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Round 18 - Last Round for the losers

aoc1974

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Geelong's team on Sunday was the oldest ever, taking the record off Richmond's R15 1923 side.
Amongst your beautifully maintained lists of stuff @LeeToRainesToRoach would you know what's the oldest team to win the flag and where we figure with say our most recent team?
No rush... anytime within the next half hour would be good;)
 
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LeeToRainesToRoach

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Amongst your beautifully maintained lists of stuff @LeeToRainesToRoach would you know what's the oldest team to win the flag and where we figure with say our most recent team?
No rush... anytime within the next half hour would be good;)

Our oldest team this year was last week's @ 26.68. The return of Lynch and Prestia at the expense of younger players will likely make it the oldest Richmond team since the 1930's.

Oldest premiership teams on GF day

RankAvg AgeClubYearAll-time rank / 31,534
127.83Haw201536
227.73Ess192349
327.68Fitz194455
427.55Coll190393
527.29Carl1908193
627.27Geel2011200
727.01P.A.2004390
826.95Coll1919439
926.92Rich1921474
1326.77Rich1934674
2026.48Rich20191,278
3326.01Rich19203,064
5325.40Rich19437,278
5825.32Rich19807,944
5925.30Rich19748,074
6825.18Rich19329,223
7225.12Rich20179,780
9224.45Rich197316,950
11223.46Rich196926,185
11323.46Rich196726,237
12122.94Coll195829,198

Oldest premiership teams over H&A season

RankAvg AgeClubYearH&A PosAge RankAll-time rank / 1,532
126.91Fitz19442nd1st9
226.86Rich19212nd1st12
326.82Haw20153rd1st15
426.79Ess19241st1st17
526.72Coll19191st2nd21
626.68Geel20112nd1st24
726.65Coll19021st1st26
826.47Coll19031st1st41
926.40Rich19201st3rd49
2025.90Rich19341st2nd155
(23)25.83Rich20203rd8th172
4025.44Rich19431st6th296
5725.03Rich19803rd6th503
5825.03Rich20193rd11th505
7324.70Rich19322nd6th686
7724.65Rich20173rd14th710
8324.47Rich19741st2nd803
9224.12Rich19732nd1st1,004
11523.21Rich19671st6th1,370
11623.10Rich19694th5th1,397
12322.82Melb19551st11th1,458

The three-month pause after Round 1 warps this year's numbers upward by about 0.20.

The age of the competition fluctuates a bit (from 25.30 in the 1920's to 23.15 in the 1950's; 25.58 in 2020) but the moral of the story is, flags are generally won by mature teams.
 
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Baloo

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L2R2D2, what's the gap between the oldest and youngest teams we fielded this year?
 

tigersnake

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That's old all right. Most of those guys are dead!

Oldie but a goodie. That the old Bob Davis joke, someone asked him who would win out of his 50s sides and blights sides, he said 'them, just, but we're getting on a bit'
 
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LeeToRainesToRoach

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There is a difference between being a mature aged team and a straight out old team - one hopes.

Younger teams actually have a better record in finals than in h&a. A few warning signs for Geelong on Sunday. They've also been the third-oldest h&a team ever (27.20), and would be the oldest to win a flag. I expect Port beats them in week 1.
 
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spook

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Oldie but a goodie. That the old Bob Davis joke, someone asked him who would win out of his 50s sides and blights sides, he said 'them, just, but we're getting on a bit'
Also Bradman, when it was put to him in the 80s that he would struggle to average 99.94 against the powerful Windies pace quartet: "I would probably average around 50. But you have to remember, I am 80!"
 
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aoc1974

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Our oldest team this year was last week's @ 26.68. The return of Lynch and Prestia at the expense of younger players will likely make it the oldest Richmond team since the 1930's.

Oldest premiership teams on GF day
Thank you @LeeToRainesToRoach magnificent work as per usual..

Any chance you can get in touch with DKing to let him know you're only a phone call away... might allow him to use a few facts instead of some of the stats he throws out!
 
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year of the tiger

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Younger teams actually have a better record in finals than in h&a. A few warning signs for Geelong on Sunday. They've also been the third-oldest h&a team ever (27.20), and would be the oldest to win a flag. I expect Port beats them in week 1.

Ah - you answered my question - thanks - as you would expect there is a tipping point where you can actually be too old like last year when Geelong couldn’t go with us when we went up another year in last years prelim. Old teams like Geelong ran out of steam last year as they couldn’t maintain the H&A form all year and the same appears to be happening this year.
 

JR8

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Ah - you answered my question - thanks - as you would expect there is a tipping point where you can actually be too old like last year when Geelong couldn’t go with us when we went up another year in last years prelim. Old teams like Geelong ran out of steam last year as they couldn’t maintain the H&A form all year and the same appears to be happening this year.

They certainly looked old and slow against the Swans. Should have lost that.
 
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leon

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Ah - you answered my question - thanks - as you would expect there is a tipping point where you can actually be too old like last year when Geelong couldn’t go with us when we went up another year in last years prelim. Old teams like Geelong ran out of steam last year as they couldn’t maintain the H&A form all year and the same appears to be happening this year.
Yes and it may manifest again with sheer finals intensity but there were were already signs that the Moggs are hitting the wall over the last few weeks. Even though overall fewer games and shorter duration have made them look better than they really are. Since we exposed them brutally, they have struggled to get over the Bulldogs and Swans should have beaten them comfortably but for the over-rated Papley missing at least 2 sitters.

I think they might be able to get over Poort due to a lack of a suitable match-up for PITB Hawkins as well as their serious desperation to win another flag for the motley crew of Selwood, Gazza and Danger.
But then Weagles, who should terminate the Skunks, to belt them out of it, as they have the tight defence and sharp forwards who will outplay them given Nicnat to win CLRs between relatively equal midfields.
 

leon

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Nah I reckon Port with the help of their feral supporters will just get them over the line against the Pensioners!!!
And don't forgot the influence on the umpires!? But the oldies get a weeks recovery don't forget. Thrashed the ferals' faves last time too.
 

DragaTheCro

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Another Titus O’Reilly pearler
 

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