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Quiet Trade Week For R F C !

Redford said:
So. The first day of trade week has passed.

With 16 supposedly “highly professional” corporate clubs with some 600+ players on their lists making up the most elite of sports competitions in this country – a competition that generates hundreds of millions of dollars in revenue each year-  just exactly how many trades have been formally executed or signed off on ? Answer ?

ZERO.

Looks like it’ll be another 2 minutes to go on Friday afternoon frenzy effort from these “highly professional” clubs.

Not sure but I thought trades could only be executed Tues thru Friday.
 
Tigerdog said:
The AFL should shorten it to 3 days. Force the clubs to get things done. It isn't like they don't chat before the trade period starts.

the problem with trade week is that no trades get done until the first big deal is made... then all the cards fall. the problem is that this usually happens at 1pm on friday... which means many of the other smaller trades don't get done... (eg. the big  :donut was traded at 1pm on friday which didn't leave GM with enough time to get the zantuck deal done)

i propose the following:
- every player is ranked from 1-38 in order of importance to every team.
- from 10:30am monday til 5:00pm wedneday, anyone can be traded
- from 10:30am thursday til 2:00pm friday, only players from 20-38 can be traded
- this means the focus is on the bigger trades earlier in the week and the smaller trades later in the week.
 
Bloody Polack rumours... >:(


Ian4 said:
i propose the following:
- every player is ranked from 1-38 in order of importance to every team.
- from 10:30am monday til 5:00pm wedneday, anyone can be traded
- from 10:30am thurday til 2:00pm friday players only players from 20-38 can be traded
- this means the focus is on the bigger trades earlier in the week and the smaller trades later in the week.

Mighty good idea IMO Ian. :clap
 
Negotiations can be broken into segments -

1) Understand what players are needed
2) research who has got those players and whether they are on the market
3) test those player's attitudes to coming to Tigerland
4) define what you believe is the right price to pay for any of those players including the cost of giving up draft picks
5) find a strong reason why the "selling-club" should trade the player - including multi-club three way deals etc. etc.
6) start low and make offers slowly towards your ceiling price
7) do not go past that price

The art of negotiation is to find the common ground upon which to agree - in the large negotiations this can take time and they can become a game of chess - all participants are concerned with one thing - to be seen as winning - therefore the quick trades are the ones where all parties concerned believe they can be seen as winners - the old win, win story (which is *smile* - because experience tells us that in the end there is always a winner and always a loser).

Yes the spin doctors from the "buying club" will come out with we need him as a KPP and we believe we got him at the right price or we got him cheap - whilst the "selling club" will spin that it was a good time for the player and them to part and the player/picks we got for him augurs well for the future. A whole lot of pox doctors *smile*.

The reason Friday becomes the crescendo is that the intricate deals of players and picks being transfered from one club to another are done by people who are uncertain if they will be seen as having a successful trade week and therefore are constantly hesitating at the deal(s) in front of them. All deals like this need a compelling event - and there is no better compelling event than a deadline!

Lets be honest - no matter what Greg Miller and his counterparts do this week there will be those who will praise them and those that will scold them - and in the end the coaches of each club will "sell" it as what we wanted!

IMO we have not got the high class professional negotiators that the American Sports Codes do and we are therefore not going to move as quickly as they do. There maybe a couple of guys like Greg Miller who know their way around trade week but the guys they are doing the trading with may not and therefore the trades will take longer - plus negotiating anything in Australia is vastly different to the brass band plastic marketing guff that the Yanks go on with.

Give the traders time - they have a lot of homework and planning to achieve even before trade week starts then they have to steer a course through a maize of options to achieve what is seen to be right at the time.

Leave trade week to just that - a week!