasons and excuses are being trotted out.

I say reasons and excuses because reasons are genuine, excuses are supposition but are trotted out to justify a narrative.

Yes Prestia had an operation last July and was in for a minor cleanout.

Which gave him 4 months to recover before he reached Richmond but he hadn't fully recovered and was still on a modified program as the season commenced. (and still may be on the modified program.)

His Disposal efficiency trended downwards up until the hamstring injury.

Troting out phrases such as ' I suspect he is almost trying too hard' are just excuses.

Maybe his disposal efficiency will never reach great heights due to the knee issues but if that is the case then it is not Prestia's fault but the fault of the recruiting dept. for not doing their due diligence.

Those posters who claim that he will be a better player next year without any reason to back it up are just Kicking the can down the road to try and delay the debate on his value to the club.

Our club can't afford the massive recruiting blunders that have taken place over the past few seasons and our board need to clean out the deadwood and headhunt the best in the business.

Last time I saw him train he didnt even run the warm up lap. His training is very modified. I think he will be a great player when (if) he can do most of the training. Until then, the spotlight should be fair and square on the recruiters/due diligence process and not on Prestia. It's not his fault he's incapacitated and that we offered him big years at big $ to come to the club.
 
yandb said:
The main problem with the Prestia advocates is because he is performing way under expectations the reasons and excuses are being trotted out.

I say reasons and excuses because reasons are genuine, excuses are supposition but are trotted out to justify a narrative.

Yes Prestia had an operation last July and was in for a minor cleanout.

Which gave him 4 months to recover before he reached Richmond but he hadn't fully recovered and was still on a modified program as the season commenced. (and still may be on the modified program.)

His Disposal efficiency trended downwards up until the hamstring injury.

Troting out phrases such as ' I suspect he is almost trying too hard' are just excuses.

Maybe his disposal efficiency will never reach great heights due to the knee issues but if that is the case then it is not Prestia's fault but the fault of the recruiting dept. for not doing their due diligence.

Those posters who claim that he will be a better player next year without any reason to back it up are just Kicking the can down the road to try and delay the debate on his value to the club.

Our club can't afford the massive recruiting blunders that have taken place over the past few seasons and our board need to clean out the deadwood and headhunt the best in the business.
Y&b you are correct that the "trying to hard" is an excuse which I said was my opinion. However fact is he had virtually no preseason which ALWAYS has a huge impact on a players abilities and performance during the year. That's not an excuse. Clearly he is being managed and none of us really know why but that means he cannot unfortunately perform to his abilities. We saw how Conca changed posters minds this season after finally having an uninterrupted preseason.
I am keeping my opinion on Prestia as a "wait and see" before I write him off unlike Lennon who had a ripper preseason but cannot perform to the level we all expect.
It's a very tough and inexact business footy.
 
When fit he is a very good player.
He needs to be able to strongly run out each game, if he can't he is a liability.
 
BrisTiger24 said:
Last time I saw him train he didnt even run the warm up lap. His training is very modified.

Thanks, BT. Until I read your post I didn't even realise I was training.

I only missed one lap today. But tomorrow I'm going to not run forty. That's 18km. Call me a fanatic.

;D