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Sam Lloyd
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About right. I'm a massive fan of Sammy because he just loves a goal but lacks the pace for our game style. As others suggest its been a win win
Lloyd would not have got the opportunities in the grand final that Castagna largely created for himself. Lloyd is incapable of applying the defensive pressure we require from our small forwards, hence he was out the door. George is twice the player in our system.
Yeh, sure Sammy is a better shot for goal and has more composure when in possession but that's about where it ends. George gets to and creates contests not many can or would. And creates chances as you say that others wouldn't. And is gonna get better! George is my sneaky tip for the AA 40 next year.
Amazing what happened between 2016 and 2017.Pretty sure Sammy’s big game just started on fox.
This forward line from 2016 contains Griffiths , Vickery, Hampson, Menadue, Ellis C ......surprising we didn’t win the flag that year
As you say the 2016 side v Sydney had the guys You mentioned PLUS Miles, Chaplin, Batchelor and Hunt.
You look at those names and it screams VFL side!
That’s what held Sam back at Richmond, unless you apply massive pressure as a forward you don’t get picked. Castagna does that but there is no doubt that Lloyd is a better ball user
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Makes Dimma look better with his H&A record the previous 3 years and then obviously the next 3 years were totally different cattle
Cotchin and Houli were on the sidelines for that game, and Griffens did kick 5.
There would be hundreds worse than Tyrone. He had many faults but 125 games and 160 goals puts him ahead of most players.
On Sammy Lloyd, I'm stoked he's having such a good career at the Dogs. He's a champ.
The main difference between 2016 and 2017, 18,19 was Caracalla's game plan.
My thinking has changed since we won the 2017 flag. It use to hurt me when our players left for other clubs.
But now, it's quite different. Seeing Townsend go is sad, but I reflect on his best performance in 2017, he will always be part of that wonderful 2017 team. Sadly he doesn't quite fit in, now my attitude is we need new blood to ensure Richmond continue to develop and grow, we thank Townsend and others who have help, wish them well and look towards our mighty future.
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A few other pieces to the puzzle arrived 2017 too, I’d caution giving him all the credit, Emma Murray and dusty , Balmey , leppa returning , I could go on
Zips didn't engage cognitive faculties before posting that.
Peeps used to claim McBeano was better than Vickery too. Objectively false by any measure you like.
Yes it’s far more complicated that just Caracella. It’s pretty well documented that there was a decision to let the players play with more freedom, to release the shackles. How that was implemented was clearly influenced by Caracella and he was clearly part of a change in the way we played as midfield coach but to attribute it all to him would be overstating his role.
In anything that I have read or heard on the 2017 pre season there were multiple influences
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