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IS SanfL on ABC on Foxtel as it not on regular ABC is it.

SANFL is on the second ABC digital channel on tues nights at 11pm. check tvguide.ninemsn.com.au
 
mk33 said:
Agree with you there Rayzor Adelaide you think unlikely to trade young ruckman with Clarke in his last year, Hudson off a knee reco and Biglands approaching 30.

Would not like to trade Meyer after two years unless he really want to stay out of football

There were some big wraps about Maric in the Age footy supplement at start of the year.

IS SanfL on ABC on Foxtel as it not on regular ABC is it.
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Yeah mk, Luke is right on the money...get the WAFL game of the week as well...I don't often get time to catch either, but might try to make time once this year's draft gets closer...I like to keep an eye on Phantom's up and comers thread and that board in general.

I wasn't aware Hudson had a reco...makes holding onto both Maric and Meeson even more likely I guess.
 
Ian4 said:
stafford was a quality ruckman in his sydney days and developed over the years so he could pinch hit up forward. knoble needs to learn how to take a mark so he can do the same.
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Watching Staff over the last couple of weeks he could also use a refresher course on how to take a mark. He does everything right except hold on to the bloody ball. Of course I know it is all really easy, sitting as I do in my comfy armchair. :hihi
 
Rucks have always been and will always be overated! Remember, Fraser was picked at #1 and Hille at #40.....moral of the story....never give a good draft pick to land a ruck!
 
Some one go find out where the number one ruckman for each side was selected.

The only number one picks I can think of our Jeff White & Josh Fraser.

THat should give us some picture of what pcik to use on a young ruckman.
 
Adel -Clarke-pick 54- traded
Bris Charman pick 29-
Carlton French pick rookie-traded
Coll Fraser-1
Ess Hille pick 40
Freo Sandilands-rookie
Geel King compensation pick
Haw Everitt-zone selection-traded
Roos Hale-pick7
Melb White pick 1 traded
P A Lade-zone
Rich Simo-rookie traded
stk Ackland -27 traded
Syd Jolly-rookie traded
WC cox -rookie
W B Darcy -Father/son
Some may disagree with whos the clubs number 1s but there is a great variety how to get good ruckman to a club
 
A lot of traded ruckamn is hte thing that stands out there. 7 out of 16.

Only 6 with there first club that picked them.

2 zone, 1 father son.

Does this mean that you can get a ruckman cheap from another club when he is a ready made player or are you better off just trying to farm through your draft picks?
 
Yes, there certainly are alot of traded rucks.
But there is a difference between just rucks and premiership ruckmen.

Let's have a look at the premiership ruckmen to see who was traded.

2005 - Sydney - Ball & Jolly - yes
2004 - Port Ade - Lade & Brogan - no
2001/2/3 - Brisbane - Keating, Charman & McDonald - no
2000 - Essendon - Barnes - yes, Alessio - no
1996/0 - McKernan & Capuano - no
1997/8 - Rehn - no
1987/95 - J.Madden - yes
1992/4 - Irving & Ball - no, Harding - yes
1993 - Alessio & Somerville - no
1986/88/89/91 - Dear & Dear - no
1990 - Manson - no
1984/5 - S.Madden - no
1983 - Byrne -yes, Paton - no
1979/81/82 - W.Jones - yes, Fitzpatrick - no, P.Jones - no
1980 - Lee - no
1976/8 - Walter, Scott, Jones & Paton - no
1977 - Keenan - yes
1975 - Nolan - no
1973/4 - Roberts, Green & Balme - no
1972 - P.Jones - no
1971 - Scott - no

So 25 years of ruckmen.
Certainly a mixture.
The gist I get is that nearly all the truly great ruckmen who made a long term contributions to their club came from that club. Justin Madden was the only exception, but he was traded as a boy.
The traded ruckman only stayed 2, mabe 3, years at their premiership club, to fill a hole.

From this, my feeling is that we should be nurturing 2 or 3 junior ruckmen, with the hope that possibly 2 of them come on.
When the Tiges are a real chance for a premiership, but may have a hole in the ruck, that's the time to trade.
Of course, with the J.Madden precedent, you can trade to get a junior ruckman.
 
As always intresting Phanto
Of the trades Clark traded for pick 6 and 21,French pick 16,Everitt pick 6 an 22,White 2 an 18,Simo was swapped for a player twice :hihi,Ackland was drafted but Brooks traded for pick 6 an 31,Jolly for pick 15,you could through Otto in there as well picks 12 an 16.Trading is changing but looks like if you trade for a ruckman you pay over the odds
 
Wouldn't kill us to have a Knobel for Staff in and out. I think Simmo is better off sitting in a pocket resting, and swapping Knobel into the Ruck. Otherwise, it might be an alright time to use Patto. Surely it's better getting those type of stats from a kid than a guy in his twilight.
 
Sick of ruckmen just droping the ball at there feet.
Wish they would hit it long and hard, change it up we are getting killed in close.
 
Time for Stafford to hang up his boots.After a good 1st up effort against lions he has been deplorable ever since.
 
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