*smile* vs Pettifer: trade value

[Ridley]

Re: schulz vs Pettifer: trade value

Schulz is clearly not showing that he is serious aboutt he opportunity that keeps getting extended to him at RFC. Out the door.

Pettifer is selfish and will lose any value if he is kept any longer. Out the door.

Trade both of them. That effort by Schulz in the 2nd quarter where he dogged the marking contest was one of the worst shirks I've seen for a long time. I hope all the Schulz lovers enjoyed seeing him tonight; hopefully he'll be gone next year. And he had plenty of opportunities to kick goals tonight but failed EVERY time. I suppose that's Richo's fault as well :

As for Pettifer, he cost us at least two goals in the last quarter when the game was still in the balance. Ducked his head when all by himsef 20 out from goal after a beautiful pass from Newman because he thought he heard footsteps. And then he tries to reef the ball away from Lids when running into an open goal and causes a turnover.

Those two instances are Pettifer to a tee; soft and selfish.

 

[tannerztigers]

Re: schulz vs Pettifer: trade value

I rate Pettifer. He may be a tad on the softish side, but i think he is capable of 40+ goal seasons within the next few years. He prob has about 30-35 this year i think anyway.

Showed tonight that he can really play.

As for Schulz ........ i think he is gone, i wouldn't mind seeing him stay, but i wouldn't mind seeing him go.

 

[mb64]

Re: schulz vs Pettifer: trade value

Schulz has zero confidence. Even his kicking is letting him down despite bagging 9 last weekend.

Definately on shaky ground.

I reckon he has to shorten his runup T0O

Who's messed with his action? It was great before this season.

Rawlings?

 

[Tigers of Old]

Re: schulz vs Pettifer: trade value

Schulz has zero confidence. Even his kicking is letting him down despite bagging 9 last weekend.

Definately on shaky ground.

I reckon he has to shorten his runup T0O

Who's messed with his action? It was great before this season.

Rawlings?

Hard to say without knowing mb and as said could purely be confidence.
Still Jade has only been there this year..

Sarge will likely be traded(if we can) at seasons end.
It's just not working out for him at Richmond unfortunately.

 

[itsintheblood]

Re: schulz vs Pettifer: trade value

Schulz has zero confidence. Even his kicking is letting him down despite bagging 9 last weekend.

Definately on shaky ground.

His kicking action is terrible. He spins the ball repeatedly before kicking it and surely this affects the way the ball drops onto his boot.

Gawn imo.

 

[Phar Ace]

Re: schulz vs Pettifer: trade value

Jay looks like a player going through the motions for mine, that on top of not having a particularly good footy brain................

As for Pettifer - he's still top 22 for the Tiges, he's possible top 10 as HFF's go as well

 

[the claw]

Re: schulz vs Pettifer: trade value

Jay looks like a player going through the motions for mine, that on top of not having a particularly good footy brain................

As for Pettifer - he's still top 22 for the Tiges, he's possible top 10 as HFF's go as well

lol top 10. the fact kane is in the top 22 pretty welll explains why we are 16th with just 3.5 wins for the yr.

 

[tigertim]

Re: schulz vs Pettifer: trade value

Whilst I think we should be keep Kayne he was at his worst last night. Sarge on the other hand was at his best...ordinary.

 

[Yellow n Black!]

Re: schulz vs Pettifer: trade value

Schulz has zero confidence. Even his kicking is letting him down despite bagging 9 last weekend.

Definately on shaky ground.

His kicking action is terrible. He spins the ball repeatedly before kicking it and surely this affects the way the ball drops onto his boot.

Gawn imo.

Must an ok kick... he did kick 9 last week in the VFL...

Better than Lance Franklin anyway... 1.11 is woefull

 

[tha8ball]

Re: schulz vs Pettifer: trade value

Schulz has zero confidence. Even his kicking is letting him down despite bagging 9 last weekend.

Definately on shaky ground.

His kicking action is terrible. He spins the ball repeatedly before kicking it and surely this affects the way the ball drops onto his boot.

Gawn imo.

Must an ok kick... he did kick 9 last week in the VFL...

Better than Lance Franklin anyway... 1.11 is woefull

Dont be silly now....

 

[Phar Ace]

Re: schulz vs Pettifer: trade value

Jay looks like a player going through the motions for mine, that on top of not having a particularly good footy brain................

As for Pettifer - he's still top 22 for the Tiges, he's possible top 10 as HFF's go as well

lol top 10. the fact kane is in the top 22 pretty welll explains why we are 16th with just 3.5 wins for the yr.

Well, I would still appreciate seeing 15 better HFF in your humble opinion (currently playing in that position). Anyone can throw rocks............

I agree however that there are much better footballers around than Kane, but you don't get the chance to get the best 38, you get the chance to have 38 among the best 600 or so. I'm just saying he's not the worst by a long shot................. ;D

 

[the claw]

Re: schulz vs Pettifer: trade value

Jay looks like a player going through the motions for mine, that on top of not having a particularly good footy brain................

As for Pettifer - he's still top 22 for the Tiges, he's possible top 10 as HFF's go as well

lol top 10. the fact kane is in the top 22 pretty welll explains why we are 16th with just 3.5 wins for the yr.

Well, I would still appreciate seeing 15 better HFF in your humble opinion (currently playing in that position). Anyone can throw rocks............

I agree however that there are much better footballers around than Kane, but you don't get the chance to get the best 38, you get the chance to have 38 among the best 600 or so. I'm just saying he's not the worst by a long shot................. ;D

oh sheesh just to keep you happy. now lets see. betts burton. davey and davey.mcphee. jones edwards.johnson lappin. davis and davis. didack. thomas. m williams ablett chapman stokes farmer. ebert okeefe embley murphy johnson even p bowden deledio brown tambling. sheesh and thats without even trying. needless to say i dont neccesarily rate the players mentioned but i would take all of them in front of pettrified.i personallycan think of heaps of onballers midfielders i would like to play hff in front of kane im a firm believer that your flankers must be capable of rotating thru midfield and must be able to apply pressure when you dont have the ball.

to put it simple i dont rate pettifer never have and probably never will for to me obvious reasons. pettifer is part of our problem not a part of the solution.

 

[zips]

Re: schulz vs Pettifer: trade value

Jay looks like a player going through the motions for mine, that on top of not having a particularly good footy brain................

As for Pettifer - he's still top 22 for the Tiges, he's possible top 10 as HFF's go as well

lol top 10. the fact kane is in the top 22 pretty welll explains why we are 16th with just 3.5 wins for the yr.

Well, I would still appreciate seeing 15 better HFF in your humble opinion (currently playing in that position). Anyone can throw rocks............

I agree however that there are much better footballers around than Kane, but you don't get the chance to get the best 38, you get the chance to have 38 among the best 600 or so. I'm just saying he's not the worst by a long shot................. ;D

oh sheesh just to keep you happy. now lets see. betts burton. davey and davey.mcphee. jones edwards.johnson lappin. davis and davis. didack. thomas. m williams ablett chapman stokes farmer. ebert okeefe embley murphy johnson even p bowden deledio brown tambling. sheesh and thats without even trying. needless to say i dont neccesarily rate the players mentioned but i would take all of them in front of pettrified.i personallycan think of heaps of onballers midfielders i would like to play hff in front of kane im a firm believer that your flankers must be capable of rotating thru midfield and must be able to apply pressure when you dont have the ball.

to put it simple i dont rate pettifer never have and probably never will for to me obvious reasons. pettifer is part of our problem not a part of the solution.

Betts?? :rofl
Now I know you're just taking the *smile*, Claw. 8)

 

[the claw]

Re: schulz vs Pettifer: trade value

Jay looks like a player going through the motions for mine, that on top of not having a particularly good footy brain................

As for Pettifer - he's still top 22 for the Tiges, he's possible top 10 as HFF's go as well

lol top 10. the fact kane is in the top 22 pretty welll explains why we are 16th with just 3.5 wins for the yr.

Well, I would still appreciate seeing 15 better HFF in your humble opinion (currently playing in that position). Anyone can throw rocks............

I agree however that there are much better footballers around than Kane, but you don't get the chance to get the best 38, you get the chance to have 38 among the best 600 or so. I'm just saying he's not the worst by a long shot................. ;D

oh sheesh just to keep you happy. now lets see. betts burton. davey and davey.mcphee. jones edwards.johnson lappin. davis and davis. didack. thomas. m williams ablett chapman stokes farmer. ebert okeefe embley murphy johnson even p bowden deledio brown tambling. sheesh and thats without even trying. needless to say i dont neccesarily rate the players mentioned but i would take all of them in front of pettrified.i personallycan think of heaps of onballers midfielders i would like to play hff in front of kane im a firm believer that your flankers must be capable of rotating thru midfield and must be able to apply pressure when you dont have the ball.

to put it simple i dont rate pettifer never have and probably never will for to me obvious reasons. pettifer is part of our problem not a part of the solution.

Betts?? :rofl
Now I know you're just taking the *smile*, Claw. 8)

i did say i didnt necesarily rate the players mentioned. i could reel of others but they would just be another reflection of how poorly i rate kane. i make no apologies for this. to me pettifer is a part of a cancer that has to be cut out. hes lazy soft hes a front runner whos easily intimidated and selfish.

 

[tha8ball]

Re: schulz vs Pettifer: trade value

Not sure we would trade either.....however even im losing patience with Sarge. For someone who has been in the system 5 yrs - his body still is way too skinny...he doesnt get to enough contests and he has stuffed some goal opportunities....perhaps we should see if there is a decent midfielder we could trade him for....i dunno....we realistically could have the opportunity to pick up say a Cotchin, a good mid in the pre season like Prismall and possibly a trade for schulz....we could then automatically bolster our midfielder substantially at the end of the yr and use our picks on developin key backs or fwds??... All of a sudden we have deledio, foley, polo, cogs, tambling, cotchin*, prismall*,Connors, edwards, Jackson, Raines, traded player*...and the midfield is really taking shape.

...maybe we will end up with Polak, Reiwoldt and Hughes as our big fwds in the future...who knows.

 

[the claw]

Re: schulz vs Pettifer: trade value

Not sure we would trade either.....however even im losing patience with Sarge. For someone who has been in the system 5 yrs - his body still is way too skinny...he doesnt get to enough contests and he has stuffed some goal opportunities....perhaps we should see if there is a decent midfielder we could trade him for....i dunno....we realistically could have the opportunity to pick up say a Cotchin, a good mid in the pre season like Prismall and possibly a trade for schulz....we could then automatically bolster our midfielder substantially at the end of the yr and use our picks on developin key backs or fwds??... All of a sudden we have deledio, foley, polo, cogs, tambling, cotchin*, prismall*,Connors, edwards, Jackson, Raines, traded player*...and the midfield is really taking shape.

...maybe we will end up with Polak, Reiwoldt and Hughes as our big fwds in the future...who knows.

polak cant kick hughes has such a long way to go. ever thought only jack will be around in 3 or 5 yrs.

 

[geoffryprettyboy]

Re: schulz vs Pettifer: trade value

polak cant kick hughes has such a long way to go. ever thought only jack will be around in 3 or 5 yrs.

From that conclusion our forward line, if you want to call it that is buggered. When 2011 comes we won't have any potential star at the fore.

 

[the claw]

Re: schulz vs Pettifer: trade value

polak cant kick hughes has such a long way to go. ever thought only jack will be around in 3 or 5 yrs.

From that conclusion our forward line, if you want to call it that is buggered. When 2011 comes we won't have any potential star at the fore.

didnt say it would come to be but when rebuilding you should be looking at worst case scenarios and covering for them. if people think we have enough talls on the list just go to a worst case scenario.if polak plays forward it will have to be out of the square he cant kick accurately for goal more than 30 metres out and even when he is inside 30 more often than not misses.
an overall worst case scenario could be just 7 of the talls on the list being there in 2 or 3 yrs time this includes pattison poor skills polak poor skills mcguane poor skills. hughes who i wont criticise at this stage of his career.jack who looks a player. schulz who i have included simply because of his age. simmo who will be in his 30s. and thursfield whos doing okay. sorry thats 8 with 3 or 4 of that 8 who are the glass half full variety that red is wont to say..

 

[GoodOne]

Re: schulz vs Pettifer: trade value

I agree we're short of talls although I rate Polak a bit more than you seem to Clawsey. Looking from a ruckman/forward aspect as you say Simmo is getting on and hopefully this year isnt a sign of things to come in terms of injury (that often plagues ruckmen in later years). Pattison is a trier and has done remarkably well this year but the skill factor still remains a big issue, Schulz is not up to it, Hughes has time on his side but still needs to prove himself as does Jack Rewioldt (who I think will make it just on what I have seen so far). I'm particularly worried about our future forward line at this stage. I think the backline is alot more settled with Thursfield, Polak and McGuane as a potential 3rd or backup tall.

Bottom line is this year we need to recruit alot more talls in my view.

 

[geoffryprettyboy]

Re: schulz vs Pettifer: trade value

polak cant kick hughes has such a long way to go. ever thought only jack will be around in 3 or 5 yrs.

From that conclusion our forward line, if you want to call it that is buggered. When 2011 comes we won't have any potential star at the fore.

didnt say it would come to be but when rebuilding you should be looking at worst case scenarios and covering for them. if people think we have enough talls on the list just go to a worst case scenario.if polak plays forward it will have to be out of the square he cant kick accurately for goal more than 30 metres out and even when he is inside 30 more often than not misses.
an overall worst case scenario could be just 7 of the talls on the list being there in 2 or 3 yrs time this includes pattison poor skills polak poor skills mcguane poor skills. hughes who i wont criticise at this stage of his career.jack who looks a player. schulz who i have included simply because of his age. simmo who will be in his 30s. and thursfield whos doing okay. sorry thats 8 with 3 or 4 of that 8 who are the glass half full variety that red is wont to say..

We have a massive problem up forward, the Richo's & Nathan Brown's don't fall off trees. Reiwoldt & Hughes - the jury is still out, Polak forget about relying on him to win you a game off his boot, can Patto play CHF - the jury is having a smoke outside and talking about it, but I don't like the chances.

Maybe it's time for Greg to run into a phonebox and come out with his cape on and go and poach some sort of star forward.

I think Terence is relying on his flankers to do the damage.