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PSD - how does it work?

Jimmy_12

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Ok this might be a stupid question, but there's a couple of things I'm not sure about regarding the pre-season draft. I know it's basically the road that's taken when there's a stalemate between a club and player over a proposed trade but I don’t quite know how it works. I read today that if Carlton force Bret Thornton into the PSD then he’s likely to place a "prohibitive" price on his head of as much as $600,000 for a one-year deal so Carlton can’t redraft him and he gets to Hawthorn. But doesn’t this mean that Hawthorn would also have to pay him $600,000 (at least for the first year of his contract)? And can Carlton still redraft him and refuse to pay him $600,000 and thereby force him to play for less or stand out of football for a year?
 
Good question - hopefully someone can answer it for you.

Whilst on the subject of the PSD maybe someone can answer my question:

Can a team trade it's PSD pick? i.e. If team A was seeking a player from team B but team B was playing hard ball could team A trade a player or National draft pick to the team with PSD pick No.1 so that they could guarrantee passage to the player to walk out on team B so that team A would pick them up with the 1st pick in the PSD?

Does the AFL have a rule to prevent this from occurring?
 
MalenyTiger said:
Good question - hopefully someone can answer it for you.

Whilst on the subject of the PSD maybe someone can answer my question:

Can a team trade it's PSD pick? i.e. If team A was seeking a player from team B but team B was playing hard ball could team A trade a player or National draft pick to the team with PSD pick No.1 so that they could guarrantee passage to the player to walk out on team B so that team A would pick them up with the 1st pick in the PSD?

Does the AFL have a rule to prevent this from occurring?

I'd like to know that too.

eg. Krakouer and our 8th pick to Carlton for their first pick and we get Polak at pick 1?
 
Tigers of Old said:
MalenyTiger said:
Good question - hopefully someone can answer it for you.

Whilst on the subject of the PSD maybe someone can answer my question:

Can a team trade it's PSD pick?  i.e. If team A was seeking a player from team B but team B was playing hard ball could team A trade a player or National draft pick to the team with PSD pick No.1 so that they could guarrantee passage to the player to walk out on team B so that team A would pick them up with the 1st pick in the PSD?

Does the AFL have a rule to prevent this from occurring?

I'd like to know that too.

eg. Krakouer and our 8th pick to Carlton for their first pick and we get Polak at pick 1?

I dont believe you can trade players for PSD draft picks. All trades happen this week and must involve national draft picks. At least thats how Ive always understood it.

Jimmy12, the player puts a price on their head, I believe its amount and terms of contract. Any team can then take that offer up in the order that they get to pick in the PSD. So in the case of Thornton, if his price was a $600K one year deal then Carlton would have first choice as long as they offer him that deal. There is certainly risk in nominating for the PSD, especially if you are a team further down the list. The team may not get the player and the player may not get to their preferred team. On the flipside, you'd have to be very wary of picking a player who had their heart set for another team. Wouldnt create the best relationship to start proceedings.
 
GoodOne said:
...On the flipside, you'd have to be very wary of picking a player who had their heart set for another team.  Wouldnt create the best relationship to start proceedings...

We tried to do this with David Williams from Melbourne, who was set to miss the 1990 season with a knee injury. Melbourne dropped him off the list for a year and we claimed him in the 1990 pre-season draft - either a very shrewd or very brazen move, depending how you look at it. Williams never recovered fully from the injury and only played bush footy after that.

GoodOne said:
I dont believe you can trade players for PSD draft picks. All trades happen this week and must involve national draft picks. At least thats how Ive always understood it.

I think this is correct, as eligibility for the pre-season draft depends on a club's Total Player Payments situation. A club couldn't trade draft picks which it might not qualify for. In any case, no draft picks from any draft, other than the national draft, have ever changed hands so it's fair to assume there are rules in place to prevent it.
 
I believe that if a player puts a price and/or terms, such as 2 year deael etc, any club that drafted him would have to honour that deal. I think that's how we got Gaspar.
 
The nominated amount goes into the Total Player Payments for the club that picks him up and then they have to pay it, or it is draft tampering.

In the Thornton case, Hawthorn might agree to pay him $900K over three years but they load up the front end of the contract and give him $600K, 150K and $150K. The player would think all his Christmases have come at once.

The strategy depends on two things. They have room for a further $600K in their salary cap and no-one else does. This is very unlikely. Expect a trade or Thornton to stay with Carlton unless they are chasing someone else themselves in the PSD.