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[crackertiger]

We currently have 13 talls on our list excluding rookies, how many more do you want?

I remember back in 2002 and 2003 we were lucky to have 8 talls on our list.

 

[U2Tigers]

We currently have 13 talls on our list excluding rookies, how many more do you want?

I remember back in 2002 and 2003 we were lucky to have 8 talls on our list. 

Fine we have talls, but are they up to being CHB's

To me our weekest spot.

I still think Hall and Shultz can only help out when needed, I don't think they are true CHB's

So who should we play there besides them.

 

[Ridley]

We need to trust our recruiting staff. Give them a go.

The same recruiting staff that gave us Alex Gilmour, Billy Nicholls, Tim Fleming, Luke Weller, Shane Morrison, Daniel Sipthorpe, Kyle Archibald. Justin Blumfield etc etc ???

Let's see them put the score on the board first. Just because they have jobs as recruiters doesn't mean it's a given they're any good at it.

Can you also list the good recruits to give a balanced view?  Its ridiculous listing off the failures without taking into consideration the successes.  Every team will have a percentage of bad recruits, there wont be one team in the league who has had extreme success.  Why, because its the nature of the beast.  You are recruiting youngsters, players who no longer want to be somewhere else, others who are not wanted by their clubs.  Some will NOT kick on.

Apart from Deledio and Tambling, who were patently obvious to all and sundry, I don't think it's been proven that Miller has recruited any good players to RFC via the national draft yet. Some may turn out to be good but all of then currently have much to prove. Meyer is the most likely to make it IMO, but all the others have definite question marks over them. Is Jay Schulz the white knight KPP many seem to believe? He's not done much in 3 years.

So please point out the successes to balance the proven failures listed above.

 

[Ridley]

We need to trust our recruiting staff. Give them a go.

The same recruiting staff that gave us Alex Gilmour, Billy Nicholls, Tim Fleming, Luke Weller, Shane Morrison, Daniel Sipthorpe, Kyle Archibald. Justin Blumfield etc etc ???

Let's see them put the score on the board first. Just because they have jobs as recruiters doesn't mean it's a given they're any good at it.

Francis Jackson is the recruiting officer. Was for 2005. Which of those guys did he recruit?

But Miller is in charge of recruiting and in reality has been ever since he arrived at the club October 2002.

 

[Tigers of Old]

Is Jay Schulz the white knight KPP many seem to believe? He's not done much in 3 years.

As a tall, let's see how Jay goes this year before writing him off just yet. Big year for Sarge sure but at barely 20 years of age there's still plenty of upside one would hope. If there's very little improvement this season then fair enough questions need to be asked.
Tuck wasn't a bad pick up .

 

[Ridley]

Is Jay Schulz the white knight KPP many seem to believe? He's not done much in 3 years.

As a tall, let's see how Jay goes this year before writing him off just yet. Big year for Sarge sure but at barely 20 years of age there's still plenty of upside one would hope. If there's very little improvement this season then fair enough questions need to be asked.
Tuck wasn't a bad pick up .

Touche TOO, well done. Yep Tuck was a great pick up. Not writing Schulz off yet, I just believe he's got along way to go to live up to the lofty status of a no. 12 pick.

Miller's record in the ND is still well in the red at this stage but the next few years could turn it around. All depends on how Jackson, Roach, Raines, Pattison, Polo, McGuane, Hartigan etc etc develop and how often RFC plays finals.

 

[Tigerfan]

I agree with that one DDT.  The chat room almost exploded.  There were some extremely angry people.  Must look up who was in that draft and see how they eventually panned out.  I think Marty McGrath is one I remember them talking about.

marty was 2001, with Rodan and Hyde (again) maybe sipthorpe too ; tigerfury.com (rivals) hadn't closed yet.

2003 was Gilmour, Roach hartigan, jacko, fletcher morrison, Tuck raines Arch etc

 

[Tigerfan]

So please point out the successes to balance the proven failures listed above.

Tuck. And i don't mind hartigan and jacko either.

 

[Ridley]

So please point out the successes to balance the proven failures listed above.

Tuck. And i don't mind hartigan and jacko either.

Agree re Tuck. Don't mind Hartigan and Jacko either although neither could be qualified as a success yet.

Doesn't leave the ledger very well balanced in any case.

 

[GoodOne]

We need to trust our recruiting staff. Give them a go.

The same recruiting staff that gave us Alex Gilmour, Billy Nicholls, Tim Fleming, Luke Weller, Shane Morrison, Daniel Sipthorpe, Kyle Archibald. Justin Blumfield etc etc ???

Let's see them put the score on the board first. Just because they have jobs as recruiters doesn't mean it's a given they're any good at it.

Can you also list the good recruits to give a balanced view?  Its ridiculous listing off the failures without taking into consideration the successes.  Every team will have a percentage of bad recruits, there wont be one team in the league who has had extreme success.  Why, because its the nature of the beast.  You are recruiting youngsters, players who no longer want to be somewhere else, others who are not wanted by their clubs.  Some will NOT kick on.

Apart from Deledio and Tambling, who were patently obvious to all and sundry, I don't think it's been proven that Miller has recruited any good players to RFC via the national draft yet. Some may turn out to be good but all of then currently have much to prove. Meyer is the most likely to make it IMO, but all the others have definite question marks over them. Is Jay Schulz the white knight KPP many seem to believe? He's not done much in 3 years.

So please point out the successes to balance the proven failures listed above.

Pity you missed the point of my comment. My point is how can you make judgement of the success or failure of the current crop? You cant. Even you say yourself that most have much to prove. By definition then, you cant make judgement until down the track. Deledio has proven himself already, but Tambling? Geez he has a way yet to prove his #4 pick. Some excellent players have been recruited via the national draft, indirectly or directly. I have already mentioned some so wont go back over old ground. I stand by my assertion that I don't think we have recruited too badly over the last 3 years. Obviously only time will tell.

Cheers

 

[AngryAnt]

I suspect that those figures aren't as relevant as perhaps they should be. I would make the guess that they are overall VFL/AFL figures (when for most of the time clubs could bring in players "willy-nilly" for the occasional game), it would be better to have the figures which only were counted from when the draft first started and/or clubs were forced to have restricted numbers on their lists.

These days - with restricted list numbers - there should be much more chance of playing AFL senior games compared to the times when a club had a list of 50 or 60 players to choose from, so in theory the "Success Rate" (and average) should be much higher.

Just don't tell Benny Gale this when he uses the original numbers to justify more benefits for his members..........

That sounds right David - also as some in this forum have made the point that games played is maybe not a good indicator as a weak list will have to play weaker players more often.