Richmond take the term "run and carry" to a new level

[tigersforever06]

Why the *smile* do players mark then immediatley handball sideways without

(A) actually looking

(B) assessing options

Run and carry does not mean mark and handball to the closest avaiable man.

Anyone else notice this cherry topping on our pathetic gameplan??

While im at it, Gaspar's disposal actually contributes to players getting injured its that bad

 

[mb64]

Run,carry,then drop the ball.

 

[Liverpool]

Why the *smile* do players mark then immediatley handball sideways without

(A) actually looking

(B) assessing options

Run and carry does not mean mark and handball to the closest avaiable man.

Anyone else notice this cherry topping on our pathetic gameplan??

While im at it, Gaspar's disposal actually contributes to players getting injured its that bad

Actually, when many of these players handball, they turn their back and handpass to a player running past...more often than not, that player runs into a brick-wall of opposition players, ending up in a turnover and a goal, or a ball-up at half-back...when the damn ball should be 60 metres further up the ground, to begin with.

A small defence of this "style" pf play, is that players do this ring-a-ring-a-rosy handpass crap, because our players up the ground are jogging around in circles, refusing to run hard into space, provide an option, or to work for their team mate who has the ball.

Its "lazy footy", simple as that...and something we did a lot under Frawley....thats what scared me the most tonight.
That first half reminded me of the Tigers, circa 2002-2003.... :'(

 

[tigersforever06]

Actually, when many of these players handball, they turn their back and handpass to a player running past...more often than not, that player runs into a brick-wall of opposition players, ending up in a turnover and a goal, or a ball-up at half-back...when the damn ball should be 60 metres further up the ground, to begin with.

A small defence of this "style" pf play, is that players do this ring-a-ring-a-rosy handpass crap, because our players up the ground are jogging around in circles, refusing to run hard into space, provide an option, or to work for their team mate who has the ball.

Its "lazy footy", simple as that...and something we did a lot under Frawley....thats what scared me the most tonight.
That first hald reminded me of the Tigers, circa 2002-2003.... :'(

You're second paragraph is absolutley spot on. It's so true its actually frightening

 

[geoffryprettyboy]

And we made of Forrest Gump! :

 

[mainlandy]

It happened all night. Hospital handball after hospital handball. I am convinced our player's first priority is to either look sideways or backwards before looking forward. Just ludicrous, wacky football to me.

 

[tigertim]

Handballing

Now I know we suck at many aspects of the game (disposal by foot, hard running, accuracy in front of goal, kicking in from a point) but tonight it really hit me how poor we are at handballing.

More to the point how we handball to stationery team-mates, team-mates with an opponent 1.5cms away, team-mates in a worse postion, a team-mate about 2cms away, a team-mate not expecting the ball, a team-mate running in the wrong direction...have I missed something?

Yet again I ask how can 22 players (there's not many who aren't guilty of this, even Lids!) all have the same deficiency? One players whose handballing , in my eyes, is very poor is Polo who every time he handballs he bends his body like a contortionist and then proceeds to give off a weak handball or a bad option handball.

Am I the only one to notice this aspect or is it pointless my highlighting only 1 of our many deficiencies?

 

[3121FC]

Re: Handballing


Who is to blame for all this. TW he is the one who should see all this not you and me
he is turning in to another malcolm blight. No idea of coching after being in the media
for few years...................... (or lost interest)...............................................

 

[tigertim]

I've read this after starting another thread on our woeful handballing. Glad to notice I wasn;t the only one to comment on and notice this.

Rosy or Mod, may need to combine my "Handballing" thread with this one.

 

[shawry]

Iagree. I am sick of our handballing for hte sake of it. WE use it way too much. It is a disgrace. We ahve to get out of this habit. Does no one good. 1 out of 4 times goes to a bloek i nimmediate danger, but what does the bloke who handpassed it care, he got rid of it so not his roblem anymore. It is that selfish attitude hwy our club is going nowhere.

 

[shawry]

Re: Handballing

Iagree with all fo this. It is something that needs to be eradicated from our game. But hten we jsut kick int othe forward line with no system anyway so it is a lose lose situation anyway.

 

[LeeToRainesToRoach]

Why the *smile* do players mark then immediatley handball sideways without

(A) actually looking

(B) assessing options

The instruction must be to move the ball on at all costs, but the team's playing without confidence so it's not instinctive or cohesive.

 

[JR8]

The instruction must be to move the ball on at all costs, but the team's playing without confidence so it's not instinctive or cohesive.

Good call LTRTR.

Cant wait till our teamwork gells.

I've only been waiting 25 yrs!!

 

[Japantiger]

Re: Handballing

If there is one thing I HATE about Richmond this year is the over use of handballing and ultimately scores on the board for the oppossing team when we handball to out of position, marked or stationary players. It shows a total lack of footy decision making skills. The good 'ol days of kick it long have long past Richmond. I would prefer them drill it down the oppositions throat 40-50m up field than hand it off to them the way they currently do, at least they'd have to work to get that 50m back. Real Keystone cops stuff sometimes.

 

[Goodwin 24]

Re: Handballing

What happened to all the key indicators TW used to preach....4 goals a quarter, 100 points a game, 50 kicks a quarter, 25 handballs a quarter - we are butchering the ball with overuse of handball and nothing seems to be changing this year....

 

[tigersforever06]

Why the *smile* do players mark then immediatley handball sideways without

(A) actually looking

(B) assessing options

The instruction must be to move the ball on at all costs, but the team's playing without confidence so it's not instinctive or cohesive.

"Move the ball on at all costs" is a risky gameplan. To pull if off you need an ultra-skilled team where teamates know how each other operate

Not only are we the most un-skilled team in the compeition, our teamates do not know each others game.

For example, A player will mark on the wing and immediatley handball sideways, thus playing on, but the next option isnt there yet because no one up ground has made themselves a target. So the player receives the ball looks up has no options props goes sideways and so on.

Another example is kick-outs. Bowden will kick it 30 meters to someone who will then spin and play on, only to realise his next option is non-existent. So that player props and goes sideways. Or on occasions the players next option is RIcho ona 60 meter lead, and the kick has to be spot on because its either a long kick or Richo's opponent is in toe. As such the ball just comes straight back inside our defensive 50 because the reality is the kick is just too hard to execute. There is no other club who puts themesvles under so much pressure to deliver pin point passes its just ridiculous

If we are going to play that type of football players upfield need to work harder to create options.

Its just crap football. We have 2 legitamate key forwards. Why cant we devise a gameplan around them. Why is our gameplan based on having midgets out there when we have the best contested mark in the comp and another promising forwrad (Schulz)

What we need is a half forward who presents like a Ryan O'Keefee. We have pettifer playing this role but he dosent have the pace to link between wing and half forward on numerous occasions.

In summary, the gameplan is utter garbage. It's not working now, and unless theres about 5-10 skilled youngsters we dont know about I cant see it working in the near future

 

[skiptomystu]

Why the *smile* do players mark then immediatley handball sideways without

(A) actually looking

(B) assessing options

Run and carry does not mean mark and handball to the closest avaiable man.

Anyone else notice this cherry topping on our pathetic gameplan??

While im at it, Gaspar's disposal actually contributes to players getting injured its that bad

You have taken the words right out of my mouth, word-for-word :hihi

Seriously, WTF do we do this? It's as if there is no comraderie, it's like "Well I'll just get rid of the ball, it's his problem now"

FFS At least have a look before you play on Tiges! It contributes to at least 4-5 goals for the opposition a game!

 

[momentai]

There is a danger that we abuse the plan because we can't execute, but personally I don't see it. We have players who can bring the ball to ground and or take a pack mark, with players with the speed to get front and center. I think we have players who can kick long but its been so long since some have tried it I am not so sure.

That is the way we have won flags in the past and is the way we can do it again. It is also the WC game plan and why the Crows tripped over last season.