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Sick of this dead man walking game

ROLLS ROYCE

once a tiger, always a tiger
Oct 6, 2007
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mackay, qld
I have had it up to here with this dead man walking crap and us doing he right thing by letting Terry continue to coach while we go through due process for the coaching department etc etc etc.

What crap...in what other organisation would they let a CEO keep him position while the company was losing money by the bucketload...none, he would be terminated and new procedures put in place while a new ceo was found.

I have had 28 years of being the worst performed side in the competition and do not need to let the Wallace saga drag on through 2009 wasting more time.

Unless we r looking at Malthouse, why r we twiddling our thumbs. Lets interview and appoint our new coach so he can spend the final two thirds of this season assessing players and their ability to suit his game plan and the way forward for the club.

That way when we approach the draft the new coach wil know exactly what is needed for the benefit of our list, he will know who to cull and wjho to perservere with....as ooposed to being appointed in November, taking others advice re draft and list culling due to lack of knowledge.

Terry has had five years with the players, his game plan, or lack thereof does not work, his inter-action with the players does not work, the players do not perform under him consistantly, so why r we wasting valuable time with him still at the helm and allowing him to have a poor influence on our younger guys. The fact we have not had a real on-field leader in Terry's time there an indication of how poor he is at making players responsible for their actions and being able to stand up and lead by example.

Okay, so the "due process" to find our new coach may take some time but stuff me surely no as long as it took to appoint CC from 100m down the hallway. Can anyone at this club make a decsiion and more importantly a correct one.

It is obvious to everyone there 2-3 good options for new coach and the rest r gambles. That is not a huge list
to speak to, assess, have presentation etc. I know my old mates Westy and DD and TOO will probably have a thousand reasons why not but, hey...enough is enough...I do not need to sit by each week watching the same crap from a Wallace coached side when he has given up, the club has given up and the players have given up on him as a coach.

The less he has to do with Rance, Jack, Cotch and co the better in my book.

I do not want a caretaker coach....I want a coach...and unless it is someone currently the senior coach at another club i can see no reason why he cannot be in the role at the halfway mark of the season.
Most clubs have agreements with their assistants that they can leave for a senior coaching role.
 
ROLLS ROYCE said:
I have had it up to here with this dead man walking crap and us doing he right thing by letting Terry continue to coach while we go through due process for the coaching department etc etc etc.

What crap...in what other organisation would they let a CEO keep him position while the company was losing money by the bucketload...none, he would be terminated and new procedures put in place while a new ceo was found.

I have had 28 years of being the worst performed side in the competition and do not need to let the Wallace saga drag on through 2009 wasting more time.

Unless we r looking at Malthouse, why r we twiddling our thumbs. Lets interview and appoint our new coach so he can spend the final two thirds of this season assessing players and their ability to suit his game plan and the way forward for the club.

That way when we approach the draft the new coach wil know exactly what is needed for the benefit of our list, he will know who to cull and wjho to perservere with....as ooposed to being appointed in November, taking others advice re draft and list culling due to lack of knowledge.

Terry has had five years with the players, his game plan, or lack thereof does not work, his inter-action with the players does not work, the players do not perform under him consistantly, so why r we wasting valuable time with him still at the helm and allowing him to have a poor influence on our younger guys. The fact we have not had a real on-field leader in Terry's time there an indication of how poor he is at making players responsible for their actions and being able to stand up and lead by example.

Okay, so the "due process" to find our new coach may take some time but stuff me surely no as long as it took to appoint CC from 100m down the hallway. Can anyone at this club make a decsiion and more importantly a correct one.

It is obvious to everyone there 2-3 good options for new coach and the rest r gambles. That is not a huge list
to speak to, assess, have presentation etc. I know my old mates Westy and DD and TOO will probably have a thousand reasons why not but, hey...enough is enough...I do not need to sit by each week watching the same crap from a Wallace coached side when he has given up, the club has given up and the players have given up on him as a coach.

The less he has to do with Rance, Jack, Cotch and co the better in my book.

I do not want a caretaker coach....I want a coach...and unless it is someone currently the senior coach at another club i can see no reason why he cannot be in the role at the halfway mark of the season.
Most clubs have agreements with their assistants that they can leave for a senior coaching role.

If you believe what is printed in the press, March, WAllace and Wright still believe Walalce is the man to lead us out of this hole and that the season is rescuable. I personally dont, but if that is their position, we wont have a new coach this year. Which they have all said wont happen.
 
Wait for the Mid Year Review guys, Gary March has made it CLEAR that will be when Wallace is tapped on the shoulder. I'm sure around 90% of Tiger members/supporters would like the guy to *smile* off now along with the assistance coaches to boot, but it ain't gunna happen.

My mail is that TW will be officially told the games up come the review, he can continue to coach until end of Round 22. In the mean time the club will advertise for a new senior coach, new assistance coaches, new football staff etc etc, wanting to get them all in place by the end of Round 22.

Now unless Caroline Wilson of "The Age" has some super source inside Richmond, that is the way its going to go. Of course Wilson, might be right, TW last game is this week's game, the Board meets on Tuesday and Wallace is officially sacked on Wednesday with either King or Campbell (I'm throwing up) to coach out the season.

Half of me wants TW to go now, the other half says stay, because I don't want DUD players suddenly make a miracle effort over the remaining games and be kept on the list for next season (we've made that mistake pretty much with every coach right back to the early 90's). Case in point Jay *smile*, who was contracted to the club for 2010 back end 2008, I'd sack him (he'd have to be paid out) as well in a blunt message to the players to get their acts together no more sloppiness will be tolerated.
 
We should alrrady have a panel in place to be looking for our new coach.
He or she should be in the job before the end of the season.
He does not need to be coaching the club on game day but should be over seeing the players get a good look at them first hand.
lets face it there is not a person in the whole world that thinks Terry will be coaching us next year.
 
Your'e absolutley right Roller.

Get rid of him now, change the mental state of those involved on field and all of us off field.

It didn't work with spud, it won't work with Wallace.
 
again, what's the hurry Rolls Royce, apart from your obvious impatience?
you have been waiting 28 years, what's another few months?
you just need to accept there is a plan for the football dept that is being put in place.
as such, it achieves squat to finish Wallace after this w/e.
the risk is we get a short term boost to performance that may mean a cheap win or two but could prove costly come draft day.
the die is cast - let Terrence see it through to mid year, or whenever - doesn't matter.
the players are generally having a go but the current side is just not good enough.
keep your shirt on and let it all play out.
 
Don't care if he stays or goes as long as younger players are given extended runs and they try hard enough to almost win.
 
ROLLS ROYCE said:
I have had it up to here with this dead man walking crap and us doing he right thing by letting Terry continue to coach while we go through due process for the coaching department etc etc etc.

What crap...in what other organisation would they let a CEO keep him position while the company was losing money by the bucketload...none, he would be terminated and new procedures put in place while a new ceo was found.

I have had 28 years of being the worst performed side in the competition and do not need to let the Wallace saga drag on through 2009 wasting more time.

Unless we r looking at Malthouse, why r we twiddling our thumbs. Lets interview and appoint our new coach so he can spend the final two thirds of this season assessing players and their ability to suit his game plan and the way forward for the club.

That way when we approach the draft the new coach wil know exactly what is needed for the benefit of our list, he will know who to cull and wjho to perservere with....as ooposed to being appointed in November, taking others advice re draft and list culling due to lack of knowledge.

Terry has had five years with the players, his game plan, or lack thereof does not work, his inter-action with the players does not work, the players do not perform under him consistantly, so why r we wasting valuable time with him still at the helm and allowing him to have a poor influence on our younger guys. The fact we have not had a real on-field leader in Terry's time there an indication of how poor he is at making players responsible for their actions and being able to stand up and lead by example.

Okay, so the "due process" to find our new coach may take some time but stuff me surely no as long as it took to appoint CC from 100m down the hallway. Can anyone at this club make a decsiion and more importantly a correct one.

It is obvious to everyone there 2-3 good options for new coach and the rest r gambles. That is not a huge list
to speak to, assess, have presentation etc. I know my old mates Westy and DD and TOO will probably have a thousand reasons why not but, hey...enough is enough...I do not need to sit by each week watching the same crap from a Wallace coached side when he has given up, the club has given up and the players have given up on him as a coach.

The less he has to do with Rance, Jack, Cotch and co the better in my book.

I do not want a caretaker coach....I want a coach...and unless it is someone currently the senior coach at another club i can see no reason why he cannot be in the role at the halfway mark of the season.
Most clubs have agreements with their assistants that they can leave for a senior coaching role.
Why hurry skipper 17??

The main reason is highlighted above. No more time wasting no more teading water so our public image looks good.

The RFC brand is being tarnished every day that Terry now remains a "dead man walking"
 
disagree.
the media, partic that nasty little tabloid,.have had their best shot at pressuring the club to sack wallace, and to their credit the board have resisted.
the board have a process and in due course we will all see what that entails.
i don't think our brand is being tarnished any further; actually all the commentators agitating for change are the ones looking increasingly deparate.
sit tight, support the players in their endevours, and await the outcome.
 
I'm actually pretty happy with the way the club is handling things.

If we haven't got the money to hire more development coaches then we don't have the money to pay out Terry's contract 7 weeks in and appoint a caretaker coach. And for those who think one of the assistant's would fill in, without asking for more money, then they're dreaming.

For years if the media or fans howled then Richmond reacted and mostly rashly.

The media believes they can steamroll the club into making more rash decisions and then lambast them for it.

The longer thet tell everyone to get stuffed the happier I am.

I should have prefixed this by saying, I'm happy to keep Terry, as long as he follows the directions of the club, which I imagine will be along the lines of, as soon as mathematically we cannot make the finals (not far away), he gets games into the players that our list manager in Craig Cameron wants games put into.

The danger is Wallace winning cheap games at the end of the year, but I don't think that will happen. I think he'll do what Tony Shaw did and thus do the right thing by the club by tanking/putting games into kids..........