Scapegoat Theory & its relevance to the RFC.

[IanG]

And if a transparent post-season review of the RFC's 2007 isn't going to be announced and held shortly, well I might start to throw a stone or two, but it won't be at anybody else but that small group of gentlemen who actually lead the RFC.

Remember, the fish rots from the head.

Good post. About a review I think you might be disappointed, wouldn't such a review have been announced by now if it was going to occur? March's comments at the b&f seem to indicate they are drawing a line in the sand at this year and that such a review would occur if the results don't improve next year.

 

[Mr Brightside]

Good to see you put some of the facts up Phanto an good to see your well put argument Claw.

But this is where I have an issue with the whinging that go's on here,not once have I ever had a problem getting a straight answer from Miller or Stevie Wright or Gary March weather it be at Club80 or the footy Vfl/AFL any RFC function they have always answered my questions with a straight answer an not just telling me what I want to hear.
If you have an issue, go about it in a professional way an they will treat you with the respect a RFC member desreves,if people want to make a difference there's always plenty you can do as a volenteer,I know I have got some great expierences from volenteering my time

 

[RedanTiger]

Phantom, I'd add another to your list of questions.

What are the football department KPI's and what are the methods of measurement and current levels?

We were told previously by Wallace that he had KPI's in place and that they were confidential or commercial-in-confidence. I do not accept that reason and he should inform the shareholders.

 

[Freezer]

Phantom, this should have been your first post in the thread. I'd like to know some of these answers as well. All that "scapegoat" talk is just rubbish. The questions you have posed, when answered and addressed, will improve the RFC.

If the scapegoating talk is rubbish, then please explain the message under your avatar.
"You can't hurt us anymore, Miller...!"
Which Miller do you mean? Frosty, Brad ?

Funky Colin actually.

Greg Miller's not a scapegoat - he's a major contributing factor to the lack of quality height and strength in our team and for what I perceived to be a bad choice in swapping pick 19 for McMahon - others will disagree.

Is he our Football Manager? List Manager? Board Member? Team Spokesman? I'm not sure what his actual role is. If Francis Jackson is our Recruiting Manager, what's the point of Miller?

1. Who is making the list management decisions?
2. Does the recruiting department have too much/not enough say?
3. Does the coaching dep't have too much/not enough say?
4. Is the Richmond list happy with the leadership shown at the club?
5. How do the players feel about each of the coaching group?
6. Why did our Coburg coach, who took a team of early season "no-hopers" into a grand final, decide to leave us to go to a 2nd rate SANFL club?
7. Was there a covert terminal disagreement between our AFL & VFL coaches, and what was done to resolve the issue trying to avoid termination?

These are excellent questions and ones I'd be happy to know the answer to.

In is incumbent upon the management of the RFC to put in place & stand by measures that will see our club improve.

I don't think GM is necessarily doing this and so don't see him as a scapegoat but a contributing factor to our current plight.

 

[Tigers of Old]

1. Who is making the list management decisions?
2. Does the recruiting department have too much/not enough say?
3. Does the coaching dep't have too much/not enough say?
4. Is the Richmond list happy with the leadership shown at the club?
5. How do the players feel about each of the coaching group?
6. Why did our Coburg coach, who took a team of early season "no-hopers" into a grand final, decide to leave us to go to a 2nd rate SANFL club?
7. Was there a covert terminal disagreement between our AFL & VFL coaches, and what was done to resolve the issue trying to avoid termination?

And if a transparent post-season review of the RFC's 2007 isn't going to be announced and held shortly, well I might start to throw a stone or two, but it won't be at anybody else but that small group of gentlemen who actually lead the RFC.

Spot on phantom.
I think most of us would like to know the answer to these questions.

What is the future direction of the club?

Currently that is extremely unclear in the wake of this season.

 

[Col.E.Kurtz]

I don't need public KPIs, or reviews, but it would be good to know that they happened.

The last thing the board needs to do is panic now, after being so professorial during the season from hell and start making head roll.

Sure, review responsibilities, get the right people doing the right jobs, but don't start calling sheedy or starting public board coups.

 

[Azza]

1. Who is making the list management decisions?
2. Does the recruiting department have too much/not enough say?
3. Does the coaching dep't have too much/not enough say?
4. Is the Richmond list happy with the leadership shown at the club?
5. How do the players feel about each of the coaching group?
6. Why did our Coburg coach, who took a team of early season "no-hopers" into a grand final, decide to leave us to go to a 2nd rate SANFL club?
7. Was there a covert terminal disagreement between our AFL & VFL coaches, and what was done to resolve the issue trying to avoid termination?

Interesting questions. Are you suggesting they be addressed in some sort of internal review process? Because I can't see them being answered honestly to outside parties, RFC members or not. Even if the questions were asked, we're unlikely to hear the answers.

It seems absolutely amazing to me that any organisation with a budget in the order of millions of dollars can so completely fail in it's primary objective as to come last in a competition, yet no internal review be triggered. Talk of a line in the sand is completely meaningless. It implies that people just need to put in greater effort and everything will be fine. It ignores the possibility that there may be fundamental structural reasons for failure, that will not be overcome by people 'pulling the finger out'.

I'm not saying there is such a problem, but the possibility HAS to be investigated. Given our problem with perceptions of turning on our own, I wouldn't even expect the results of such a review to be made public. But I would expect terms of reference of the review to be made public.

 

[RemoteTiger]

I "wanna" now:
1. Who is making the list management decisions?
2. Does the recruiting department have too much/not enough say?
3. Does the coaching dep't have too much/not enough say?
4. Is the Richmond list happy with the leadership shown at the club?
5. How do the players feel about each of the coaching group?
6. Why did our Coburg coach, who took a team of early season "no-hopers" into a grand final, decide to leave us to go to a 2nd rate SANFL club?
7. Was there a covert terminal disagreement between our AFL & VFL coaches, and what was done to resolve the issue trying to avoid termination?

Excellent questions - if I may I would like to add a question -

8. Who is in charge of player development and to what extent is that development merged with the demands of the the coaching department?


That whilst many of us on here have had the proverbial gut full of poor draft choices and recruiting the truth really lies in a vast majority of our recruits have had the necessary capabilities to be successful AFL players but they have not been developed, mentored or simply instructed correctly.

I'm as one-eyed and arden Tiger as you will get - but I cringe for the kid whose name is read out next to the RFC in the national draft. (do you think Franklin would have been as good a footballer as he is now had our (then non-existent) development department got their hands on him? or What could the Hawks development department done with the talent of Lids &/or Bling?)

Recruiting has let us down but no where to the degree of our player development department! IMO.

 

[Tigers of Old]

But I would expect terms of reference of the review to be made public.

That's just it right there.
When Geelong did their review in 06, the results weren't there for all to see at the time but it obviously had a big impact on their performances in '07 when home truths were put out there.

Terry harps on about following the Geelong model, well how about we follow what they did last season at the end of an unacceptable result?

Mediocrity is no longer accepted? What are we doing to improve it?


When is the football department review happening Miller & Wallace?

 

[Six Pack]

What we need is a whiteboard in the sheds and during pre-season the fellas who can do the most push ups and who turn up on time and who have the rights socks and who have paid their subs all get points and every week we can see who is doing best and then come the first round we pick our side from the top 22 players on the whiteboard.

That'll be a good indicator of how we are going!