Shane Edwards

[Disco08]

Can't believe the Edwards love SCOOP.

Yeah I remember the match as well, it was a pearler.

In his entire career Edwards has 7 games that rated marginally higher than Tambling's 2009 average. Smart arse replies are fun though, keep 'em coming.

 

[Scoop]

Can't believe the Edwards love SCOOP.

Me neither. Turnover merchant by foot. Legs like anorexic musk sticks and just too light.

 

[spook]

Oh not you to. I hate the "I'm so much cleverer than you" wink. Hate it. AH well.

Actually Disco, it was a "we know we disagree, but at least we agree that we disagree" wink. Don't be so sensitive.

So I assume you disagree with the statement that our biggest concern this year has been gifting goals to the opposition from turnovers. Do you think it's a problem at all? Do you think Edwards is one of the contributors to this problem?

I know it's only stats, but we could go round and round with opinions alone, but Tambling had 3 seasons in a row averaging rankings of 40+, with a high of 53. Edwards' best is 40, achieved last year. This year he's averaging 34 although it'd be about 40 again if you considered the game he left after 1 minute and the other game he was the sub.

Finally if Edwards is always in and under winning his own ball, how the hell is he 16th for contested possessions, 12th for first use and 17th for winning his own ball?

Sintiger, aside from the game against Sydney where he started well but went quiet after the head knock, Hislop won the ball at a similar rate to what Edwards does, despite playing a role less suited to high disposal games. In that time he didn't kick it straight to the opposition once while Edwards did so 9 times.

What do those rankings mean? 40+, 53, 34... what do they signify? I am not saying Edwards is a flawless player. I have said his shanks are costly, but if you can't see his handball is creative there is no point continuing. And I don't know how they decide what a contested possession is but I see Edwards win plenty of ball in congested situations - not bottom of the pack but what I'd call in tight - and create space. Again, if you don't see that there's not much more to talk about.

And unlike Tambling he doesn't choose his moments to go, runs hard, doesn't amble along with no intensity, and doesn't blame others for his own shortcomings. Tambling is a more skilled player, at least by foot, but Edwards is a better player.

 

[Fighting Fury]

Overdue for a monfries-like breakout game is Edwards...

 

[Tigers of Old]

Can't believe the Edwards love SCOOP.

So you obviously think Hardwick is a fool. :spin

 

[GoodOne]

Can't believe the Edwards love SCOOP.

Yet the Disco Tambling love lives on....lol, or how about the Hislop love, alot of things are hard to believe on here.

In his entire career Edwards has 7 games that rated marginally higher than Tambling's 2009 average. Smart arse replies are fun though, keep 'em coming.

Disco, we know your historic love for Tambling makes it hard for you to be unbias. Your views on this matter are pointless. Tambling's 2009 average was based on probably 7 games. What has he done since? Struggling to get a game for the struggling Adelaide Crows. Edwards has some signifcant weaknesses but I have never seen hm jog his way around the ground doing nothing like Tambling does.

 

[Tigers of Old]

Yet the Disco Tambling love lives on....lol, or how about the Hislop love, alot of things are hard to believe on here.

Disco, we know your historic love for Tambling makes it hard for you to be unbias. Your views on this matter are pointless. Tambling's 2009 average was based on probably 7 games. What has he done since? Struggling to get a game for the struggling Adelaide Crows. Edwards has some signifcant weaknesses but I have never seen hm jog his way around the ground doing nothing like Tambling does.

Spot on Goodies.

 

[U2Tigers]

Knows where to be and what to do. hands are good in close.

But noone can deny his kicking has been sub-standard required.

His cringeworthy is ...... well cringeworthy.

A shame, I really though we had a future player on our hands, who knows, maybe he can turn it around.

 

[Disco08]

Actually Disco, it was a "we know we disagree, but at least we agree that we disagree" wink. Don't be so sensitive.

OK, sorry. I just really hate that wink, lol.

And unlike Tambling he doesn't choose his moments to go, runs hard, doesn't amble along with no intensity, and doesn't blame others for his own shortcomings. Tambling is a more skilled player, at least by foot, but Edwards is a better player.

Agreed, Edwards is a much better player than Tambling at this point. Tambling is patently useless due to being one of the bigger sooks to ever play AFL.

What do those rankings mean? 40+, 53, 34... what do they signify? I am not saying Edwards is a flawless player. I have said his shanks are costly, but if you can't see his handball is creative there is no point continuing. And I don't know how they decide what a contested possession is but I see Edwards win plenty of ball in congested situations - not bottom of the pack but what I'd call in tight - and create space. Again, if you don't see that there's not much more to talk about.

Fair enough. I'm not saying he doesn't do these things at all, just that I don't think it's a strength or that he does is repeatedly during games.

The ratings are pro-stats ratings, ie weighted stats to reflect what they see as game influencing actions. Good disposal and winning your own ball figure highly. As a measure they seem to identify the best players year in year out.

As I also said, Edwards is 17th for ball gets at the Tiges this year. That's the most telling stat for ball winners along with 1st possessions, another area he ranks lowly in.

 

[Disco08]

So you obviously think Hardwick is a fool. :spin

Yeah, I think he's contradicting the "no bad kicks" mantra at least. Maybe they think they can turn that around though because he does have good pace and can get himself into dangerous positions. If only he could finish consistently he's be a valuable player.

I'm confised by a few things Beavis is doing, but I know enogh to know that I'm probably not seeing all the angles so I'm happy to keep the faith for a while longer yet.

Yet the Disco Tambling love lives on....lol, or how about the Hislop love, alot of things are hard to believe on here.

Disco, we know your historic love for Tambling makes it hard for you to be unbias. Your views on this matter are pointless.

Some of the more childish posting I've seen for a while. Good to know we can discuss things in a mature, friendly manner.

Tambling's 2009 average was based on probably 7 games. What has he done since? Struggling to get a game for the struggling Adelaide Crows. Edwards has some signifcant weaknesses but I have never seen hm jog his way around the ground doing nothing like Tambling does.

Agree with that. Tambling at his worst makes him the worst player in the AFL bar none. Petulant sulking has no place in professional sport. That's why I'm only arguing his best is better than Edwards' best. When Tambling was switched on he played some very good footy. The stats show it clearly, as do the votes from PRE'ers at the time.

Tambling's 2009 average is based on the 20 games he played that year.

 

[GoodOne]

Some of the more childish posting I've seen for a while. Good to know we can discuss things in a mature, friendly manner.

lol, coming from you?

Agree with that. Tambling at his worst makes him the worst player in the AFL bar none. Petulant sulking has no place in professional sport. That's why I'm only arguing his best is better than Edwards' best. When Tambling was switched on he played some very good footy. The stats show it clearly, as do the votes from PRE'ers at the time.

At the same age, 22yo, Edwards stats are actually better than Tambling's. I agree though the couple of times in his career that Tambling played well (predominantly off the backline) he looked very good. But I can say exactly the same for Edwards. Arguing who's best is better is pointless when you rarely produce your best.

 

[Disco08]

lol, coming from you?

Yep.

At the same age, 22yo, Edwards stats are actually better than Tambling's. I agree though the couple of times in his career that Tambling played well (predominantly off the backline) he looked very good. But I can say exactly the same for Edwards. Arguing who's best is better is pointless when you rarely produce your best.

Tambling's 22 year old season was 2009, which was clearly better than any season to date for Edwards. His 23 and 24 year old seasons are the pathetic ones, although he does have 30 kicks to advantage as opposed to 1 to the opposition this year. If only Edwards was so sure by foot.

You accuse me of letting history cloud my judgment, but if you're still trotting out the "couple of times he played well" line, it's clearly you that's letting bias cloud your judgment.

 

[Stuart]

This bloke looks no better on TV!

 

[Razorgang]

Fair dinkum, I am him sick of this guys disposal. Does not matter wether by hand or foot, it is absolute crap. Saw him unable to hit a chest from 10 metres.
Sorry but have had enough!!

 

[Joe Lynn Turnip]

Edwards in a nutshell - early in the second quarter - takes a good mark..then kicks it four metres , fellow player luckily cleans it up, Edwards gets it back, evades a player, then tries to evade three players, get's caught htb when it should be deep in our 50. Turnover results in opposition goal that gives them the momentum for the quarter

No more excuses for this waste of a senior spot. Drop, trade, delist, whatever - just get rid of him.

 

[Stuart]

Agree with above.
This guy is not an AFL footballers butthole.

 

[GoodOne]

Tambling's 22 year old season was 2009, which was clearly better than any season to date for Edwards. His 23 and 24 year old seasons are the pathetic ones, although he does have 30 kicks to advantage as opposed to 1 to the opposition this year. If only Edwards was so sure by foot.

You accuse me of letting history cloud my judgment, but if you're still trotting out the "couple of times he played well" line, it's clearly you that's letting bias cloud your judgment.

I am comparing the age of Edwards last full season which was 2010. Tambling's equivalent year was 2008 (in fact Tambling 1 month older). At that stage Edwards's stats were better than Tambling's. Really doesn't say much for your argument does it? You can trot out all the stats you like on Tambling, the raw fact is at 24 he's struggling to get a game at a struggling Adelaide. Last night he managed 4 possessions in a whole half. Nothing has changed. Again I don't care about the best of a player when they can rarely achieve that goal.

I don't have the bias you have of Tambling. It's very well documented. I gave Tambling plenty of time and foolishly supported him for quite a while. So no clouding of judgement from me, the actual history says it all. I don't expect any level headed arguments when it comes to Tambling. You were arguing for him till the very end of his days at the Tigers eben wilst he was still failing to try when on the ground. There's no bigger sin then that.

 

[Tiger29]

Useless. And he has a few mates

 

[Collo]

Get rid of him in any way. If that is by a trade, delisting, the mafia...whatever.

 

[Disco08]

I am comparing the age of Edwards last full season which was 2010. Tambling's equivalent year was 2008 (in fact Tambling 1 month older). At that stage Edwards's stats were better than Tambling's. Really doesn't say much for your argument does it? You can trot out all the stats you like on Tambling, the raw fact is at 24 he's struggling to get a game at a struggling Adelaide. Last night he managed 4 possessions in a whole half. Nothing has changed. Again I don't care about the best of a player when they can rarely achieve that goal.

I don't have the bias you have of Tambling. It's very well documented. I gave Tambling plenty of time and foolishly supported him for quite a while. So no clouding of judgement from me, the actual history says it all. I don't expect any level headed arguments when it comes to Tambling. You were arguing for him till the very end of his days at the Tigers eben wilst he was still failing to try when on the ground. There's no bigger sin then that.

Mistakenly thinking a guy might be injured instead of actually being a sook is a sin? You really take this too seriously. I've admitted he's a complete waste of time and that I was wrong about him, what more do you want?

If you want to compare both players at the same age, why not compare Edwards' year this year to Tambling's 5th year? That's the most relevant, surely.

Even comparing their 4th years it's basically even. Given most considered Tambling a bit underwhemling to that point, what does that say about Edwards?