Richie #4 draft pick

[Jools]

And who was it that recruited Eagleton to the Bulldogs? That's right, TW!

 

[Tigermad2005]

It just show how bad we are when i player like this has a good game.

 

[Disco08]

How old is Tambling? Is he 20 yet?

Similar AFL players:

Davey: playing VFL until 21, then an overnight sensation
Lovett: on rookie lists or lower level until he became an overnight sensation at 22 last season
Eagleton: up and down form at both PA and Bulldogs until abour 3 seasons ago. Didn't really wrap a senior spot until 24-25
Shaun Burgoyne: some early achievements and undoubted ability, still a bit flaky
Kerr: slow start to his career, hitting his straps over last couple of years, not much until 22-23
Jorden McMahon: until last season considered a soft shirker- now a class act as a running defender at age 22-23

As a group they are characterised by a lack of strength and true physicality, they don't like body on body stuff and prefer to use their speed to create havoc, when running with the ball, sweating on opponents and laying tackles or hard-running into space. They don't take pack marks but have no trouble jumping in front of packs or marking on hard leads. This is a tough gig and takes some learning.

This guy needs time, anyone who watched Eagleton last night needs to remember what his game was like or 5 years ago to put Tambling into perspective.

Tambling will not hit his straps for a couple of seasons. Anyone expecting otherwise does not understand what is needed for a player of his size and playing style to be successful in the AFL. If he performs like he did last night then he needs a few games at a lower level until his confidence comes back, that's all.

Wallace has stated repeatedly that he recruits for three years down the track, not for the present.

Sensational post. Couldn't agree more and really enjoyed reading a post where the author had thought about what they were saying.

 

[chislop]

How old is Tambling? Is he 20 yet?

Similar AFL players:

Davey: playing VFL until 21, then an overnight sensation
Lovett: on rookie lists or lower level until he became an overnight sensation at 22 last season
Eagleton: up and down form at both PA and Bulldogs until abour 3 seasons ago. Didn't really wrap a senior spot until 24-25
Shaun Burgoyne: some early achievements and undoubted ability, still a bit flaky
Kerr: slow start to his career, hitting his straps over last couple of years, not much until 22-23
Jorden McMahon: until last season considered a soft shirker- now a class act as a running defender at age 22-23

As a group they are characterised by a lack of strength and true physicality, they don't like body on body stuff and prefer to use their speed to create havoc, when running with the ball, sweating on opponents and laying tackles or hard-running into space. They don't take pack marks but have no trouble jumping in front of packs or marking on hard leads. This is a tough gig and takes some learning.

This guy needs time, anyone who watched Eagleton last night needs to remember what his game was like or 5 years ago to put Tambling into perspective.

Tambling will not hit his straps for a couple of seasons. Anyone expecting otherwise does not understand what is needed for a player of his size and playing style to be successful in the AFL. If he performs like he did last night then he needs a few games at a lower level until his confidence comes back, that's all.

Wallace has stated repeatedly that he recruits for three years down the track, not for the present.

Sensational post. Couldn't agree more and really enjoyed reading a post where the author had thought about what they were saying.

I second that!

 

[johnson2richo2003]

It just show how bad we are when i player like this has a good game.

Actually it shows how bad you look with this comment.

 

[Richmond United]

How old is Tambling? Is he 20 yet?

Similar AFL players:
 
       Davey: playing VFL until 21, then an overnight sensation
       Lovett: on rookie lists or lower level until he became an overnight sensation at 22 last season
       Eagleton: up and down form at both PA and Bulldogs until abour 3 seasons ago.  Didn't really wrap a senior spot until 24-25
       Shaun Burgoyne: some early achievements and undoubted ability, still a bit flaky
       Kerr: slow start to  his career, hitting his straps over last couple of years, not much until 22-23
       Jorden McMahon: until last season considered a soft shirker- now a class act as a running defender at age 22-23

As a group they are characterised by a lack of strength and true physicality, they don't like body on body stuff and prefer to use their speed to create havoc, when running with the ball, sweating on opponents and laying tackles or hard-running into space.  They don't take pack marks but have no trouble jumping in front of packs or marking on hard leads.  This is a tough gig and takes some learning. 

This guy needs time, anyone who watched Eagleton last night needs to remember what his game was like  or 5 years ago to put Tambling into perspective.
     
Tambling will not hit his straps for a couple of seasons.  Anyone expecting otherwise does not understand what is needed for a player of his size and playing style to be successful in the AFL.  If he performs like he did last night then he needs a few games at a lower level until his confidence comes back, that's all.

Wallace has stated repeatedly that he recruits for three years down the track, not for the present.

Sensational post. Couldn't agree more and really enjoyed reading a post where the author had thought about what they were saying.

I second that!

Agreed.  As tw said, most of the bulldog players we were all marvelling at last night experienced numerous pummelings under Rohde........look at them now.

Most teenagers require 3-4 pre-seasons before they are able to make their mark.

 

[CyberKev]

Hodge did not star in his first year.
He was scrathy but showed promise but Hawk fans were disappointed in him compared to Judd

Was Deledio's form last year "scratchy but promising"?

Hodge's first season form edged (at least statistically) Deledio's from last year, despite him missing a preseason and playing through injury across the season. He finished third in the Norwich behind Reiwoldt and Judd, but would have won all 3 Rising Star's since.

In as much as Hawk fans were disappointed with him, it was in his inability to shrug off injury through that season and across the following two (but the Schwab regime can take much of the blame for that).

Back to the topic at hand...

I'd concur with posters lamenting the need to decry a youngster in side brimming with more deserving targets for the obvious frustration and annoyance felt by loyal club fans.

Tambling has plenty of time to come good, and on what I've seen Franklin (himself still a raw pup) would probably have a similar impact at Richmond to what he's having at Hawthorn (ie. handy, but short of genuinely damaging), given that the Tiger fixation with Richo up forward mirrors the Hawk fixation with Williams.

Bagging out individuals won't accomplish much, when the overall structure that they're working in is flawed.

 

[Djevv]

While we're talking hypotheticals, I cant help but think that if the Bulldogs took Tambling at pick 3 instead of Griffen, Tambling would be running around on the wing in that Bulldogs side, chocked full of confidence and probably have the whole football world talking about him. How many kids have you seen walk into a mediocre Richmond side of the past 20 years and dominate. Maybe Deledio and thats it. The rest of them have to deal with a lack of leadership, lack of a game plan and being played out of position and constantly dragged. Thats no way for a kid to shine in his first few years. Stick with Richie, he'll be ok.

Well said, I saw him absolutely star a few years ago against these same Bulldogs. But he wasn't playing for Richmond where there is no leadership and no pride.

We need to be getting stuck into our 'leadership' not a kid with 13 games to his credit.

 

[Tigers of Old]

We need to be getting stuck into our 'leadership' not a kid with 13 games to his credit.

Agree.

 

[tigersnake]

agree TOT70, good post, proves my hunch with hard data, RT is a positive not a negative. are his games intodouble figures yet? would be only just.

 

[Spirit of Jack]

How old is Tambling? Is he 20 yet?

Similar AFL players:
 
       Davey: playing VFL until 21, then an overnight sensation
       Lovett: on rookie lists or lower level until he became an overnight sensation at 22 last season
       Eagleton: up and down form at both PA and Bulldogs until abour 3 seasons ago.  Didn't really wrap a senior spot until 24-25
       Shaun Burgoyne: some early achievements and undoubted ability, still a bit flaky
       Kerr: slow start to  his career, hitting his straps over last couple of years, not much until 22-23
       Jorden McMahon: until last season considered a soft shirker- now a class act as a running defender at age 22-23

As a group they are characterised by a lack of strength and true physicality, they don't like body on body stuff and prefer to use their speed to create havoc, when running with the ball, sweating on opponents and laying tackles or hard-running into space.  They don't take pack marks but have no trouble jumping in front of packs or marking on hard leads.  This is a tough gig and takes some learning. 

This guy needs time, anyone who watched Eagleton last night needs to remember what his game was like  or 5 years ago to put Tambling into perspective.
     
Tambling will not hit his straps for a couple of seasons.  Anyone expecting otherwise does not understand what is needed for a player of his size and playing style to be successful in the AFL.  If he performs like he did last night then he needs a few games at a lower level until his confidence comes back, that's all.

Wallace has stated repeatedly that he recruits for three years down the track, not for the present.

Went to make a comment on this but TOT70, you said it all. One the better posts I've seen, put the misguided ferals back in their box.

 

[rinso17]

How old is Tambling? Is he 20 yet?

Similar AFL players:
 
       Davey: playing VFL until 21, then an overnight sensation
       Lovett: on rookie lists or lower level until he became an overnight sensation at 22 last season
       Eagleton: up and down form at both PA and Bulldogs until abour 3 seasons ago.  Didn't really wrap a senior spot until 24-25
       Shaun Burgoyne: some early achievements and undoubted ability, still a bit flaky
       Kerr: slow start to  his career, hitting his straps over last couple of years, not much until 22-23
       Jorden McMahon: until last season considered a soft shirker- now a class act as a running defender at age 22-23

As a group they are characterised by a lack of strength and true physicality, they don't like body on body stuff and prefer to use their speed to create havoc, when running with the ball, sweating on opponents and laying tackles or hard-running into space.  They don't take pack marks but have no trouble jumping in front of packs or marking on hard leads.  This is a tough gig and takes some learning. 

This guy needs time, anyone who watched Eagleton last night needs to remember what his game was like  or 5 years ago to put Tambling into perspective.
     
Tambling will not hit his straps for a couple of seasons.  Anyone expecting otherwise does not understand what is needed for a player of his size and playing style to be successful in the AFL.  If he performs like he did last night then he needs a few games at a lower level until his confidence comes back, that's all.

Wallace has stated repeatedly that he recruits for three years down the track, not for the present.

Went to make a comment on this but TOT70, you said it all.  One the better posts I've seen, put the misguided ferals back in their box. 

This whole can of worms was predictable.
Givng recruits 3 and 4 years is fine and correct However what seperates those picked up in round 1 or top five to those further down the order of selection is how match ready they are .
i.e if a player in a feeder league is dominating its probably due to the fact he is further advanced than his apponents hence catchung the eyes of recruiters with which,in the Darwin league, Tambling no doubt did that.
Those who are less developed and perhaps more speculative are generally selected later in the order so it is reason able to allow these selections far longer to develop.
On that basis l still say Richie Tambling has yet to show why he was considered a pick #4 recruit and according to some at the time #1.

 

[crackertiger]

Get of this kids back, he is 18 or 19 for Christ sake!

 

[craig]

Agree Bling will be OK he is a football talent and he is not a concern for mine.

Pattison is more of an issue i believe the boy just looks nowhere near it and yes he has played 3 games and is a 2nd year player but geez the just has no idea at all and is slow.

 

[Bill James]

How old is Tambling? Is he 20 yet?

Similar AFL players:
 
       Davey: playing VFL until 21, then an overnight sensation Debuted at 20
       Lovett: on rookie lists or lower level until he became an overnight sensation at 22 last season First year on the list last year
       Eagleton: up and down form at both PA and Bulldogs until abour 3 seasons ago.  Didn't really wrap a senior spot until 24-25 Debut at 20, his second season was as good as last year
       Shaun Burgoyne: some early achievements and undoubted ability, still a bit flaky Debut as 19yo. Last year was his only bad year when he had a 10 week knee injury
       Kerr: slow start to  his career, hitting his straps over last couple of years, not much until 22-23 Debut as 17yo, 300 possesions in first season 400 possessions every year since

Great argument shame not supported by the facts. Its rare that a player of quality is not a quality player as a 20yo.

On that score Bling will still be 20 for most of next season. He has time.

 

[TOT70]

Great argument shame not supported by the facts. Its rare that a player of quality is not a quality player as a 20yo.

On that score Bling will still be 20 for most of next season. He has time.

I believe that was the point.