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Steve Hocking

Legends of 2017

Finally!!!!!!!!!!!
Mar 24, 2005
5,040
2,467
Melbourne
I've decided he's like the bloke who breaks into your house when you're asleep..... steals your family jewels..... then prior to slinking off into the night..... takes a dump in your wardrobe leaving a stench which will linger forever!
Wrong. He is the dump left in the wardrobe
 
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LeeToRainesToRoach

Tiger Legend
Jun 4, 2006
33,065
11,384
Melbourne
Average score against for the top three defensive teams - and the last time it was this low.

YearAvgClubs
202166.6Geelong, Melbourne, Bulldogs
202051.5*Port, Richmond, Collingwood
201970.7Geelong, Collingwood, Hawthorn
201872.3Geelong, Richmond, Hawthorn
201775.8Sydney, Port, Richmond
201670.2Sydney, Geelong, Bulldogs
201570.9Hawthorn, Fremantle, Richmond
201471.5Sydney, Fremantle, Port
201375.2Fremantle, Sydney, Richmond
201276.6Sydney, Fremantle, Hawthorn
201172.7Collingwood, Geelong, Hawthorn
201075.0St.Kilda, Collingwood, Geelong
200975.4St.Kilda, Collingwood, Adelaide
200880.8Geelong, Adelaide, Hawthorn
200776.9Geelong, Sydney, Adelaide
200676.1Sydney, Adelaide, St.Kilda
200576.0Adelaide, Sydney, St.Kilda
196662.3Collingwood, Carlton, St.Kilda
196561.5Geelong, Essendon, Collingwood
196460.3Geelong, Collingwood, Melbourne
196359.2Geelong, Essendon, St.Kilda
196264.9Melbourne, Carlton, Essendon
196164.8Melbourne, Hawthorn, St.Kilda

This year's rule changes have assisted the top sides to shut the opposition down like never before in the AFL era.
 
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mrposhman

Tiger Legend
Oct 6, 2013
11,679
8,817
Average score against for the top three defensive teams - and the last time it was this low.

YearAvgClubs
202166.6Geelong, Melbourne, Bulldogs
202051.5*Port, Richmond, Collingwood
201970.7Geelong, Collingwood, Hawthorn
201872.3Geelong, Richmond, Hawthorn
201775.8Sydney, Port, Richmond
201670.2Sydney, Geelong, Bulldogs
201570.9Hawthorn, Fremantle, Richmond
201471.5Sydney, Fremantle, Port
201375.2Fremantle, Sydney, Richmond
201276.6Sydney, Fremantle, Hawthorn
201172.7Collingwood, Geelong, Hawthorn
201075.0St.Kilda, Collingwood, Geelong
200975.4St.Kilda, Collingwood, Adelaide
200880.8Geelong, Adelaide, Hawthorn
200776.9Geelong, Sydney, Adelaide
200676.1Sydney, Adelaide, St.Kilda
200576.0Adelaide, Sydney, St.Kilda
196662.3Collingwood, Carlton, St.Kilda
196561.5Geelong, Essendon, Collingwood
196460.3Geelong, Collingwood, Melbourne
196359.2Geelong, Essendon, St.Kilda
196264.9Melbourne, Carlton, Essendon
196164.8Melbourne, Hawthorn, St.Kilda

This year's rule changes have assisted the top sides to shut the opposition down like never before in the AFL era.

Fake news. It was Richmond that destroyed scoring and are the antithesis of what AFL should represent. Richmond must be stopped before they destroy football.
 

UKTiger

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Jul 11, 2010
6,234
2,835
Shipston on Stour, UK
I know we bag Hocking for what his meddling has done to the game but my question is, why have all the other teams managed to adapt to the changes but the Tigers haven't?
 
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WesternTiger

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Nov 7, 2004
13,405
1,268
Brown on the commentary mentioned the stand rule being brought in to counter Richmond. Can’t remember his exacted words but effectively said good decision. *smile* me can you image the uproar if the ALF brought in a rule to counter another teams one wood? That short passing game in the first half by North was a terrible spectacle.
 
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CarnTheTiges

This is a REAL tiger
Mar 8, 2004
21,474
4,633
Victoria
I know we bag Hocking for what his meddling has done to the game but my question is, why have all the other teams managed to adapt to the changes but the Tigers haven't?
Because a number of other factors combined to magnify the damage done by the rule changes.
 
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jokershoppe

Tiger Champion
Feb 17, 2008
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933
Was told years ago that Hocking was a shoe in for CEO of Geelong and still the AFL allowed him to target Richmond .
A good friend of Hocking told me this many times with Hocking fully in the know that he was back at Geelong while inventing this rule.
 
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Harry

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Mar 2, 2003
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Jonathan Brown said as a matter of fact in yesterdays telecast that the AFL brought in the stand rule to counter Richmond. It's common knowledge to all that a rule change was brought in to disadvantage one particular team.
 
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eZyT

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Jun 28, 2019
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I know we bag Hocking for what his meddling has done to the game but my question is, why have all the other teams managed to adapt to the changes but the Tigers haven't?

probably because all the other teams havnt spent 10 years recruiting for a particular game style (Fast, Tough, Big Motor, kicking negotiable). and 5 years mastering it.

and the rule changes have turned it into netball, where you have to move the ball with precision, slowly.

Hardwick has always said 'grass is your friend'.

the rule was designed (kudos) to hinder our high pressure, territory, speed, endurance, chaos,

666 was bought in to stop us pushing numbers at the ball,

bench rotations were bought in to stop us running.

all in favour of ball control. slow, methodically, bruise free, untiring.

It favours the game that Buckley invented, then Scott mastered, and dominated us with for a half in the 2020 GF.

I can't speak for Melbourne or Dogs, I havnt watched them enough to understand how they play.

But in term of your question

'how did other teams manage to adapt'?

Geelong didnt adapt to the rules, the rules adapted to them.
 
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MB78

I can have my cake and eat it too
Sep 8, 2009
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I read a poster on Facebook description of Shocking as the worst thing in AFL since Meatloaf. So true. New nickname for him should be Meatloaf.
 
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CarnTheTiges

This is a REAL tiger
Mar 8, 2004
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Victoria
Was told years ago that Hocking was a shoe in for CEO of Geelong and still the AFL allowed him to target Richmond .
A good friend of Hocking told me this many times with Hocking fully in the know that he was back at Geelong while inventing this rule.
It’s the AFL, Joker. Corrupt AF.
 
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TigerMasochist

Walks softly carries a big stick.
Jul 13, 2003
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probably because all the other teams havnt spent 10 years recruiting for a particular game style (Fast, Tough, Big Motor, kicking negotiable). and 5 years mastering it.

and the rule changes have turned it into netball, where you have to move the ball with precision, slowly.

Hardwick has always said 'grass is your friend'.

the rule was designed (kudos) to hinder our high pressure, territory, speed, endurance, chaos,

666 was bought in to stop us pushing numbers at the ball,

bench rotations were bought in to stop us running.

all in favour of ball control. slow, methodically, bruise free, untiring.

It favours the game that Buckley invented, then Scott mastered, and dominated us with for a half in the 2020 GF.

I can't speak for Melbourne or Dogs, I havnt watched them enough to understand how they play.

But in term of your question

'how did other teams manage to adapt'?

Geelong didnt adapt to the rules, the rules adapted to them.
*smile* masterpiece, eZyrembrandt.
 
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jb03

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Jan 28, 2004
30,207
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Most opponents use the long kickout to the wing against us as we're a short team. We usually chip to the back pocket. It has *smile* crucified us.
The kick in rule is an embarrassment. Watching it at local level and junior footy is even worse.
 
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tigersnake

Tear 'em apart
Sep 10, 2003
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I read a poster on Facebook description of Shocking as the worst thing in AFL since Meatloaf. So true. New nickname for him should be Meatloaf.
Insult to meatloaf. Hocking has systematically and reactively (that sounds like a contradiction in terms but it fits and sums up the shitshow here) changed the game to suit his own selfish confused agenda (Geelong, anti-Richmond, Appeasing sponsors).

Meatloaf just rocked up and sang badly on GF day.
 
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Redford

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Dec 18, 2002
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The kick in rule is an embarrassment. Watching it at local level and junior footy is even worse.
Just another change to make the game look more like a glorified form of basketball, just on a bigger playing arena.
 
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tigersnake

Tear 'em apart
Sep 10, 2003
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Hocking, as bad as he was, is just a symptom of a sick AFL. He was selected and cultivated because he was in the image of the organisation. Dumb, unaccountable, hillbilly boofhead boys club. There is no mechanism to force good governance on the AFL, it has to come from within, driven by internal policy and culture. Barring a Richmond takeover, I can't see it ever happening.

edit, you hear whispers that Benny should be the next CEO. Thats true if the AFL had good governance. Because they have the opposite, they won't let him near the joint, and he'd know it.
 
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