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Shane Edwards

Leysy Days said:
Yep big question marks on FJ with good picks taking Edwards & Post. Big ????

Which is a big worry when there is not one more important man at our club than him considering how hard we are going to have to go at the drafts considering the state of our list.

A big concern is FJ ILO.

I don't expect him to have a 100% strike rate, just wish he had had more shots in those years.
 
I might be on my own here but I believe Edwards has all the tools to make it and be a top player. His main downfall is that he shyts himself when under pressure and most of that pressure comes from himself. He will do something magic and then completely stuff it up by trying to hit someone on the tit when all he has to do is put the leather out in front of someone for them to get. When he is balanced, there are no problems but when he is not he falls away to his left and drags the pill that way, every shot on goal misses to the left,

Disposing of the ball is the obvious main criteria to this great game and this is his biggest downfall. He can run, chase, tackle, mark and do everything else except hit a damn target. I would stick him in the FP for the rest of the season (alogside Kingy) and tell him to create as much pressure as possible and if he gets the pill, take his time as he is super elusive and if he gets caught, *smile* happens. If it works, his trade value might go up or he might stay and have found his role as I believe he would play this role better than Matty White.
 
Leysy Days said:
Yep big question marks on FJ with good picks taking Edwards & Post. Big ????

Which is a big worry when there is not one more important man at our club than him considering how hard we are going to have to go at the drafts considering the state of our list.

A big concern is FJ ILO.

The problem there Leysy is that even the best recruiters don't get every pick right. Now I don't know if FJ can recruit or not but unfortunately you only find out after a number of years. We can let FJ go but then what if next year the vast majority of his picks (highly unlikely I know) blossom into top end talent? But then how many years can we give him as well?

Stephen Wells wasn't looking too good when Geelong were conducting their review with Bomber Thompson in '06 but now he's a genius.

I don't know. It's a tough one.
 
ARCHYBOY said:
I might be on my own here but I believe Edwards has all the tools to make it and be a top player. His main downfall is that he shyts himself when under pressure and most of that pressure comes from himself. He will do something magic and then completely stuff it up by trying to hit someone on the tit when all he has to do is put the leather out in front of someone for them to get. When he is balanced, there are no problems but when he is not he falls away to his left and drags the pill that way, every shot on goal misses to the left,

Disposing of the ball is the obvious main criteria to this great game and this is his biggest downfall. He can run, chase, tackle, mark and do everything else except hit a damn target. I would stick him in the FP for the rest of the season (alogside Kingy) and tell him to create as much pressure as possible and if he gets the pill, take his time as he is super elusive and if he gets caught, sh!t happens. If it works, his trade value might go up or he might stay and have found his role as I believe he would play this role better than Matty White.

Yes Arcyboy, godo work. Totally agree. I think this disposal problem can be fixed. I dont remember it being anywhere near as bad last year as it has been this year. I see the value in him.
 
T-Shirt Tommy said:
The problem there Leysy is that even the best recruiters don't get every pick right. Now I don't know if FJ can recruit or not but unfortunately you only find out after a number of years. We can let FJ go but then what if next year the vast majority of his picks (highly unlikely I know) blossom into top end talent? But then how many years can we give him as well?

Stephen Wells wasn't looking too good when Geelong were conducting their review with Bomber Thompson in '06 but now he's a genius.

I don't know. It's a tough one.

Agree on recruiters not getting every pickright T-Shirt. FJ has been in the gig for a number of years now. On board for his 7th draft this year. Probably just a pass overall in that time. Just. From where we are tough we need to be better than that. Hopefully his more recent picks can swing that ledger in his favour.

Disagree on Wells. Completely. Was very highly regarded in the industry before 06' during it & after.
 
Leysy Days said:
Agree on recruiters not getting every pickright T-Shirt. FJ has been in the gig for a number of years now. On board for his 7th draft this year. Probably just a pass overall in that time. Just. From where we are tough we need to be better than that. Hopefully his more recent picks can swing that ledger in his favour.

Disagree on Wells. Completely. Was very highly regarded in the industry before 06' during it & after.

I get the impression that under the Wallace years, FJ was required to simply hand in reports which were largely ignored. Seemed to me Wallace and Miller felt they knew better.
 
Streak said:
I get the impression that under the Wallace years, FJ was required to simply hand in reports which were largely ignored. Seemed to me Wallace and Miller felt they knew better.

FAr be it for leysy to stick up for Wallet as he hates him. But he rarely interfered at draft time.

Our own CC who sat in on our draft table can clarify that.
 
shawry said:
Yes Arcyboy, godo work. Totally agree. I think this disposal problem can be fixed. I dont remember it being anywhere near as bad last year as it has been this year. I see the value in him.
If I thought his kicking could be fixed I'd keep him too, but I've given up. He has a technical flaw but I'm not sure anyone at the club is aware of it or has tried to fix it. The movement of the ball between right hand and foot is horrendous - covers more ground that Laxland. It's come from being a little bloke trying to get extra distance but his takeaway goes that wide of his body and almost behind him that he'd need a third leg to kick reliably. (Cue Nahas joke.)
 
spook said:
If I thought his kicking could be fixed I'd keep him too, but I've given up. He has a technical flaw but I'm not sure anyone at the club is aware of it or has tried to fix it. The movement of the ball between right hand and foot is horrendous - covers more ground that Laxland. It's come from being a little bloke trying to get extra distance but his takeaway goes that wide of his body and almost behind him that he'd need a third leg to kick reliably. (Cue Nahas joke.)

What-the! great posting........but come on, you noticed something that you are not sure anyone at the Club has noticed? I'm tipping they not only have noticed, but they too grimance just that little bit when it's time - when he......kicks it.

Agree though that he needs to keep working on getting his action compact - he has two, three kicking clangers and they are howlers making them all the more 'memorable' - but other than that, gee his break and spread is as good as any on our list. His assists aren't bad either - don't throw out the baby with the bath-water people..........
 
Here's a tip: If a bloke's making the same schoolboy level mistakes and has the same glaring flaws in his game in his 5th year as he did in his 1st year - he ain't any good and never will be. :thinking
 
Phar Ace said:
What-the! great posting........but come on, you noticed something that you are not sure anyone at the Club has noticed? I'm tipping they not only have noticed, but they too grimance just that little bit when it's time - when he......kicks it.

Agree though that he needs to keep working on getting his action compact - he has two, three kicking clangers and they are howlers making them all the more 'memorable' - but other than that, gee his break and spread is as good as any on our list. His assists aren't bad either - don't throw out the baby with the bath-water people..........
I'm sure someone has noticed it Ace, and I have long been an Edwards defender because of the qualities you mention (my brother calls him 'your boy') - but at some stage a bloke has to kick the ball - and he can't, and after five years I can't see him fixing it.

His first act on Saturday summed him up. Hit the ball hard and with anticipation to mark an opposition kick, saw the opportunity to play on and run inside 50, and kicked a point, as we all knew he would. The way he drops the ball, his leg has to swing across from right to left. His margin for error is tiny, which also sums him up, because he plays footy on a tightrope. He can dance between Tom Scully and the boundary line but then he'll turn it over. I never criticise him for taking the game on, I love that about him - and someone has to do it. If he gets caught every now and then, that's the price you pay for the greater number of times (hopefully) he pulls their pants down. But twinkle toes mean nothing if they kick it back to the bad guys.

There are other guys to go before him and its a weak draft so he'll survive another year.
 
Phar Ace said:
Agree though that he needs to keep working on getting his action compact - he has two, three kicking clangers and they are howlers making them all the more 'memorable' - but other than that, gee his break and spread is as good as any on our list. His assists aren't bad either - don't throw out the baby with the bath-water people..........

Agree. He's 22, haven't given up on him yet.
 
spook said:
If I thought his kicking could be fixed I'd keep him too, but I've given up. He has a technical flaw but I'm not sure anyone at the club is aware of it or has tried to fix it. The movement of the ball between right hand and foot is horrendous - covers more ground that Laxland. It's come from being a little bloke trying to get extra distance but his takeaway goes that wide of his body and almost behind him that he'd need a third leg to kick reliably. (Cue Nahas joke.)

His technical flaw comes from him shtting himself, trying to do to much or not having the confidence to finish the job, in other words the yips.

Go watch training, he wont MISS a target as their is no immediate pressure on him. I would love to see Hardwick say to him this week "Your job is to lay 10 tackles in the first half" and then watch him play a blinder in the second half.
 
Barnzy said:
Don't forget Craig Cameron - the guy that looks after our contracts. Probably up there as one of the most important positions. Didn't he recently re-sign up hacks like McGuane, White, etc?

Hmmm.

Believe he also signed Schulz to a new two year contract before trading for Farmer and late pick (Nason) the next year which meant we picked up part of Jay's payments in his first year at Port.

Have seen mentioned that we have also signed Connors to a new 3 year contract recently.
 
id be playing him in the forward line to be honest, whenever he plays up there he always seems to snag a goal or two