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Stability paying off?

Col.W.Kurtz said:
At a time when the Tigers should be celebrating Saturday night's thrilling win over Brisbane and focusing on earning their first finals berth in seven years, the club famed for eating its own was facing another high-profile sacking before Miller fell on his sword.

Not sure how credible that quote is considering mention of GM falling on his own sword when it's claimed in today's H/S that March rang Greg on Friday night and told him he was sacked. Also where it says "another high-profile sacking" who were the others that were alluded to?

Mike Sheahan- GREG Miller was informed of his sacking by president Gary March via telephone late Friday night (link)
 
The message I read into this weekends events is that RFC is learning how to make better decisions and is improving it's focus on performing and being accountable for that end.

Keep on it Tiges ! :clap
 
rosy23 said:
Not sure how credible that quote is considering mention of GM falling on his own sword when it's claimed in today's H/S that March rang Greg on Friday night and told him he was sacked. Also where it says "another high-profile sacking" who were the others that were alluded to?

No doubt the picture is confused and messy Rosy, my point was more that's what the take home message for the rest of the football community will be from this. I'm talking more about perception than reality.
 
Col.W.Kurtz said:
So you don't think Allardyce could have steered the club clear of relegation? No offense to Keegan, who is one of the games great characters, but few outside of England's North West would rate him in 2008 as a better manager than Allardyce. So Newcastle have paid a fortune to finish with a lessor manager.

To come back to Richmond ,the time to sack Wallace would have been at the end of last year. But I can't see any other coach getting more out of this playing list that Wallace has this year, we're not that good. But the finical and reputationional cost of sacking him would have been high.

All my point is that the club made the right decision at the end of last year to let Wallace see out his contract.

Sorry to continue with my Newcastle Rant but;

Allardyce was the reason we were in relegation trouble, in truth the players stopped playing for him. You can be the best tactician in the world, but as a coach, if you lose the players, thats it. Football like every sport is played 80% above the shoulders, and if you can mentally inspire the players, good things tend to happen. Thats Keegan's biggest strength, he puts confidence back into the players, he inspires them, heck thats what Hafey and Northey did too, particularly Northey as we didn't have a superstar team, but for that year, we believed. Guess what happened after he left!
 
Don't overplay the whole "mid-season drama" thing.
If you want to put a better structure in place, with the right people, better to do that before end of season when everyone else will be hunting too.
The Miller departure is not a sign of upheaval, its the sign the place is maturing and is striving to continue along the path from competition shamateurs to becoming professional.
Before PRE posters instinctively drop their bundle and panic into a negative assessment, perhaps they could think about the bigger picture here?
And by the way, the good news from the process is of course still to come - and from what I read, its about adding more positions, with better quality people.
Now now, wouldn't be such a bad thing, would it?
 
CptJonno2Madcow2005 said:
Good onya Claw for at least clarifying your opinion on the kids.However my issue is in regards to your comment about improvement and who have we beaten.Im not saying we are anywhere near Geelong atm however considering where we came from last year to the present on the back of more kids in the side suggests we are on the improve and continue to do so.I prefer we see the improvement in our current kids rather than "tank" on the hope that a few highly rated kids MIGHT help the process faster.Besides on our track record we do better with later picks than early picks ;D
yeah i may be overly pessimistic but i do not mean to come across as someone who thinks we have not improved but i find i am forced to take very strong stances on this board.
as far as young players goes that are in the system i do think theres been improvement. how much in relation to other clubs who knows.there is some hope there if wallace were to go tomorrow the new coach would have a bit to work with because this time around the rebuild has been primarily based on youing players rather than the shedload of recycled hacks we became famous for drafting.

i base most of my asertions on the overall list and its structure. i am forever pointing out player type size quality team structure player deficiencies depth etc.the funny thing most posters agree we have big holes in the list but refuse to go the next step and ask themselves what the consequences of those holes may mean.

imo its this part we have wrong and yes its just my opinion but with a tougher draw and a reasonable amount of injury i can see us very easily finishing bottom 4 next yr. so one reasonable yr doesnt make for a good team.i need only point to 06 most thought here we come watch out in 07. but to me it was inevitable that we would slip soley based on the list and its structure.
 
17 said:
Don't overplay the whole "mid-season drama" thing.
If you want to put a better structure in place, with the right people, better to do that before end of season when everyone else will be hunting too.
The Miller departure is not a sign of upheaval, its the sign the place is maturing and is striving to continue along the path from competition shamateurs to becoming professional.
Before PRE posters instinctively drop their bundle and panic into a negative assessment, perhaps they could think about the bigger picture here?
And by the way, the good news from the process is of course still to come - and from what I read, its about adding more positions, with better quality people.
Now now, wouldn't be such a bad thing, would it?

Too right. Well said 17!
 
17 said:
Don't overplay the whole "mid-season drama" thing.
If you want to put a better structure in place, with the right people, better to do that before end of season when everyone else will be hunting too.
The Miller departure is not a sign of upheaval, its the sign the place is maturing and is striving to continue along the path from competition shamateurs to becoming professional.
Before PRE posters instinctively drop their bundle and panic into a negative assessment, perhaps they could think about the bigger picture here?
And by the way, the good news from the process is of course still to come - and from what I read, its about adding more positions, with better quality people.
Now now, wouldn't be such a bad thing, would it?

Look as I said before if he get an A grader like Woodhouse then all is forgiven. But my point has always been about perception.

Perception is a very powerful thing, to take an example from a different field both Labour and Liberals are doing in practice not a great deal about climate change, they know the policies are complex, difficult and unpopular. They both had relatively similar polices of slowly brining in carbon trading. Yet the perception was that Rudd and Johnny were miles apart on policy because Rudd played the media well, signed a meaningless international agreement and nobody trusted Johnny any more.

It’s the same with Richmond, there is a perception based on past actions that we are a ruthless club that eats it’s own. Suddenly having a football manager sacked/resigned mid season feeds that perception. In fairness it’s still early days in the media cycle, it will be interesting to see how it plays out
 
That is a perception the club has assidously tried to get rid of over the last 6+ years.
Its also a perception the football media try just as hard to keep perpetuating, to sell papers etc.
We who support know what has changed and where the club is going: not yet perfect, but a helluva lot better than it was.
So rather than worry about perceptions from outsiders with a vested interest in being negative about Richmond, be pleased about the real reasons for this change, and where we are going.