should Judd be on the front page?

[Remember Tommy]

Am I missing something here?

I never said Judd was a Nob and cousins wasnt, I was simply highlighting a point that for some players you can haev criminal associations and get away with it and others make the fornt page

Jockey,

Welcome to PRE again.

If you are a brightsider, and therefore see a glass half full, rather than half empty, expect your statements to be manipulated by the majority of darksiders that post here.

I have however, sensed a definite change in mood here in the last 6 months.

Hang in there and continue to support your arguments.

RT.

 

[jockey]

Yeah, just making the point that putting Judd's 'Criminal Associations' in the same league as Cousins is just parochial bollocks.

Sorry, couldn't disagree more strongly.

We haev a man, who is chariman of an organsiation that systematically and deliberately fixed prices and ripped of every consumer in Australia. His organisation was fined 36 , yes 36, million dollars for doing it. The chairman, is also under investigation for lying to the ACCC.

Judd now works for this man. Cousin may have been mixed up with some of the wrong types but wasnt/isnt earning a living from them. HIs associations have been made the front pages, Judd's havent. Fat Ange has only been accused at this stage....Pratt found guilty.

 

[Phar Ace]

Merely, pointing out the man has ethical problems in all aspects of his life. Everything i have said is true. Judd works for him.

If that makes you feel better so-be-it. Still think you should be deleting that personal reference - what goes around.....

 

[jockey]

If that makes you feel better so-be-it. Still think you should be deleting that personal reference - what goes around.....

Thanks for the advice...moral police??

 

[AngryAnt]

Thanks for the advice...moral police??

Someone here is being the moral police. Oh hang on, it's you.

 

[jockey]

Someone here is being the moral police. Oh hang on, it's you.

Repeat, all i have done is state facts

 

[Phar Ace]

Someone here is being the moral police. Oh hang on, it's you.

:clap

 

[jockey]

:clap

Well, really got me there!!

Just cant beat that sound argument! : ???

 

[Phar Ace]

Merely, pointing out the man has ethical problems in all aspects of his life. Everything i have said is true. Judd works for him.

So you are ready to pre-judge anyone who works for Visy and their associated companies accordingly. Hang on, he's also been patron of Swinburne University, so they're all associates as well I guess, so rope them in too. I'm sure with a few degrees of separation we might even get you associated with the big fella.

 

[jockey]

So you are ready to pre-judge anyone who works for Visy and their associated companies accordingly. Hang on, he's also been patron of Swinburne University, so they're all associates as well I guess, so rope them in too. I'm sure with a few degrees of separation we might even get you associated with the big fella.

At least it is an attempt at an argument. Well done.

Well, the media and all and sundry are more than happy to pre-judge Gardiner and cousins for thier asscoiation with an ALLEGED killer of a drug dealer.

AS i have pointed out, there is nothing alleged about Pratts activitites.

 

[Remember Tommy]

At least it is an attempt at an argument. Well done.

Well, the media and all and sundry are more than happy to pre-judge Gardiner and cousins for thier asscoiation with an ALLEGED killer of a drug dealer.

AS i have pointed out, there is nothing alleged about Pratts activitites.

Hang in there Jockey,

You're doing well.

The darksiders are out for your blood, but can't lay a finger on your logic.

Cheers,

RT.

 

[hutstar]

Hang in there Jockey,

You're doing well.

The darksiders are out for your blood, but can't lay a finger on your logic.

Cheers,

RT.

The media is questioning the direct association of Cousins to an underworld figure in the context of his prior misdemeanors. I am sure if Chris Judd had a history of questionable business practice or dealings then he too would be on the cover of the paper if it came out that he was, in his capacity as a decision maker at Visy (which he clearly isn't) working directly for Pratt in a strategic role given his history of commercial misconduct.
1 of these people is directly involved with a criminal in an area they have a track record with, one is a PR guy with a company that he probably would struggle to make an elevator pitch for.
The difference is that Judd is not likely to commit or be drawn into further (or any) errors in moral judgment, where Cousins may well be tempted Though i agree this is typical media bollocks).
If you think Judd should be on the front page of the paper for having a figurehead role at a dodgy company, then that is your choice. I personally would prefer to have Carlton questioned on how this isn't a breach of the salary cap.
As to the whole dark sider/light sider comments, i don't think this has anything to do with any of that. I can't wait to see cousins play for the Tiges and hope it goes well. Not everything on this site is some kind of political game - it should be (and used to be) about objective debate on issues relating to the footy. Maybe we can get back to that.

 

[Phar Ace]

Hang in there Jockey,

You're doing well.

The darksiders are out for your blood, but can't lay a finger on your logic.

Cheers,

RT.

LMAO :hihi

You couldn't be more wrong if you tried.

I can't wait to see cousins play for the Tiges and hope it goes well.

Exactly, rightly or wrongly he's a Tiger now and attacking someone else doesn't valid that to any higher level.

 

[jockey]

LMAO :hihi

You couldn't be more wrong if you tried.

Exactly, rightly or wrongly he's a Tiger now and attacking someone else doesn't valid that to any higher level.

nobody is attacking anyone...merely pointing out inconsistencies with how certain players have been treated in the media and making a case for equal treatment..