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Putting a listed player on the Rookie List

Rosy

Rosy

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Just wondering about the situation when a player who was on our list this year is put on the rookie list next year.

Would that player have to be delisted if he wanted to give himself a chance to get on a senior list? If that's the case and he wasn't selected would we have any say getting him on our rookie list or could any club swoop on him.

Would it be more likely that the club would explain the situation and their hopes for his future and he'd be happy to be rookied with us rather than nominate for the draft?

I don't really understand how rookieing (sorry if that's not a word :police: ) works, and if it would be in a player's best interests to be on Richmond's rookie list rather than try for another club.
 
He would nominate for the draft Rosella.If he doesnt get picked up in either the national or PSD and he falls under the Rookie requirements then he can be "Rookied" by anyone.
 
Captain sounds about right.

Would you know whether age (say for example being under 23) would allow a player to be picked up by their same club by default?
 
Probably be the luck of the draw, damned AFL....

You think they should allow a club to rookie list at least 1 of their own players back onto the rookie list without the young fellow thinking he might have to go somewhere else, like Scumwood or something... :vomit
 
feisty tige said:
You think they should allow a club to rookie list at least 1 of their own players back onto the rookie list without the young fellow thinking he might have to go somewhere else, like Scumwood or something...  :vomit
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Pretty sure we can put a player straight onto the rookie list if he doesn't wish to nominate himself in the draft in hopes of getting on a club list.

I suspect we'll be taking that option, but what I didn't understand is if he decided to nominate and wasn't selected do we get first dibs on him as a rookie. I doubt it really because I assume a player would have to be delisted before nominating for the draft.
 
a player cant go to another team if he doesn't nominate for the draft so there is no way a player can be lost to a club after being delisted and before being rookied
 
Ghost of Punt Road said:
I thought if a club wanted to move a player from the senior list to the rookie list they had to de-list them then take them in the rookie draft (hoping nobody else took them first).
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you might be right
 
THe player must be delisted first, making him available to everyone.

If he wants to go back to his original club, then he might choose to NOT nominate for the National Draft-then he can't be picked up that way. Then he must nominate for the Rookie Draft-I'm not sure about this point but I think he doesn't have to nominate for the PSD.

Then his club takes its turn to choose rookies. If he is still around at that point then his club can rookie him. He might even last untila late pick but it is always a risk that someone else will come in and take him.

The player would want some reasonable guarantees from the club if he was to do all this because he would be turning his back on an opportunity to get on another club's primary list by not nominating for the ND. He would be unhappy if he ignored other clubs and then wasn't rookied because the club deemed a better player to be available.

It would be in the player's best interests to nominate for as many drafts as possible to maximise his chances of a job next season, unless his club could convince him to do otherwise.

I actually think it would be fairer on all concerned if clubs had the discretion to move players backwards and forwards onto their rookie list. It would mean that a player who still needs more development time could be stepped down to the rookie list for up to two years and would allow his club to draft another player with a extra draft pick, not a rookie pick.

Of course, most clubs would then automatically slip 4 players onto the rookie list before each draft, including last year's first round picks if it suited. Sydney and Brisbane would have nine slots to do this with and the system would be open to some wonderful abuses.

Hence the current, inflexible system.
 
geoffryprettyboy said:
OK Rosy spill the beans, what have you heard? 

Has the 'little birdie' flown north and given you some info?
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Dean is the player I was wondering about.

I'm of the opinion we intend to rookie him. If SEN is accurate it seems he's been delisted so am I correct in thinking other clubs can draft him now and at this stage it's pot luck whether he ends up with us or not?
 
rosy23 said:
geoffryprettyboy said:
OK Rosy spill the beans, what have you heard? 

Has the 'little birdie' flown north and given you some info?
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Dean is the player I was wondering about. 

I'm of the opinion we intend to rookie him.  If SEN is accurate it seems he's been delisted so am I correct in thinking other clubs can draft him now and at this stage it's pot luck whether he ends up with us or not?
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We should find out when the official list goes up on the AFL site. If we can rookie him straight away, he'll be listed as a rookie.
 
rosy23 said:
geoffryprettyboy said:
OK Rosy spill the beans, what have you heard? 

Has the 'little birdie' flown north and given you some info?
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Dean is the player I was wondering about. 

I'm of the opinion we intend to rookie him.  If SEN is accurate it seems he's been delisted so am I correct in thinking other clubs can draft him now and at this stage it's pot luck whether he ends up with us or not?
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Correct Rosy.
 
The sensible way to have done it would have been to keep him on the list until 1 December list lodgement (post-National Draft), filled the vacated spot in the Pre Season Draft on 12 December and then picked the delisted player in the Rookie Draft later the same day.

So maybe we won't be redrafting Dean Limbach as a rookie. But then again, the above way would be the sensible way, so maybe we will. ;D
 
I'm wondering why Cam Howat hasn't been moved onto the senior list - I thought promoting him was a no-brainer! The only reason I could think of is they want the maximum number of senior list positions available for the National Draft and PSD and drafted players can't be rookie listed. Is that correct?
 
Jimmy_12 said:
I'm wondering why Cam Howat hasn't been moved onto the senior list - I thought promoting him was a no-brainer! The only reason I could think of is they want the maximum number of senior list positions available for the National Draft and PSD and drafted players can't be rookie listed. Is that correct?
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Not in our best 30 players and would not have got a game if it was not for injury.
When he did he played ok which in turn put some pressure on the club to keep him.
But still not in our best 30 players. The club is still not sure about him and to keep him as a rookie is the best way to go at this time.
 
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