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Scott Lucas injured
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Someone mentioned(I think Redford) in another thread that they'd like to see Jack Riewoldt developed into a Scott Lucas type role.
I am not sure Jack's got the height or mass to make that possible but it would be a dream result and should be Wallace's goal.
Lucas has been superb for the Dons throughout his career. They will miss him terribly over the coming weeks.
I am not sure Jack's got the height or mass to make that possible but it would be a dream result and should be Wallace's goal.
Lucas has been superb for the Dons throughout his career. They will miss him terribly over the coming weeks.
Tigers of Old said:
i wouldn't say superb throughout his carrer oldie, i know essendon fans in his early yrs used to bag the crap out of him for being to soft, as he has matured mentally and physically he has become a very good footballer, big loss for the dons for the next 3 months.
Disco08 said:
Is that right? Lucas plays above it then.
Get Jack some Scotty Lucas DVDs Terry!
AstuteTiger said:
I could never understand why the Bumbers fans bagged him.
They were winning everything early in his career and he would have been a gun at most clubs that didn't have their firepower.
He's always been in the shadow of some absolute champions but he's been a terrific player in his own right.
Looks pretty darn consistant to me.
http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/pc-essendon-bombers--scott-lucas
Funny thing is the consensus that seems to be forming is that Lucas is a slow poke yet from my memory he takes the majority of his marks out on the long lead. Maybe he just reads the play better than his opponents (something Jack can claim as a strength?) and most importantly is a freakishly good shot for goal from anywhere on the 50m ark.
True enough Disco.Disco08 said:
Lucas's greatest strength has always been his ability to play forward or back as required. Super utility.
A team can't have too many of that type but the good ones are as rare as hen's teeth.
Jack should be being groomed similarly and he can start at CHB for Coburg.
Disco08 said:
Can't catch over his head. Brisk enough on the lead, though isn't he Disco? Jack would be in big strife keeping up.
I reckon his best footy (and he's played plenty of good) was at CHB because he was able to be a more rounded player (very like Bradshaw in this respect). He won the b&f there but missed AA IIRC.
He is massively strong over the ball (a big help on the lead if you're not sizzling, in fact any time). Will stand up in a tackle and can carry a bloke and the ball at the same time. His strength and shothouse rat smarts are the reason he can keep getting on the left (compare with Dew who uses strength and turn-on-a-dime).
BTW the bummer fans hate it when he will not lay the ball off (has a strict policy not to) and he has some shockers in front of goal albeit a long way from goal. Furthermore he can go missing in big games because he has no aerial game as such.
Like so many champion CHBs he's too talented for the position. And like so many flawed CHFs he's too good to play anywhere else.
(Was a regular and damaging senior player at 19. JR is a ways behind.)
Certainly seems to be JD. The games he's turned off his own boot (when playing forward, that I've seen) have all come about through patches where his kicking is white hot and every forward thrust goes to him out around 50 and beyond. Obviously he (nor anyone else in history) can sustain this type of performance but when he's on he's virtually unstoppable and ultimately damaging.
Tigers of Old said:
He only had one bad patch and that was early 2002 before he was shifted to CHB mid way through.
Started off as ruck in 1997 with Alessio/Somerville injured
Played for Victoria as CHF in 1998
Broke his leg in 1999 and played in a premiership in 2000 kicking 50 goals.
Became known as a very good finals player from 2001-04 being Bombers best in 01 Grand Final.
IMO is better CHF as has a strong set of hands on the lead in front, not a great pack mark second in line nor does he wrestle his opponent for the mark like Richo.
Is a true damaging CHF that can hurt you outside 50 with long goals and long passes to Lloyd or deep atttacks inside this area. No reason for him to handpass when he can put deep in the fwd line.
Disco08 said:
Lucas built his early career on his outside game. (And being blue bearded was almost certainly much more forward physically than Norse Jack - not that that is the main difference between them.) And it surprised me when I began to notice how tough and strong he was in collisions and packs. This was a mid career development.
Jack hasn't built an early career to date because he can't find the space for his outside game and is pretty much an inside player anyway - albeit a baby (another reason). When his outside game matures he'll be in the ones I reckon.
But it doesn't look like he'll grow much from here, does it? Lucas plays as if he's high nineties kg. Jack plays like he's high seventies. Normally white eyebrows = very late developer.
Fantastic summary, MK. And yeah, Knighter, very valuable player at CHF because he clears space behind him. But there have been plenty of times when he should have laid it off. Daffy-like stuff. ;D He's got a lot better at that.
No doubt because of the education at CHB. That's where Jack should play a year if not a career.
Disco08 said:
Im assuming you mean Jack Riewoldt. Honestly I think Jack does not have the pace to be a Scott Lucas type. Riewoldt is more suited to a forward pocket. From what I have seen he does not have the pace to play up the ground but I could be wrong.
Hughes looks more like an up the ground forward IMO