Richmond V Collingwood Game Night Thread.

[philipwalsh]

Can anyone please explain to me what the purpose of playing Gaspar is? Terry said that he was kept on the list to play on the bigger forwards, yet on Friday night he didn't get either Rocca or Cloke and was assigned on the midget Medhurst. Gaspar is a huge liability and depletes any confidence in his teamates. We are a man short becasue his teamates are hesitant to go to him. This is obvious out there.

Terry also stated that one of the reasons Polak was recruited was to release Bowden form key position duties. Polak was running around like a utility all night, all season. We have Schulz and Richo up forward, we don't need Polak congesting things there. JBowden is not a Key Position player, but he does a resonable job however. We are wasting his talents when he has to follow the likes of Fevola and Rocca.

Wallace is starting to show his lack of match up and coaches box skills. We are losing these games in the coaches box. Massive question marks on Terry. He persists with Tuck, Johnson, Tiv and Krak as his A team onballers, despite the fact that they are not good enough. He persists with very average footballers in a position where the game is won or lost. Pensioners like O'Bree, Burns and Licuria absolutely killed us in the middle. He was too scared to make a move. Maybe he's playing for draft picks.

In terms of changes -

In - PBowden, Riewoldt, Casserly
Out - Tuck, Howat, Gaspar.
(Raines and Pettifer lucky to keep their spots)

It's quite bizaar isn't it. I just can't believe what Terry has been doing. I don't regard myself as much of an analyst of the game, but with spud, I could always spot a decent move that he could have made (the most significant being him walking from the club!). This year I'm seeing the same thing with Terry and I don't have a football brain (just a love of our club). Now I'm worried. I hope there's some rhyme or reason for what's happening.

 

[TOT70]

Can anyone please explain to me what the purpose of playing Gaspar is? Terry said that he was kept on the list to play on the bigger forwards, yet on Friday night he didn't get either Rocca or Cloke and was assigned on the midget Medhurst. Gaspar is a huge liability and depletes any confidence in his teamates. We are a man short becasue his teamates are hesitant to go to him. This is obvious out there.

Terry also stated that one of the reasons Polak was recruited was to release Bowden form key position duties. Polak was running around like a utility all night, all season. We have Schulz and Richo up forward, we don't need Polak congesting things there. JBowden is not a Key Position player, but he does a resonable job however. We are wasting his talents when he has to follow the likes of Fevola and Rocca.

Exactly my thoughts. So far Bowden has played on Fevola, Hall and Rocca. McGuane has taken Waite and Cloke, Moore has played on Fisher and O'Keeffe.

Gaspar has played on Lunchbox , Medhurst and whoever is left over. Essentially, that is the Kellaway role.

So tell me again how that works. Get rid of Kellaway and re-invent Gaspar to play Kellaway's role?

Why not keep Kellaway? Or better yet, give the role to McGuane, JON or Moore.

Mystifying!

Maybe he's playing for draft picks.

It is a gutsy effort to call this before the season had even started but you might be on the money here. If the plan is to step up in 2011, then you may as well tank a year or two along the way.

I really hate this reverse order draft. It is so open to corruption. The underlying assumption every time two teams go out to play is that they will try to win. The punishments should come when they lose, not when they win.

 

[tiger in the night]

Can anyone please explain to me what the purpose of playing Gaspar is? Terry said that he was kept on the list to play on the bigger forwards, yet on Friday night he didn't get either Rocca or Cloke and was assigned on the midget Medhurst. Gaspar is a huge liability and depletes any confidence in his teamates. We are a man short becasue his teamates are hesitant to go to him. This is obvious out there.

Terry also stated that one of the reasons Polak was recruited was to release Bowden form key position duties. Polak was running around like a utility all night, all season. We have Schulz and Richo up forward, we don't need Polak congesting things there. JBowden is not a Key Position player, but he does a resonable job however. We are wasting his talents when he has to follow the likes of Fevola and Rocca.

Wallace is starting to show his lack of match up and coaches box skills. We are losing these games in the coaches box. Massive question marks on Terry. He persists with Tuck, Johnson, Tiv and Krak as his A team onballers, despite the fact that they are not good enough. He persists with very average footballers in a position where the game is won or lost. Pensioners like O'Bree, Burns and Licuria absolutely killed us in the middle. He was too scared to make a move. Maybe he's playing for draft picks.

In terms of changes -

In - PBowden, Riewoldt, Casserly
Out - Tuck, Howat, Gaspar.
(Raines and Pettifer lucky to keep their spots)

Perfect summary. Gaspar should have been benched on Friday night and Polak moved to the backline to take either Rocca or Cloke - freeing McGuane for Medhurst. What the hell was Polak doing in the forward line - they never found him with the pill and must have been used as a decoy. Very tactically expensive faux forward. Gas out - Reiwoldt to come in.

Tuck should not be there for centre clearances. Or if he is he must be instructed to handball when he finds himself with the pill. His mindless thumpers from the midfield are anticipated by the opposition and very rarely fall to our advantage. It would not surprise me to learn that opposition midfielders allow Tuck space to receive the ball in preference to other midfielders in the way that Gaspar is similiarly isolated in the backline. There were a number of times on Friday when he had the clear option of handballing to a trailing midfielder moving laterally and instead just threw it on the boot. Poor defensive game as well and was that bad that he was spoiling other forwards in attempts to mark when sent forward. Must have a spell at Coburg. Edwards to replace.

Polo or Howat? Choose one and leave the other at Coburg. You can only have so many ultra skinny mids. Polo for mine - by a mile.

PBo to come in for Pettifer - he just needs to be punished for all his non efforts. Pbo to FB and JBo to the middle.

 

[lamb22]

Just had a quick peruse of Friday's stats and note that Gaspar had 13 possessions and two clangers but an efficiency rating of 92%? Assuming all his other 11 possessions were gems that would be a 1 in 6.5 possesion clanger ratio giving effectiveness of about 84%.

Young Patto also pulled of a freak stats performance - 5 possessions and 6 clangers and an efficiency rating of 40%.?

Tucky of course is around 50% effeciency as usual - but what does it all mean - perhaps Fudge can help -

Are frees against clangers and did GAS say have one disposal error in 12 - that would make a 92.5% dosposal rating make sense

 

[jb03]

Just had a quick peruse of Friday's stats and note that Gaspar had 13 possessions and two clangers but an efficiency rating of 92%? Assuming all his other 11 possessions were gems that would be a 1 in 6.5 possesion clanger ratio giving effectiveness of about 84%.

Young Patto also pulled of a freak stats performance - 5 possessions and 6 clangers and an efficiency rating of 40%.?

Tucky of course is around 50% effeciency as usual - but what does it all mean - perhaps Fudge can help -

Are frees against clangers and did GAS say have one disposal error in 12 - that would make a 92.5% dosposal rating make sense

Patsy should be able to help here.

 

[Mr Brightside]

Just had a quick peruse of Friday's stats and note that Gaspar had 13 possessions and two clangers but an efficiency rating of 92%? Assuming all his other 11 possessions were gems that would be a 1 in 6.5 possesion clanger ratio giving effectiveness of about 84%.

Young Patto also pulled of a freak stats performance - 5 possessions and 6 clangers and an efficiency rating of 40%.?

Tucky of course is around 50% effeciency as usual - but what does it all mean - perhaps Fudge can help -

Are frees against clangers and did GAS say have one disposal error in 12 - that would make a 92.5% dosposal rating make sense

Can explain a little for you Lamby

Pato gave away a free kick to Fraser which counts as a clanger

Tucky I agree with most his disposal aint great but like Kirk his efficency rate comes down because they kick so many balls in a contested area,this also been the case for Judd who is about 75% efficencty but very rarely will miss a target when in space unlike Tuck an Kirk,but Judds kicks in contested possesion still count towards efficency

His disposal rating was probally 92%

 

[Harry]

Just had a quick peruse of Friday's stats and note that Gaspar had 13 possessions and two clangers but an efficiency rating of 92%? Assuming all his other 11 possessions were gems that would be a 1 in 6.5 possesion clanger ratio giving effectiveness of about 84%.

Young Patto also pulled of a freak stats performance - 5 possessions and 6 clangers and an efficiency rating of 40%.?

Tucky of course is around 50% effeciency as usual - but what does it all mean - perhaps Fudge can help -

Are frees against clangers and did GAS say have one disposal error in 12 - that would make a 92.5% dosposal rating make sense

It means that stats count for nothing.

I'd rather watch the game and assess the players performance that way.

 

[lamb22]

Just had a quick peruse of Friday's stats and note that Gaspar had 13 possessions and two clangers but an efficiency rating of 92%? Assuming all his other 11 possessions were gems that would be a 1 in 6.5 possesion clanger ratio giving effectiveness of about 84%.

Young Patto also pulled of a freak stats performance - 5 possessions and 6 clangers and an efficiency rating of 40%.?

Tucky of course is around 50% effeciency as usual - but what does it all mean - perhaps Fudge can help -

Are frees against clangers and did GAS say have one disposal error in 12 - that would make a 92.5% dosposal rating make sense

It means that stats count for nothing.

I'd rather watch the game and assess the players performance that way.

I dont think they count for nothing Harold, it providse a counter to some of the more hysterical posters. Mystified as to how Patto can have 5 non free clangers and 5 possessions and have an efficiency rate of 40% though , maybe there is a mercy rule and they dont go below 40 so as not to embarrass the players

 

[Disco08]

If stats meant nothing do you think all the teams in the league, even the really good ones , would be employing their own statisticians as well as subscribing to stats services to help with scouting opposition teams? Some people like to make out that they're more footy knowledgeable than everyone else and therefore they don't need stats, but clearly the best way to form a truly balanced opinion is by using every type of assessment method available to you.