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Sin bin/send off?
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Get this implemented and then there'll be grey debates and bending the rules all over it. Forget it.
I think there should be a send off rule or card system, but can’t trust the AFL or the umpires to get it right.
Remember, Vlossy didn’t even get a free kick when Diverfield knocked him out. How can they miss that and be expected to issue send offs appropriately?
Remember, Vlossy didn’t even get a free kick when Diverfield knocked him out. How can they miss that and be expected to issue send offs appropriately?
In principle yes. In practice I have no faith in the AFL to systematically and consistently apply any rule, good, bad, high stakes or low, so until that changes, no.
But Stewart is such a great bloke thats not the kind of player he is etc.
Yes, bring it in. Use the ARC to review and make it as clear cut as possible.
There's a few ways it can happen.
1. ARC/Umpires decide on time in bin or a send off (prone to issues and inconsistency across games).
2. Offending player remains off the field for the game if the player he hits is out for the game was well (think Prestia & Stewart).
I'd prefer #2, though that could be open to abuse with the 1 coach deliberately keeping a player off if to keep the opposition one short.
Dunno, but there definitely needs to be an instant team penalty if a deliberate illegal action weakens the opposition for the rest of the match
There's a few ways it can happen.
1. ARC/Umpires decide on time in bin or a send off (prone to issues and inconsistency across games).
2. Offending player remains off the field for the game if the player he hits is out for the game was well (think Prestia & Stewart).
I'd prefer #2, though that could be open to abuse with the 1 coach deliberately keeping a player off if to keep the opposition one short.
Dunno, but there definitely needs to be an instant team penalty if a deliberate illegal action weakens the opposition for the rest of the match
Nek minut...
ARC: From the image you can clearly see Tom Lynch raise an elbow into the face of the Geelong player. 10 minute sin bin, on report, straight to the Supreme Court of Australia, recommended penalty "life in prison".
First let the AFL get the rules cleared up because I have nfi...
Every incident is open to interpretation and trying to define what constitutes a send-off or sin bin is a minefield.
I can't trust the AFL to get this right.
Every incident is open to interpretation and trying to define what constitutes a send-off or sin bin is a minefield.
I can't trust the AFL to get this right.
Because our experience tells us that Stewart would not have been sent off. They would have come up with some excuse.
They didn't even cite Dangerfield for knocking Vlastuin out and, whether you think that was an in play incident or something more blameworthy, the rules clearly, unequivocally and unambiguously state that the incident should have been cited and sent to the tribunal for assessment.
I voted no because I know this would be selectively applied and they would make it up as they go despite whatever the rule states.
DS
So this. But I think it will happen next year. Pendles is floating an AFL kite. The AFL will continue to push the idea in the media.
I don’t disagree with it for things like concussion.Stewart definitely should have sat out the rest of our game against the Cats last year, but what do you do when you get a Kosi Pickett incident? Clearly infringed, but because Smith didn’t even do a concussion test and kept playing, how can you send him off?
It would be a good idea if the framework was simple to adjudicate, and wasn’t full of gradations and grey areas that included umpires making decisions on intent or based on the outcome.
Otherwise it will just be the latest edition of ‘the umpire chooses when, how or if law X is applied’.
And somehow a player leaving the ground and cannonballing into their opponent without even trying to tackle is deemed ‘ok’, because it’s a ‘fast game’, or the umpire decides ‘they didn’t have enough tine to make the right decision’, or they ‘didn’t see it’ or whatever bs they will apply to not adjudicate the bloody obvious.
I wouldn’t trust the AFL to get me a coffee.
Otherwise it will just be the latest edition of ‘the umpire chooses when, how or if law X is applied’.
And somehow a player leaving the ground and cannonballing into their opponent without even trying to tackle is deemed ‘ok’, because it’s a ‘fast game’, or the umpire decides ‘they didn’t have enough tine to make the right decision’, or they ‘didn’t see it’ or whatever bs they will apply to not adjudicate the bloody obvious.
I wouldn’t trust the AFL to get me a coffee.
X2.
The ARC cant coherently or consistently describe how or why a camera angle shows a ball hitting a post,
Imagine what it'd do to an elbow hitting a nose?
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eh? That’s a bit of a leap from the send off discussion.
Padding and helmets don’t prevent concussion.
NFL has its own CTE issues
