Sydney Stack

[caesar]

You have to give the recruiters credit though for inviting Sydney to train before any other club's had the chance - that is not luck.

Absolutely!! and our recruiting team have been doing a brilliant job, I were just balancing the post where they were incredulous that other clubs passed Sydney over in the 2 drafts when we did too.

 

[Brimmy]

“He who dares wins”

Richmond took the punt........end of...

Our Recruiters kahunas are bigger than theirs.

If still not convinced go back to the start of this thread,you will find all the facts together with equal number of posters enthusiastically supporting the decision as inspired and those knocking it as complete folly.

You know who you are.

 

[TigerFlag2017]

Love how he described pre-season training as terrifying. Very honest.

I wonder if had he not been staying at the coach's house he may have thrown in the towel. This decision more than anything else is the masterstroke.

 

[bairdy380]

I'm more concerned at the instant fame aspect, which may translate in to less effort in coming years... Will be interesting to watch which way this talented player goes...

 

[Dont Argue]

Yeah I thought exactly that myself. For a guy with these supposed 'issues' in the past or whatever which led to us getting him, he spoke very well. You get a strong impression that (a) he's not stupid (and let's face it, some are dills even if brilliant at what they do); and (b) there's some real substance to him - genuine quality and not at all rehearsed media-speak. So all in all, pretty reassuring.

It's even harder to fathom how in the hell he slipped through.

I've been watching ( studying and mastur#ating over ) him closely now since he's debuted and cannot see one single flaw in his arsenal.
Most players have weaknesses. Dusty overhead isn't that strong. Cotchin isn't a penetrating kick. JackR isn't quick or particularly athletic.
Stackman has it all. I've rarely, if ever, seen a 19yr old with:
The core strength to stand up under serious physical attention and actually pull away from a tackle.
Mensa level football IQ to think his way through any situation and choose the right option.
Brute strength and aggression to hurt opponents.
Strong in the air.
Hits targets from 50m with bullet like passes and kicks 60m goals off one step using a torp for God's sake.
Has lightning speed and agility when required.

Can someone please pass me a tissue. I've just had another accident!

 

[tigerhalsey]

I'm more concerned at the instant fame aspect, which may translate in to less effort in coming years... Will be interesting to watch which way this talented player goes...

I agree with this, as long as he can stay grounded it will be amazing, however if it goes to his head then could be danger signs

 

[LeeToRainesToRoach]

Love how he described pre-season training as terrifying. Very honest.

I wonder if had he not been staying at the coach's house he may have thrown in the towel. This decision more than anything else is the masterstroke.

Different outcome (so far) to Troy Taylor. We helped him through his court case but it wasn't enough.

 

[cagedtiger]

Absolutely!! and our recruiting team have been doing a brilliant job, I were just balancing the post where they were incredulous that other clubs passed Sydney over in the 2 drafts when we did too.

Agree - it is amazing that no club would roll the dice with Stack in the draft - at the very least in the Rookie draft. I would guess people just trusted word of mouth negative views rather than doing their research - including the Tiges initially. That Stack was coming with a tag 'best available talent in WA' from Sumich, at least warranted taking a more than a peek at.

 

[mrposhman]

Agree - it is amazing that no club would roll the dice with Stack in the draft - at the very least in the Rookie draft. I would guess people just trusted word of mouth negative views rather than doing their research - including the Tiges initially. That Stack was coming with a tag 'best available talent in WA' from Sumich, at least warranted taking a more than a peek at.

My perception is that clubs didn't want to waste a list spot. Even with us, we essentially gave him a 3 month interview before giving him a job, ensuring that he passed the interview for the full 3 months, not just for a week or 2. The ND and RD don't offer you that flexibility.

 

[The_Celebrant]

I wonder if had he not been staying at the coach's house he may have thrown in the towel. This decision more than anything else is the masterstroke.

Can we crowdfund a big extension onto Dimma's house so we can bring in ten Stacks at a time?

 

[TigerFlag2017]

Can we crowdfund a big extension onto Dimma's house so we can bring in ten Stacks at a time?

Call it the Mrs Hardwick Fighting Fund.

 

[easy_tiger]

Can we crowdfund a big extension onto Dimma's house so we can bring in ten Stacks at a time?

;D

I'll buy a room with a window, if I can give the kid his official nickname

 

[Rabbia]

I've been watching ( studying and mastur#ating over ) him closely now since he's debuted and cannot see one single flaw in his arsenal.
Most players have weaknesses. Dusty overhead isn't that strong. Cotchin isn't a penetrating kick. JackR isn't quick or particularly athletic.
Stackman has it all. I've rarely, if ever, seen a 19yr old with:
The core strength to stand up under serious physical attention and actually pull away from a tackle.
Mensa level football IQ to think his way through any situation and choose the right option.
Brute strength and aggression to hurt opponents.
Strong in the air.
Hits targets from 50m with bullet like passes and kicks 60m goals off one step using a torp for God's sake.
Has lightning speed and agility when required.

Can someone please pass me a tissue. I've just had another accident!

The thing about DA's post here (and leaving aside this very unfortunate "accident") is that it's actually not overblown hyperbole, at all. Stack DOES have all of these attributes. Other posters have mentioned his composure - it's the DEGREE of that composure which is so remarkable, especially given his age.

For those who reference a possible concern about getting a 'big head' or whatever, well fair enough I guess. But that's another thing which came across from the RFC interview. Okay it's only a couple of minutes, so who knows ultimately, but from that, he just doesn't seem the type. At the same time, okay let's not lay too much on the kid, AFL is a tough gig, god forbid he might get injured - how would he react to that - and so on.

WITHOUT saying or suggesting anything, but just putting out a comparison, compare that interview with say Shai Bolton's recent. Again, I'm not saying anything 'bad' about Bolton, but of the two, you'd have to say Stack presents as a smart, level headed, tough, confident without being arrogant hombre. There's some significant mental strength there, from what I've seen.

About the only 'query' I'd have would be, where he plays at the moment - his position. Maybe it's...easier to shine, arguably. I'd be interested to hear from those more knowledgeable than me, just where they could see him wind up. Or does he need to to be able to move somewhere else anyway?

It is a bit of a mind boggle, thinking about him improving, which he will, surely.

 

[Baloo]

You've got to wonder at how many decent/good/great players just never get a chance in the AFL. Lambert overlooked for so many drafts it wasn't funny. Stack given the latest of lifelines.

Would have thought the money that goes into recruiting and drafting would be able to identify the kids a lot better

 

[lukeanddad]

You've got to wonder at how many decent/good/great players just never get a chance in the AFL. Lambert overlooked for so many drafts it wasn't funny. Stack given the latest of lifelines.

Would have thought the money that goes into recruiting and drafting would be able to identify the kids a lot better

Perhaps for every Sydney, there are 2 or 3 Troy Taylors? I suspect that most clubs will have had experiences with grouse footballers with troubled external influences who chose the wrong path. Dan Connors another...

 

[TigerFlag2017]

Perhaps for every Sydney, there are 2 or 3 Troy Taylors? I suspect that most clubs will have had experiences with grouse footballers with troubled external influences who chose the wrong path. Dan Connors another...

You could also ask how many talented kids did we destroy in the 90's ad 00's due to our football department ineptness? Richie Tambling comes to mind.

Same goes in more modern times for the Suns, Demons, Blues, etc.

 

[nikolasmia]

Different outcome (so far) to Troy Taylor. We helped him through his court case but it wasn't enough.

The difference is, Troy Taylor was a lazy self entitled millenial

Stack is a hardworking motivated millenial

 

[fastin bulbous]

The thing about DA's post here (and leaving aside this very unfortunate "accident") is that it's actually not overblown hyperbole, at all. Stack DOES have all of these attributes. Other posters have mentioned his composure - it's the DEGREE of that composure which is so remarkable, especially given his age.

For those who reference a possible concern about getting a 'big head' or whatever, well fair enough I guess. But that's another thing which came across from the RFC interview. Okay it's only a couple of minutes, so who knows ultimately, but from that, he just doesn't seem the type. At the same time, okay let's not lay too much on the kid, AFL is a tough gig, god forbid he might get injured - how would he react to that - and so on.

WITHOUT saying or suggesting anything, but just putting out a comparison, compare that interview with say Shai Bolton's recent. Again, I'm not saying anything 'bad' about Bolton, but of the two, you'd have to say Stack presents as a smart, level headed, tough, confident without being arrogant hombre. There's some significant mental strength there, from what I've seen.

About the only 'query' I'd have would be, where he plays at the moment - his position. Maybe it's...easier to shine, arguably. I'd be interested to hear from those more knowledgeable than me, just where they could see him wind up. Or does he need to to be able to move somewhere else anyway?

It is a bit of a mind boggle, thinking about him improving, which he will, surely.

The interview also seems to refute that rubbish the snu printed about him being stupid.

 

[easy_tiger]

The interview also seems to refute that rubbish the snu printed about him being stupid.

maybe they'll refer to him as 'the formerly troubled and formerly stupid AA back pocket'?

that the footy media are morons, and the sheer glory of Stackman, seem like the only certainties left in this world.

 

[LeeToRainesToRoach]

I've been watching ( studying and mastur#ating over ) him closely now since he's debuted and cannot see one single flaw in his arsenal.
Most players have weaknesses. Dusty overhead isn't that strong. Cotchin isn't a penetrating kick. JackR isn't quick or particularly athletic.
Stackman has it all. I've rarely, if ever, seen a 19yr old with:
The core strength to stand up under serious physical attention and actually pull away from a tackle.
Mensa level football IQ to think his way through any situation and choose the right option.
Brute strength and aggression to hurt opponents.
Strong in the air.
Hits targets from 50m with bullet like passes and kicks 60m goals off one step using a torp for God's sake.
Has lightning speed and agility when required.

Can someone please pass me a tissue. I've just had another accident!

Seems to have a decent tank on him for a kid. Plays good last quarters.