diditwithatigergal said:
tha8ball said:
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Shannon Hurn = looks to me like a Luke Hodge/Jordan Lewis hybrid.
Pattison was drated as a ruckman. His agilty is very poor thus will not be a key forward.
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Shannon Hurn = looks to me like a Luke Hodge/Jordan Lewis hybrid.
Pattison was drated as a ruckman. His agilty is very poor thus will not be a key forward.
Tango said:
He was TAC CHF, IIRC, Tango. And won the Coaches' award.
And the comments from GM at the time were along the lines of him being selected for CHF. Since then, Wallet has twice stated that he'd be given a chance at CHF in the ones, once late in last season (didn't eventuate-injury?) and again a couple of weeks ago in a RFC release about 2006.
I think you better add the word "well" to your Mickey Mouse comment, craig. Unless you want to be Mickey Mouse (a noble aspiration IMO) by round 1 next year.
Wallet's planning to play them there, from what he's said.
thanks for the correction Dyer, i knew he played CHf somewhere and that was why he was drafted, may turn out to be a bit like Darcy at the dogs though, handy mobile ruck but very damaging in the fwd 50
not sure he will stay a genuine CHF though (think he is a bit tall for that) time will tell
not sure he will stay a genuine CHF though (think he is a bit tall for that) time will tell
Tango said:
Probably the best contextual comparison I've seen or heard to where Patto is at in his career.
I certainly agree and see Patto as more of the 3 dimensional Darcy type ruckman/forward, than the Simmons (2 dimensional) or Peter Street (1 dimensional) type of ruckman.
Thanks for the support there garth..... better than the usual pistol whipping and head kicking thats reserved for personal opinions on this site... :cutelaugh :hihi
anyway back to Patto, he has the engine to play CHF the question is can he turn, has he got the ground game and has he the ability to bring others into the game (ie) footy smarts and handball skills - im not sure about his foot skills at this stage
he is probably better suited as the second tall closer to goal, but wallet will persist with him this year and see how he develops, i still like *smile* at CHF as i think he has the agression and smarts to play there, just need same at CHB before we can release *smile* fwd
anyway back to Patto, he has the engine to play CHF the question is can he turn, has he got the ground game and has he the ability to bring others into the game (ie) footy smarts and handball skills - im not sure about his foot skills at this stage
he is probably better suited as the second tall closer to goal, but wallet will persist with him this year and see how he develops, i still like *smile* at CHF as i think he has the agression and smarts to play there, just need same at CHB before we can release *smile* fwd
Patto isnt a forward. Simply he has not the agilty nor mobile to be able to play CHF forward at AFL level.
He was drafted to play ruck and will rest/roatate in the foward line.
He was drafted to play ruck and will rest/roatate in the foward line.
you better check his stats in the draft camp, very agile and a big engine for his size
whether or not he is a CHF thats a point, but saying he isnt a fwd is a bit premature at this stage
he is an in between height - not big enough as a big bodied tall ruckman and too tall for KPP but wallet likes his rucks mobile and thats why he chose him (in case he doesnt hold a spot in the fwd 50)
dont forget we had one of the best cntre square ruckmen in Knoble last year but he did squat else around the ground, not saying a ruckman doesnt count these days but he must do a bit more than tap out of the square
this is the sort of player that patto will fall back to if he cant play KPP
the days of set position players are over, its all about flexability, run run run and move the ball quickly
whether or not he is a CHF thats a point, but saying he isnt a fwd is a bit premature at this stage
he is an in between height - not big enough as a big bodied tall ruckman and too tall for KPP but wallet likes his rucks mobile and thats why he chose him (in case he doesnt hold a spot in the fwd 50)
dont forget we had one of the best cntre square ruckmen in Knoble last year but he did squat else around the ground, not saying a ruckman doesnt count these days but he must do a bit more than tap out of the square
this is the sort of player that patto will fall back to if he cant play KPP
the days of set position players are over, its all about flexability, run run run and move the ball quickly
White Czar said:
Disagree with you there White Nick, see Patto as a presenting forward that has the potential to run to and create contested ball situations for the crumbers.
Patto has a decent leap and is not afraid to back into contests to create spillages and opportunities for the swoopers. In future, it would take a big bodied defender with good aerobic capacity to maintain side position with Patto, which in turn will allow RFC to have the 3 pronged structure and Richo to maintain his roaming role in the forward 50.
Very agile for a ruckman. Poor agilty for a KPP. Mobile ruckman who can play forward. Wont make it at AFL level as an pure key postion forward.
Patto has alot of run and will be usful around the ground, not as a mobile key forward.
Footydraft:
Seen alot of Patto at TAC level, im a fan. Got a big heart and a good head on him. Not overly talented but I beleive he won his dies B&F, the coaches award for the league. He was named in the AA team at CHF but Deledio was named as forward pocket - I woudlnt read too much into that.
To me, he strikes me at best resting option up forward. How the Swans have used the likes of Jolly when not rucking. Wallce sides are build around quick/running/skilled backlines and midfeilders and a mobile forward line. Limbach and Hughes, even Shultz are prime examples.
See him taking over from Stafford next year.
Darth Tiger said:
Seen alot of Patto at TAC level, im a fan. Got a big heart and a good head on him. Not overly talented but I beleive he won his dies B&F, the coaches award for the league. He was named in the AA team at CHF but Deledio was named as forward pocket - I woudlnt read too much into that.
To me, he strikes me at best resting option up forward. How the Swans have used the likes of Jolly when not rucking. Wallce sides are build around quick/running/skilled backlines and midfeilders and a mobile forward line. Limbach and Hughes, even Shultz are prime examples.
See him taking over from Stafford next year.
Dyer'ere said:
What about the paper with the richmond list analysis given out last Tuesday night? Shulz was named as a Tall Forward forward - NOT a back - if you can read anything into that - and Patto Key Forward - both forwards - not backs!!
a fwd line with richo, patto, stafford & schulz is way too tall unless one sits on the pine
need only 2 permanent talls in the fwd 50 (richo, *smile*)
1 ruck (simmons)
1 ruck resting as a 3rd tall inside 50 or on the bench (patto)
would prefer 1 tall and 2 mobile medium fwds otherwise the fwd line is too congested and we get hurt on the rebound
need only 2 permanent talls in the fwd 50 (richo, *smile*)
1 ruck (simmons)
1 ruck resting as a 3rd tall inside 50 or on the bench (patto)
would prefer 1 tall and 2 mobile medium fwds otherwise the fwd line is too congested and we get hurt on the rebound
I'm pretty happy, but I have'nt seen any of them play. So based on what I've read O-N seems like a bit of a punt, but a very calculated and exciting punt. The Cleaver seems like a smart pick and solid prospect, and Casserley, apparently can run and kick. I mean, they all always sound great, time will tell. I also like the fact that TW's coaching philosophy and vision for the game is being strategically and professionally implemented. We all may not agree with all aspects of it all the time, but we aren't the head coach. Thats what I like about this draft, it doesn't seem like the headless chook approach of old.
I've got a good feeling about O-N.
I've got a good feeling about O-N.
Travis from: Author: Colin Wisbey
One is serious AFL material - chases, takes big clean grabs, attacks the ball, is clean, direct and purposeful. The other is at the opposite extreme, to the point of being insipid.
Interesting. Two players in one...
Probably why we only had three picks in the draft... :hihi
One is serious AFL material - chases, takes big clean grabs, attacks the ball, is clean, direct and purposeful. The other is at the opposite extreme, to the point of being insipid.
Interesting. Two players in one...
Probably why we only had three picks in the draft... :hihi