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Salary Cap

zippadeee

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What's going on?
Collingwood are allowed to clear the decks to get under the cap.
Then today i read Stkilda and WC are asking their players to take pay cuts. WTF.
If Stkilda are over the cap, they shouldn't be given an out.
What is Gilligan running?
I Thought Demitriupoo was shocking this bloke is worse.
Who does Stkilda thing they're? The new Carlton
 
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tigers1980

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What's going on?
Collingwood are allowed to clear the decks to get under the cap.
Then today i read Stkilda and WC are asking their players to take pay cuts. WTF.
If Stkilda are over the cap, they shouldn't be given an out.
What is Gilligan running?
I Thought Demitriupoo was shocking this bloke is worse.
Who does Stkilda thing they're? The new Carlton
Maybe he's just auditioning for the Crown Board.
 
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The Big Richo

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If Stkilda are over the cap, they shouldn't be given an out.

You can't be over the cap in any given year unless you actively cheat. All playing contracts are signed off by the AFL so if you try to sign off on a total amount that will exceed the TPP in your worst case scenario (or best case football talent wise) then they will pick it up and not allow it. What this is about is future TPP margins.

The AFL has instructed each club to shave 3.5% from the cap. Clubs can do that in lots of ways but depending on their list structure and needs going forward, that may cause issues going forward if they have bigger contracts to come or younger players needing a rise when a contract ends.

So I'm guessing the likes of West Coast and St Kilda will have said we can take the 3.5% this year, but next year we will have a serious squeeze because we are anticipating needing to free up this amount for new contracts. So we could take 7% this year and free the space or otherwise we will have to lose some players next year we would rather keep.
 
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MB78

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Dry We keep things like this very low key out of the media these days. I would be surprised if we haven’t already addressed this with the players. We are best placed than any other club to deal with this. You just hand over the three premiership cups to our big name premiership players and allow them to do several sportsman nights meeting fans, photo ops and signing stuff.
 
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zippadeee

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Dry We keep things like this very low key out of the media these days. I would be surprised if we haven’t already addressed this with the players. We are best placed than any other club to deal with this. You just hand over the three premiership cups to our big name premiership players and allow them to do several sportsman nights meeting fans, photo ops and signing stuff.
Big contracts coming up for Balta Bolton and Castagna.
Cotchin and Riewodlt most likely will make way.
Our kids are supreme.
 

The Big Richo

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We are best placed than any other club to deal with this. You just hand over the three premiership cups to our big name premiership players and allow them to do several sportsman nights meeting fans, photo ops and signing stuff.

Unfortunately it's not that easy. Anything facilitated by the club is either counted in the TPP or the marketing allowance so 'extra' income has to be via third party deals signed off on by the AFL.
 

Jonesracing82

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If St Kilda have a tight cap they are in all sorts. WCE having a tight cap isn't a surprise given they have an ageing list & sold the farm to get Kelly in.

I thought you could go over 1 yr (a set % limit) providing you go under by the same amount the yr after, i could be wrong on that tho.
 

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If St Kilda have a tight cap they are in all sorts. WCE having a tight cap isn't a surprise given they have an ageing list & sold the farm to get Kelly in.

I thought you could go over 1 yr (a set % limit) providing you go under by the same amount the yr after, i could be wrong on that tho.
The saints might have to let go a player or two. Maybe we can swoop on a couple of kids with potential..Butler and Higgins look promising
 
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MB78

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Unfortunately it's not that easy. Anything facilitated by the club is either counted in the TPP or the marketing allowance so 'extra' income has to be via third party deals signed off on by the AFL.
The players and Hardwick have had numerous functions organised by third parties with opportunities to meet the players and see the club. They haven’t been organised by the club. The club just allows them to use the cups. Our premiership players in particular have more opportunities to earn extra than players who are from less successful and smaller clubs. You see all the events on Facebook Richmond supporter group pages.
 

mrposhman

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Big contracts coming up for Balta Bolton and Castagna.
Cotchin and Riewodlt most likely will make way.
Our kids are supreme.

I don't think Balta will get a massive contract next time around. He's already had 1 extension so salary isn't a 1st year player any longer.

Bolton is the big one, will easily be offered $600-650k IMO by Freo to head back west. Might be able to keep him for a bit less, but I assume that will be a sizeable increase from his current contract. The last 2 years he has gone to another level and I expect him to do the same in 2021 again.
 

The Big Richo

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The players and Hardwick have had numerous functions organised by third parties with opportunities to meet the players and see the club. They haven’t been organised by the club. The club just allows them to use the cups. Our premiership players in particular have more opportunities to earn extra than players who are from less successful and smaller clubs. You see all the events on Facebook Richmond supporter group pages.

They definitely have opportunities from sponsors etc as successful players but I think you will find those supporter functions are done as fundraisers for the supporter groups as a goodwill gesture. I can't see any way they could argue an appearance like that wasn't directly related to the footy club, especially when they have the cup there. That good for footy thing is a paid appearance but done on a third party basis.

Otherwise the revenue is the club's and the players can be paid from the marketing allowance which all clubs have. You can top players up a certain amount from that, things like young guys doing footy clinics or guys appearing in merchandise catalogues. Like when the young squad was Brando's Buddies. Easy way to give Brandon Ellis a boost when he was starting to play good footy and on a smaller contract.
 

TigerMasochist

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I thought you could go over 1 yr (a set % limit) providing you go under by the same amount the yr after, i could be wrong on that tho.
Wrong way round.
First you have to pay less than the full cap allowance, which you can then bank and utilize to top up in the following year.
Still have to pay the minimum cap 95% so it only allows for a modest top up which allows you to go to 105% the next year.

If the maximum cap is at $ 13mill, you could pay about $ 12.3 mill in 2020 n then bump it to about $ 13 .7 mill in 2021 which would allow you flexibility to cover for contract adjustment as your list structure changes.

Wet Coke n St. Kiddenme must have seen difficulties coming up to make some fair sized adjustments.
Poor Colonwood musta been trying to surf a tsunami with the way they went about it :eek: :)) n then the *smile* really hit the fan :rotfl1:rotfl1.
 
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Jonesracing82

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Wrong way round.
First you have to pay less than the full cap allowance, which you can then bank and utilize to top up in the following year.
Still have to pay the minimum cap 95% so it only allows for a modest top up which allows you to go to 105% the next year.

If the maximum cap is at $ 13mill, you could pay about $ 12.3 mill in 2020 n then bump it to about $ 13 .7 mill in 2021 which would allow you flexibility to cover for contract adjustment as your list structure changes.

Wet Coke n St. Kiddenme must have seen difficulties coming up to make some fair sized adjustments.
Poor Colonwood musta been trying to surf a tsunami with the way they went about it :eek: :)) n then the *smile* really hit the fan :rotfl1:rotfl1.
Cheers for the correction, given out OOC list we are in a great spot, along with our draft haul to restructure our TPP for the future.