So you want to be a Football Manager - 2006 edition.

[Pomsta]

OK - Stafford, Kellaway and Chaffey gone already.

Howat to be promoted from the rookie list.

I would trade Krak and pick 8 to the Roos for pick 3, if possible
I would trade Tiva and our 3rd round pick to Essendon for pick 20,if possible

I would then get rid of Rodan, Moore, Harts and drop Humm off the rookie list.

This would mean 7 spots will be open on the senior list.

I would then look for a genuine ruck prospect such as Meeson or Wood with our original 2nd round pick.

Best junior KP backman with first pick.

BPA after this with a proviso that they have a bit of pace but most importantly, know how to get the ball and then use the ball.

Just to finish it off with a note that most people wouldn't like I would consider going for Joel Reynolds with a late round throw away draft pick, the rookie draft if eligible, or in the PSD, if he is dumped from Essendon. This kid was slaughtered by Sheedy and could come good with some decent coaching. Plus he has the pace that is required in tody's game.

 

[Tigermad2005]

OK - Stafford, Kellaway and Chaffey gone already.

Howat to be promoted from the rookie list.

I would trade Krak and pick 8 to the Roos for pick 3, if possible
I would trade Tiva and our 3rd round pick to Essendon for pick 20,if possible

I would then get rid of Rodan, Moore, Harts and drop Humm off the rookie list.

This would mean 7 spots will be open on the senior list.

I would then look for a genuine ruck prospect such as Meeson or Wood with our original 2nd round pick.

Best junior KP backman with first pick.

BPA after this with a proviso that they have a bit of pace but most importantly, know how to get the ball and then use the ball.

Just to finish it off with a note that most people wouldn't like I would consider going for Joel Reynolds with a late round throw away draft pick, the rookie draft if eligible, or in the PSD, if he is dumped from Essendon. This kid was slaughtered by Sheedy and could come good with some decent coaching. Plus he has the pace that is required in tody's game.

Why would the roos want Krak and ess want tiver?

 

[Pomsta]

Why would the roos want Krak and ess want tiver?

The Roos really don't have anyone who is a decent crumber in the forward line. Harding is done and Corey Jones seems to have found a niche for himself in the backline.

Essendon need a couple of guys who can run the lines. Tiva can do this on his day and from memory Shheds was after him a couple of years ago.

 

[Brettstigers]

This is a very interesting exercise in that some posters have cut very hard (like I would like to as I freely admit) and left themselves requiring up to six players in this year's draft.  My thoughts are that this potentially places too much pressure on getting real players from one draft and that these coaches will therefore leave themselves short of available heads for next years axings (remembering all draft pick-ups automatically get a two year contract).  They also leave themselves some very difficult choices when they need to cut low draft players who really are not up to it but haven't yet had the "time" to show whether they truly will cut the mustard or not. I therefore think that you need to bear in mind that you need save the odd head for the following year.

Start Position = 42.  Allowed = 44 (38 Players and 6 total of rookies and veterens)

Delistings and Retirements
Rodan (contract paid out), Kellaway (Done deal), Chaffey, Stafford, Humm
Trade Players Offered Out
Tivendale, Krak, Hartigan, Roach, Jackson (Expected that one player of this group is traded)
Existing Players on Rookie List
Richardson, Gaspar, Moore (re-rookied - I only support re-rookieing talls)
Gone 7 off playing list

National Draft
Four selections
Pre-Season Draft and/or Trade Table
Two selections (eg. Bradshaw and Polak? or one existing player and a junior like White)
Rookie Promotions
Howat
Intake to Player List = 7

Rookie Movements
Howatt promoted
Humm Delisted
Graham re-rookied
Moore re-rookied
Gaspar and Richo = Veteran's List
Two new rookie selections
Rookie List = 6 (Richo, Gas, Moore, Graham + 2 new rookies)

RFC Playing List
Seven new players on playing list from National Draft/PSD/trade table/Existing rookies promoted, 31 existing player
for 38 total.  +6 Rookies for a total list of 44.

Heads Potentially Saved for Next Year if not traded
Krak, Harts, Tivendale (ie 1 year contract if not traded), Hall, Knobel, Jackson, Roach

Damn I saved Roach, Moore and Jackson in one form or other but traded one player like Hartigan - and kept all the picks I wanted - didn't expect that.

 

[richards42]

This is a very interesting exercise in that some posters have cut very hard (like I would like to as I freely admit) and left themselves requiring up to six players in this year's draft.  My thoughts are that this potentially places too much pressure on getting real players from one draft and that these coaches will therefore leave themselves short of available heads for next years axings (remembering all draft pick-ups automatically get a two year contract).  They also leave themselves some very difficult choices when they need to cut low draft players who really are not up to it but haven't yet had the "time" to show whether they truly will cut the mustard or not. I therefore think that you need to bear in mind that you need save the odd head for the following year.

Start Position = 42.  Allowed = 44 (38 Players and 6 total of rookies and veterens)

Delistings and Retirements
Rodan (contract paid out), Kellaway (Done deal), Chaffey, Stafford, Humm
Trade Players Offered Out
Tivendale, Krak, Hartigan, Roach, Jackson (Expected that one player of this group is traded)
Existing Players on Rookie List
Richardson, Gaspar, Moore (re-rookied - I only support re-rookieing talls)
Gone 7 off playing list

National Draft
Four selections
Pre-Season Draft and/or Trade Table
Two selections (eg. Bradshaw and Polak? or one existing player and a junior like White)
Rookie Promotions
Howat
Intake to Player List = 7

Rookie Movements
Howatt promoted
Humm Delisted
Graham re-rookied
Moore re-rookied
Gaspar and Richo = Veteran's List
Two new rookie selections
Rookie List = 6 (Richo, Gas, Moore, Graham + 2 new rookies)

RFC Playing List
Seven new players on playing list from National Draft/PSD/trade table/Existing rookies promoted, 31 existing player
for 38 total.  +6 Rookies for a total list of 44.

Heads Potentially Saved for Next Year if not traded
Krak, Harts, Tivendale (ie 1 year contract if not traded), Hall, Knobel, Jackson, Roach

Damn I saved Roach, Moore and Jackson in one form or other but traded one player like Hartigan - and kept all the picks I wanted - didn't expect that.


Like your effort.Plenty of thought.If gardiner doesn't come up,carlton will be looking for a ruckman.I know if we trade knobel it will leave us vunerable but in saying that he doesn't give us much either.I'd be keen to cut our losses and trade him to carlton, not sure what pick,throw in tivver and see if we could get pick 19 odd.
Options if we loose knobel:Try for meeson or wood.Or maybe use hall for a year as a backup ruckman

 

[Brettstigers]

If gardiner doesn't come up,carlton will be looking for a ruckman.I know if we trade knobel it will leave us vunerable but in saying that he doesn't give us much either.I'd be keen to cut our losses and trade him to carlton, not sure what pick,throw in tivver and see if we could get pick 19 odd.
Options if we loose knobel:Try for meeson or wood.Or maybe use hall for a year as a backup ruckman

For all that Knobel didn't play a game this year you need at least two hard bodied ruckmen on your list and one that can step up if he has to. If Simmons were injured, without Knobel we would be stuffed. Pattison could relieve but would get killed - he can't cope with the demands of rucking a full game in the ones. Ray Hall has proven that he gets injured as a ruck and isn't suitable, just not quite big enough. Ruckmen take years. Any draft selection (18) may take up to seven years to really come through to the No. 1 Ruck spot. Lade's best year ever = 30. Hale & McIntosh are just starting to pay dividends for the Roos and they are 25.

In saying that, getting Everett or Gardiner would be a huge mistake. Everett is on the decline and Gardiner will probably never recapture his form post all his injuries let alone his mental issues.

 

[pahoffm]

Always worthwhile to go back over the list to see where we are currently standing.
Back in September, we looked at where the list was placed, and what changes needed to be made.
Most of the inevitable changes have occurred, plus some surprises.

Let's look again.

Name Ht Age Type

Hall 196 27 d
We have only one very tall defender, Hall at 196cm. We are long overdue in recruiting a younger very tall defender.

A Kellaway 190 31 d
Gaspar 193 30 d
P.Bowden 191 25 d
Moore 190 23 d questionable
Polak      194      22      d
McGuane 192 20 d
Thursfield 190 20 d injury
On paper it seems OK, but in reality Kellaway & Gaspar are coming to the end & there are questions regarding Moore & McGuane in key roles, whilst Thursfield is injured. Trading either Moore or McGuane for another 18yo junior could be an option.


J.Bowden 188 28 d
Oakley-Nicholls 188 19 d
Casserley 186 19 d
Problem seems to be the gap between 28yo & 19yo. Nothing inbetween. Can't do much but wait & develop the 2 x 19yos.

Newman 180 24 d injury
Raines 182 21 d
White 178 19 d
Looks OK, just need to ensure White's development.

Richardson 197 32 f
Pattison 198 20 f
Limbach 192 20 f
Hughes 193 18 f
The problem again arises of a gap between 32-20yo. Damage was done around 1999 when we should have drafted a tall forward that would be 25yo now. Just have to sit & wait on the 3 boys.

Brown 182 29 f
Pettifer 182 25 f
Krakouer 174 24 f
Meyer 183 20 f
Meyer is 20yo next year. Could do with another 17/18yo in this group. I'm tempted to trade either Brown or Krakouer for a junior.

Schulz 192 21 u/d/f
Jackson 186 20 u/d/f
We have 2 good junior players in this area with years ahead, need for further development.

Johnson 187 28 m
Tivendale 185 27 m questionable
Tuck 188 25 m
Coughlan 185 24 m injury
Deledio 188 20 m
Polo 187 20 m
Youngest is 20yo, need another 17/18yo in this group. Tempted to trade in an older player, Tivendale, for a junior.

Chaffey 180 28 m retire
Hyde 182 24 m
Humm 182 23 m delist
Howat 182 21 m
Roach 182 21 m
Again, youngest will be 21yo, need another 17/18yo in this group. Trade in Chaffey for a junior. Humm too.

Rodan 171 23 m question
Hartigan 179 21 m
Foley 177 21 m
Tambling 179 20 m
Again youngest will be 20yo, could trade in one of the above for a 17/18yo.

Stafford 203 32 r retire
Simmonds 196 28 r
Knobel 202 27 r   injury
Graham 200 19 r
Stafford retiring is a must. Not sure whether to draft another junior, or go for a 22/23yo. We need a 2nd ruckman NOW, lest Simmonds gets run into the ground.

In conclusion there are some crucial areas that I see for us.
1. A junior very tall defender.
2. A ruckman whether it be an 18yo junior, or a 22/23yo.
3. Another key defender.
4. A junior medium sized midfielder who can get centre clearances.

 

[pahoffm]

To look at this from another perpective, here is the spread again.

	2006
	<175	175-179	180-184	185-189	190-194	195-199	200+
28+			Brown 182 F 28	Johnson 187 M 28	Gaspar 192 D 29	Richardson 195 F 31
25-27				J Bowden 188 D 27		Simmonds 196 R 27	Knobel 202 R 26
				Tivendale 185 M 26		Hall 196 D 25
22-24	Krakouer 176 F 23		Pettifer 182 F 24	Coughlan 186 M 23	P Bowden 191 F 24
			Newman 182 D 23	Tuck 188 M 24	Polak 194 D 22
				Hyde 186 M 23
				Moore 189 D 22
18-21		Foley 177 M 20	Howat 182 M 21	Jackson 187 Ut 19	Schulz 193 Ut 20	Pattison 198 F 20	Graham 200 R 18
		Hartigan 178 D 20	Raines 184 D 20	Deledio 188 M 19	McGuane 190 D 19
		Tambling 179 M 19		Polo 186 M 19	Thursfield 191 D 19
		White 179 D 18		Oakley-Nicholls 188 D 18	Hughes 193 F 19
				Casserley 186 D 18
-18

From this angle, we can see that there are some opportunities.

 

[skiptomystu]

I still think we need another speedy ball carrying midfielder, another inside midfielder and another couple of key forwards because I don't class McGuane as a Key Forward.

BTW Where does everyone see McGuane playing in the future, Key Forward or Key Back?

 

[pahoffm]

The main area seems to be in the 180-184cm group, where we only have 5 of a possible 9 players. This draft, there is an opportunity to add another 2 players. Hopefully, our future premiership centre player will be 1 of these 2 selected.

Another area is the below 180cm area. The delisting of Rodan gives opportunity to picking up that 6th player in this group. Hopefully the one we pick up will have explosive pace and have that knack of kicking multiple goals in a game.

The 185-189 group is packed solid and clearly doesn't need any extras.

The 190-194 group looks solid at the bottom end. The addition of Polak adds depth in the middle section. Still, may be worth picking up a junior in this group to make up for the dearth up the mature end.

The 195-199 is a critical area, with our youngest player in this group 20yo. Pattison has been on the list for 2 years already, and looks as if he needs at least another couple of years. Drafting an 18yo junior into this group is a MUST.

The 200+ area is also important. Reason being that Knobel is our only 'ready' ruck in this group. And there is nothing between Knobel 26yo & Graham 18yo.
Me thinks that if Knobel doesn't come up, that with the addition of Polak, that Ray Hall might be spending some time in the ruck. (Not a preferred option.)
Another 200+ cm 18yo ruckman isn't as important to us, as say a 22yo one. We can draft another 18yo this year, but it isn't crucial.

I look forward to your thoughts.

 

[skiptomystu]

The main area seems to be in the 180-184cm group, where we only have 5 of a possible 9 players. This draft, there is an opportunity to add another 2 players. Hopefully, our future premiership centre player will be 1 of these 2 selected.

Another area is the below 180cm area. The delisting of Rodan gives opportunity to picking up that 6th player in this group. Hopefully the one we pick up will have explosive pace and have that knack of kicking multiple goals in a game.

The 185-189 group is packed solid and clearly doesn't need any extras.

The 190-194 group looks solid at the bottom end. The addition of Polak adds depth in the middle section. Still, may be worth picking up a junior in this group to make up for the dearth up the mature end.

The 195-199 is a critical area, with our youngest player in this group 20yo. Pattison has been on the list for 2 years already, and looks as if he needs at least another couple of years. Drafting an 18yo junior into this group is a MUST.

The 200+ area is also important. Reason being that Knobel is our only 'ready' ruck in this group. And there is nothing between Knobel 26yo & Graham 18yo.
Me thinks that if Knobel doesn't come up, that with the addition of Polak, that Ray Hall might be spending some time in the ruck. (Not a preferred option.)
Another 200+ cm 18yo ruckman isn't as important to us, as say a 22yo one. We can draft another 18yo this year, but it isn't crucial.

I look forward to your thoughts.

Jetta.

 

[pahoffm]

Maybe

 

[skiptomystu]

It's a real shame he won't be there at 26, because even though a lot of people don't think he's any good, I have a feeling he could be the pick of the bunch in years to come.

 

[the claw]

for gods sake if we are to use our first pick on a small please let him be well rounded.

 

[skiptomystu]

I'm not saying get Jetta with pick 13, just saying I think he will turn out to be a good player. If we are going small with our first pick I wouldn't mind Daniel Connors, Garry Moss, or even Clinton Benjamin.

 

[cooltiger]

tall back ...I keep saying it Scott Mayer use our last pick on him ..right age 21 right hight and improving ...