AgreeDisco08 said:Pettifer is a poor man's Ryan O'Keefe. He'd still have a bit of value though, unlike most of our list.
thats slanderous mb you shouldnt go mentioning kayne in the same breath as a real footballer.mb64 said:AgreeDisco08 said:Pettifer is a poor man's Ryan O'Keefe. He'd still have a bit of value though, unlike most of our list.
Who ranks high on your chart Claw?the claw said:i dont rely on stats and dont go to them to often they are what you want them to be. trust your eyes look for weaknesses and strengths.linuscambridge said:the claw said:in all honesty i cant see anyone offering up a third rounder for old shaky knees. when i compare him to similar types at other clubs i wouldnt offer up two bob for him yet alone an active draft pick.mb64 said:I'd take thatHarry said:Pettifer for a third rounder.
Well do yourself a favour Claw and get on prostats and do some real comparisons of your own because you really don't make much sense with this statement. I did and found Pettifer compares very well with players like Michael O'Loughlin, Steven Milne, Russel Robertson. He has 4 goals less for the season than Steve Johnson of Geelong, in the worst Richmond team of all time. Who were you comparing him to? Name names Claw???
If we trade him at the end of the year who bobs up and kicks those 35 or so goals next year? Clean knees Cleve?
i did a player comparison on all our players against all other players in the comp and kane ranks very low on my chart.
the claw said:im a joint coach of my sons u15 soccer team does that qualify me. he also plays rugby for his school and fills in at footy for them. would have liked him to be a footballer but soccer is his first choice. hes also a passionate bulldog supporter ive gone wrong in his upbringing somewhere.rosy23 said:the claw said:i did a player comparison on all our players against all other players in the comp and kane ranks very low on my chart.
Maybe that's why you're posting on a forum rather than coaching an AFL team santa. :rofl
Jason King said:the claw said:lmao at the head in the sand brigade.or so called good supporters. a simple motto for all of you. call it as you see it and be honest all the time. if this means i think pettrified is a dud or schulz aint up to it so be it i for one wont be sugar coating things for anyone.if this makes me a bad supporter so be it i reckon im part of a majority.and if it hurts peoples feelings tuff i suggest you lock yourselfs up in a cupboard or something.
Suggest you look at the stone cold facts. The players being called duds by the "call you as you see it crowd" are actually having their best or near best seasons. Makes you really wonder what the hell you people are actually watching, because it cant be the RFC games.
Harry said:Yeah, that's why we have 2 and a half wins.
Looking forward to seeing Claw's duds - it's easier to criticise than be criticised............ ;Dmb64 said:Who ranks high on your chart Claw?
the claw said:im a joint coach of my sons u15 soccer team does that qualify me. he also plays rugby for his school and fills in at footy for them. would have liked him to be a footballer but soccer is his first choice. hes also a passionate bulldog supporter ive gone wrong in his upbringing somewhere.rosy23 said:the claw said:i did a player comparison on all our players against all other players in the comp and kane ranks very low on my chart.
Maybe that's why you're posting on a forum rather than coaching an AFL team santa. :rofl
IrockZ said:corey jones, brad ebert, ryan okeefe, trav cloke etc all play that hff role much better than what kane has shown
no doubting he kicks his goals but the marking/presenting/workrate parts of it just isnt their imo
linuscambridge said:craig said:Trade em both they may get us a good second rounder and a Cam White if we throw in a sweetner or do 3 way trades.
For Cam Wood and the likes of a Simpson, Kangars, Millar etc etc i'd do it in a heartbeat.
Proven mediocre performers both of em and Pettifer is soft, has no defensive game at all.
I reckon the Lions or the Saints may go for Pathetifer, and the Crows, Dogs, Demons may be tempted to take Jay.
So mediocre Pettifer is that he has matched Michael O'Loughlin from Sydney for goals this year, he is 4 goals short of Reiwoldt and Steve Johnson in the worst Richmond team in history. I reckon he should get a bloody medal for his efforts.
Probably the best comparison would be with Robertson from Melbourne in what is an almost equally crap team, who has 2 more goals for the season and I don't see him copping much criticism. On top of that Pettifer can push back much better than Robertson who generally plays deep forward and doesn't play the link man as well as Petts.
Far bigger problems on the list than Petts and I think you are all fiddling while Rome burns![]()
Pettifer has performed better once Brown has come back into the side.Pettifer is expendable at the right price.linuscambridge said:I will give you O'Keefe, he has been the measuring stick for forward flankers for the last few years.
But Kayne has averaged more possesions than Ebert and Jones, although less goals than both (not very suprising in top 4 sides), suggesting he is working harder up the field, and calling Travis a flanker is a stretch. However Kayne has the same average goals and more possessions than Travis so I would suggest he aint nearly as bad as you and Claw think he is.
I understand neither of you like him, but your predjudice is clouding your ability to make a rational judgement.
crackertiger said:If Pettifer put his body on the line just once a game every now and then we might forgive him. Unfortunately he never EVER EVER EVER has!
Whimpy girl of the highest order, we need to get rid of this type of player. Howat your next!
Disgrace to the jumper is he!
Tigers of Old said:Geelong are first in tackles.
Richmond are last.
Petiffer is not a team player. He is extremely poor in both tackles and 1%s.
He is a one way footballer who refuses to work hard when he doesn't have the football.
This is why it's laughable to compare him to O'Keefe was busts his balls for his team mates and not only is creative with the footy BUT works hard without it.
Petiffer is part of our problem IMO. He is soft and lazy.
Definately tradeable.
linuscambridge said:More mindless rubbish, do you check out his stats before you assasinate his character?