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How Tigers can ‘rebuild on the run’ and launch a raid on rivals: Trade chat recap​

David Zita from Fox Sports - September 8th, 2022

Richmond will enter next season a genuine premiership threat once more and, like Geelong before them with Jeremy Cameron and other savvy additions, seem set up to avoid the pitfalls of the standard rebuild.

They already have a strong list. While they failed to win a final, they finished the year with the fourth-best percentage in the AFL, and did not lose a game by more than a goal after Round 6.

The new method for clubs in the premiership hunt appears to be combining a slow but steady stream of retirements with the retention of veterans on lower salaries and then bringing in some significant signings on long-term deals that allow for salary cap maneuverability as needed.

Jack Riewoldt and Trent Cotchin have done their bit, re-signing for another year, while cap space has been freed up via the retirements of Josh Caddy, Kane Lambert and Shane Edwards.

It means the Tigers can afford what they’ve offered Taranto while still paying Dustin Martin $1.3 million next season and offer Jacob Hopper what Foxfooty.com.au understands is a bigger offer than that of Geelong - another side in the rebuild on the run mould.

The Tigers are positioned incredibly well not only to accommodate those deals, but also trade for them.

As it stands, the Tigers hold picks 12, 19 and 30 in this year’s draft as well as a first-round pick in next year’s draft.

The Giants will start high in their asking price, wanting two first-round picks in exchange for Taranto.

In addition to that, the Giants will also want a first-round pick for Hopper.

If there’s one thing the Geelong of 2023 has proven, it’s that three first-round picks going out the door doesn’t signal the ultimate all-in gamble many thought it was at the time.

The Cats have eschewed most equalisation conventions, keeping themselves in the premiership window and already having a significant number of younger players ready to take over when the likes of Joel Selwood and Tom Hawkins hang up the boots.

It’s unlikely the final trade deals will involve a total of three first-round picks, but in any case by the end of it they’ll have at least one more walk-up starter in the midfield, which has looked thin at times and has been left undermanned when Dion Prestia goes down hurt.

Whether it be a fringe player like ruckman Ivan Soldo heading across, or some negotiating done over the breakdown of Hopper’s salary next season, one suspects Richmond will hold at least one first-round pick in this year’s or next year’s draft.

Whatever new talent comes in will join an already impressive young brigade headlined by Josh Gibcus and Noah Cumberland.

The Tigers took three players inside the top 30 of last year’s draft, led by Gibcus, with Tyler Sonsie (pick 28) also playing in the elimination final, and Judson Clarke (pick 30) featuring at times through the season.

It’s a positive sign for the rejuvenation of Damien Hardwick’s side that they had six finals debutants against Brisbane - Gibcus, Cumberland, Sonsie, Ben Miller, Maurice Rioli and Jack Ross - despite all of their recent appearances in September.

Taranto and Hopper, 24 and 25 respectively, will add to the mid-aged bracket of the Tigers and provide the grunt, while the likes of Cotchin and Riewoldt continuing could prove the perfect stopgap while the younger Tigers develop.

Richmond’s premiership dynasty may’ve ended in 2020, but savvy list management means the next dynasty could be closer than we think.
 
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TigerForce

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How Tigers can ‘rebuild on the run’ and launch a raid on rivals: Trade chat recap​

David Zita from Fox Sports - September 8th, 2022

.......Richmond’s premiership dynasty may’ve ended in 2020, but savvy list management means the next dynasty could be closer than we think.
The 2nd coming.

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craig

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Edwards

Lambert

Caddy

Parker


Delist


Aarts or trade if possible for a pick.

Martyn


Trade / On the table if Timmy and Hopper are coming. I'd happily let 2 of these 4 go to get Hopper and Taranto in.


Aarts or delist and offer him the captaincy of the VFL

Castagna

Dow

RCD

Ralphsmith
 
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bob

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How Tigers can ‘rebuild on the run’ and launch a raid on rivals: Trade chat recap​

David Zita from Fox Sports - September 8th, 2022


The Tigers took three players inside the top 30 of last year’s draft, led by Gibcus, with Tyler Sonsie (pick 28) also playing in the elimination final, and Judson Clarke (pick 30) featuring at times through the season.
These guys phone their work in. No research done at all. 3 picks in the top 30. They forgot Brown. And what a classic, forgot Banks at 29 :ROFLMAO:

Honest to god, the AFL "Media" on SEN, Fox, AFL.com, Herald Sun would have to be the least professional profession out there.
The young kids working at Aldi and Coles do a better job stacking shelves than the 1300 accredited AFL journos working in the media
 
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MB78

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I reckon Lambert would've been on 400-500K, Caddy 350-400k
Lambert was on at least 550k as he was a restricted free agent meaning he was in our highest paid players.
 
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Edwards

Lambert

Caddy

Parker


Delist


Aarts or trade if possible for a pick.

Martyn


Trade / On the table if Timmy and Hopper are coming. I'd happily let 2 of these 4 go to get Hopper and Taranto in.


Aarts or delist and offer him the captaincy of the VFL

Castagna

Dow

RCD

Ralphsmith
You're in your element craigo.(y):))
 
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Brettstigers

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For big Tom, Dusty and Prestia - RFC stars of the comp who aren't close to retirement (fingers crossed for Prestia), not going quietly into the bottom half of the draw and a full rebuild shows them real respect. Dusty has done everything, but new blood reinvigorates and perhaps this will get him fired up again. He has declared again for the club and with this double trade, in my mind, the club has gone all in again for him.
 
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jb03

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How Tigers can ‘rebuild on the run’ and launch a raid on rivals: Trade chat recap​

David Zita from Fox Sports - September 8th, 2022

Richmond will enter next season a genuine premiership threat once more and, like Geelong before them with Jeremy Cameron and other savvy additions, seem set up to avoid the pitfalls of the standard rebuild.

They already have a strong list. While they failed to win a final, they finished the year with the fourth-best percentage in the AFL, and did not lose a game by more than a goal after Round 6.

The new method for clubs in the premiership hunt appears to be combining a slow but steady stream of retirements with the retention of veterans on lower salaries and then bringing in some significant signings on long-term deals that allow for salary cap maneuverability as needed.

Jack Riewoldt and Trent Cotchin have done their bit, re-signing for another year, while cap space has been freed up via the retirements of Josh Caddy, Kane Lambert and Shane Edwards.

It means the Tigers can afford what they’ve offered Taranto while still paying Dustin Martin $1.3 million next season and offer Jacob Hopper what Foxfooty.com.au understands is a bigger offer than that of Geelong - another side in the rebuild on the run mould.

The Tigers are positioned incredibly well not only to accommodate those deals, but also trade for them.

As it stands, the Tigers hold picks 12, 19 and 30 in this year’s draft as well as a first-round pick in next year’s draft.

The Giants will start high in their asking price, wanting two first-round picks in exchange for Taranto.

In addition to that, the Giants will also want a first-round pick for Hopper.

If there’s one thing the Geelong of 2023 has proven, it’s that three first-round picks going out the door doesn’t signal the ultimate all-in gamble many thought it was at the time.

The Cats have eschewed most equalisation conventions, keeping themselves in the premiership window and already having a significant number of younger players ready to take over when the likes of Joel Selwood and Tom Hawkins hang up the boots.

It’s unlikely the final trade deals will involve a total of three first-round picks, but in any case by the end of it they’ll have at least one more walk-up starter in the midfield, which has looked thin at times and has been left undermanned when Dion Prestia goes down hurt.

Whether it be a fringe player like ruckman Ivan Soldo heading across, or some negotiating done over the breakdown of Hopper’s salary next season, one suspects Richmond will hold at least one first-round pick in this year’s or next year’s draft.

Whatever new talent comes in will join an already impressive young brigade headlined by Josh Gibcus and Noah Cumberland.

The Tigers took three players inside the top 30 of last year’s draft, led by Gibcus, with Tyler Sonsie (pick 28) also playing in the elimination final, and Judson Clarke (pick 30) featuring at times through the season.

It’s a positive sign for the rejuvenation of Damien Hardwick’s side that they had six finals debutants against Brisbane - Gibcus, Cumberland, Sonsie, Ben Miller, Maurice Rioli and Jack Ross - despite all of their recent appearances in September.

Taranto and Hopper, 24 and 25 respectively, will add to the mid-aged bracket of the Tigers and provide the grunt, while the likes of Cotchin and Riewoldt continuing could prove the perfect stopgap while the younger Tigers develop.

Richmond’s premiership dynasty may’ve ended in 2020, but savvy list management means the next dynasty could be closer than we think.
David Zita is really good. Just reports facts.
 
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bricci

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Lambert

Caddy

Parker


Delist


Aarts or trade if possible for a pick.

Martyn


Trade / On the table if Timmy and Hopper are coming. I'd happily let 2 of these 4 go to get Hopper and Taranto in.


Aarts or delist and offer him the captaincy of the VFL

Castagna

Dow

RCD

Ralphsmith
Very good summary Craig. I think that we are a liittle delusional if we think any one will give us anything for Aarts or Martyn (or RCD for that matter)! 4 retirements and 2 probable delistments (6 total) and two coming in (Hopper, Taranto), we will have space for 4 draft picks but with likely no low picks (maybe a late 2nd rounder on a pick swap), I suspect we will only draft 1 or 2 players and then upgrade one or two (have to draft or upgrade a minimum of 3)(this goes up if Soldo and/or. RCD is involved in trade). Probably saving one pick for the mid season draft which has served us well. We could also rookie a player or two that trains with us - likely to be more than usual available this coming season. Overall, I hope we can keep our 2023 first rounder and maybe snare another second rounder - 3 inside 30 for 2023 would be perfect.
 
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caesar

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These guys phone their work in. No research done at all. 3 picks in the top 30. They forgot Brown. And what a classic, forgot Banks at 29 :ROFLMAO:

Honest to god, the AFL "Media" on SEN, Fox, AFL.com, Herald Sun would have to be the least professional profession out there.
The young kids working at Aldi and Coles do a better job stacking shelves than the 1300 accredited AFL journos working in the media

The report was correct, (that is not to say your generalization on the media isn't correct :))), as he was only talking about our 3 top 30 picks that debuted and played AFL level footy this year
 
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