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Talking Politics
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Saw enough.
Albo was impressive head to head.
I can see why it was on Sky. The Murdoch facilitator flipped the narrative when things weren’t going well for Morrison.
Switched off once I recognised that happening a couple of times.
Albo was impressive head to head.
I can see why it was on Sky. The Murdoch facilitator flipped the narrative when things weren’t going well for Morrison.
Switched off once I recognised that happening a couple of times.
Damn I missed it, erm I mean I completely avoided it. So who won the big debate, was there a knock out of a flustered fool or simply a slow grind round by round points victory? Could be crucial in helping me decide not to bother voting again this erection.
Sky News concluded that it was a win of sorts for Albanese because he didn’t have another gaffe.
Andrew Bolt was quite complimentary of AA in fact.
What this actually means is that Albanese romped it in.
To my eye, Albanese was warmer, more passionate, more honest.
ScoMo just looked like the smug campaigner he is.
The segment on integrity was particularly fertile ground for Labor.
If only they didn’t have so many nufties in the crowd. Dunno where they find them, but half of them were absolute morons.
Andrew Bolt was quite complimentary of AA in fact.
What this actually means is that Albanese romped it in.
To my eye, Albanese was warmer, more passionate, more honest.
ScoMo just looked like the smug campaigner he is.
The segment on integrity was particularly fertile ground for Labor.
If only they didn’t have so many nufties in the crowd. Dunno where they find them, but half of them were absolute morons.
I didn't watch it but after reviewing various bits of footage from the night on socials I agree with this blokes take (and he's also a Tiges supporter) - this is the type of commentary I've been crying out for from our political leaders for yonks.
Instead of treating politics as a football game or simply opposing anything that the party in power does for the sake of being contrarian, find ways to work together for the good of the whole country. IMO, Scott isn't capable of this, nor is the Victorian opposition who just look to find negatives in whatever their opponents say.
Instead of treating politics as a football game or simply opposing anything that the party in power does for the sake of being contrarian, find ways to work together for the good of the whole country. IMO, Scott isn't capable of this, nor is the Victorian opposition who just look to find negatives in whatever their opponents say.
The Libs are clearly worried about the independents. We got a little flyer in the letter box today about how "dangerous" it would be to vote in an independent. Might lead to disasters such as:
A hung Parliament - hmm, the last hung parliament got heaps done.
They have no policies - umm, ScoMo, just what exactly is your plan? Yeah, no plan at all.
Economic uncertainty - with people working 2 or 3 jobs to survive, housing totally unaffordable, I'll take some of that uncertainty because this certainty is just certainty that you will be screwed unless you are rich.
We have never got anything from the Libs in previous elections. I've lived here for decades and the Libs have just assumed that Goldstein (previously Balaclava) was just pencilled in as a win for the Libs. Now they are sh!tting themselves and it is such fun to watch.
Makes you wonder what the internal LNP polling is telling them.
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A hung Parliament - hmm, the last hung parliament got heaps done.
They have no policies - umm, ScoMo, just what exactly is your plan? Yeah, no plan at all.
Economic uncertainty - with people working 2 or 3 jobs to survive, housing totally unaffordable, I'll take some of that uncertainty because this certainty is just certainty that you will be screwed unless you are rich.
We have never got anything from the Libs in previous elections. I've lived here for decades and the Libs have just assumed that Goldstein (previously Balaclava) was just pencilled in as a win for the Libs. Now they are sh!tting themselves and it is such fun to watch.
Makes you wonder what the internal LNP polling is telling them.
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Morrison has been talking tough on China and saying that Labor would be a risk to Australias security if they win the election.
How embarrassing for him, after dropping the ball in the Pacific, the best he can up with in regards to the Solomons-China security pact is...........the Solomon Islands government have said it would not allow any Chinese naval bases. lol Morrison believes in the tooth fairy too.
How embarrassing for him, after dropping the ball in the Pacific, the best he can up with in regards to the Solomons-China security pact is...........the Solomon Islands government have said it would not allow any Chinese naval bases. lol Morrison believes in the tooth fairy too.
The only punch Morrison landed was on the 'Turning back the boats' topic.
Albanese was a bit flaky on that response despite Labor's new stance on adopting Liberal policy.
Other than that I thought Albanese won the debate easily.
Albanese was a bit flaky on that response despite Labor's new stance on adopting Liberal policy.
Other than that I thought Albanese won the debate easily.
The fact that they are bringing back the “stop the boats” angle… something that hasn’t been an issue for many many years, tells us the liberals have nothing. Probably a deflection form the Solomon islands fiasco
and this morning ... ]
"Last night Pacific Minister Zed Seselja said Australia found out about the pact when it leaked online .." ???
after all this Govts banging on about China and Pacific Defence, this Solomons story is a real doozy. its egg on their face big time and includes the tale of the submarines ...
and haven't we leased part of Darwin Port to a Chinese company for 99 years ?
This - its very hard to transact with someone who has no relationship with the truth.
I hope Labor are planning to go for the jugular from mid may: lying, incompetance, corruption, rape.
There is just so many ammunition Labor can throw at them, it almost looks as if they don’t know where to start. Here is a bit of a list I have compiled... and i know i don't have them all:
- Joyce and the $80 million water scandal.
- Stuart Robert charging $30,000 for home internet.
- Gutting the ABC (despite promises in 2013 not to), installing Murdoch plants, then handing $40 million of free money to Foxtel.
- Gutting the NBN to help Murdoch and Foxtel. Then decides to hand it more funding after Murdoch moves into streaming services.
- Tripling debt and killing the economy.
- Lied about being "black in black" in 2019 when Australia was heading for a recession before COVID hit.
- Putting deliberate downward pressure on wages (at record levels).
- Big Business paying zero tax.
- The Franking Credits scam and the misinformation about it during the 2019 election campaign.
- The casualisation of the workforce which is at the highest rates ever seen in Australia and clearly contributing to the spread of COVID.
- Angus Taylor forging signatures.
- Morrison/McKenzie Sports Rorts during the 2019 election campaign.
- Joyce handing a well-paid job to his mistress.
- $444 million great barrier reef scam.
- Hello World paying for Mathias Cormann's flights, then winning a government contract.
- Taxpayer funded Philippine trips for Christiansen.
- Gladys Liu's obvious Chinese government links.
- Dodgy electoral advertising in 2019.
- Nick Zhao's suspicious death.
- Regional jobs rorts.
- Michaela Cash tipping off the media about the politically motivated GetUp raids.
- The politically motivated Royal Commission into Trade Unions, which found no corruption.
- $2 billion bushfire fund that never existed.
- Going to Hawaii during the bushfire crisis because Morrison "doesn't hold a hose."
- Morrison's own fishy preselection controversy re Towke.
- Morrison voted against the Banking Royal Commission 26 times.
- Morrison voted against the ICAC on numerous occasions.
- The monumental $60 billion accounting error.
- Robodebt (estimated 2000 suicides).
- Morrison learning of COVID in December 2019 and kept international borders open for months.
- The Ruby Princess stuff up and the Pentecostal links that allowed it to happen (Hawke Family).
- Paid Liberal Party donor 10 times its value for West Sydney Airport land.
- $38 billion in Jobkeeper being handed to people who were ineligible and people such as Gerry Harvey refusing to pay it back.
- $1.7 billion amount of money the federal government gutted from Aged Care in 2018 after the Royal Commission into aged care.
- wanting a Let It Rip COVID strategy from day 1, then claimed to have saved 40,000 lives.
- Failing to build dedicated Hotel quarantine facilities.
- The casualisation of the Aged Care sector where workers were switching between facilities and led to 655 deaths in Victoria.
- Letting people to access their super during COVID.
- Taxpayer funded RAAF jet for Cormann.
- Morrison refused to provide ADF personnel to help Victoria police its border with NSW during the Delta outbreak.
- Christian Porter controversies.
- The prayer room controversies.
- Tudge and $500,000 taxpayers money paid to an ex-lover.
- Dutton's dodgy business dealings (refer Friendly Jordies video), plus Paladin, Au Pair, etc.
- Numerous bullying accusations including Brittney Higgins, Christina Holgate, Liberal politicians, etc.
- Failed to procure vaccines.
- Failed to procure RATs.
Albo's got a bit more of a bounce this morning while ScoMo is busy sending out his troops to glorify his blessings.
Last night would be the last time you hear ScoMo claim the ALP are on China's side. When he tried that last night it fell really flat and the commentators there saying there were some groans from the audience.
Will see how it goes from here but I'm feeling better about this election than I was this time yesterday
Last night would be the last time you hear ScoMo claim the ALP are on China's side. When he tried that last night it fell really flat and the commentators there saying there were some groans from the audience.
Will see how it goes from here but I'm feeling better about this election than I was this time yesterday
I heard an interview on ABC radio this morning with Ann Ruston who will come in as Health Minister if the LNP is returned.
She is the perfect LNP Minister, she didn't answer one question. Straight out of the SCOMO talking points playbook.
The interviewer asked some pertinent questions, one of which the ALP will have to answer as well. The Medicare rates in GP practices are woefully inadequate and practices are abandoning bulk billing everywhere because they can't make a viable business. Most only have 2 choices, either close down or charge a gap fee. On top of that only 15% of all medical graduates want to go into general practice which is alarming for the future. They all want to go into medical specialties where the money is.
Something has to be done about this. The genesis was the medicare rate freeze that Rudd brought in going back to 2008 which lasted 6 years. The less than 20 minute consultation rate is about $39 and many GP practices in the wealthier suburbs charge more like $80-$85 and people just pay the $40+ gap fee.
This has to be addressed or we are going to have a crisis in primary GP care and that will lead to more and more people flooding hospital emergency departments. The issue is that the commonwealth pays for medicare and the states pay for hospitals = cost shifting !!!
The clinics the ALP announced are a very good idea but they will only work if the bulk bill rate they can charge increases from where it is, otherwise no GP practices will take up the offer. Some public hospitals have trialed this already by having a GP practice next to the Emergency department and have found that they have to subsidise the GP practice because they can't cover costs bulk billing and if they charge a gap the patient will opt to go to the hospital emergency department because it is free, even though the waiting time is long.
These are serious problems that needs a serious Minister, not a political parrot.
She is the perfect LNP Minister, she didn't answer one question. Straight out of the SCOMO talking points playbook.
The interviewer asked some pertinent questions, one of which the ALP will have to answer as well. The Medicare rates in GP practices are woefully inadequate and practices are abandoning bulk billing everywhere because they can't make a viable business. Most only have 2 choices, either close down or charge a gap fee. On top of that only 15% of all medical graduates want to go into general practice which is alarming for the future. They all want to go into medical specialties where the money is.
Something has to be done about this. The genesis was the medicare rate freeze that Rudd brought in going back to 2008 which lasted 6 years. The less than 20 minute consultation rate is about $39 and many GP practices in the wealthier suburbs charge more like $80-$85 and people just pay the $40+ gap fee.
This has to be addressed or we are going to have a crisis in primary GP care and that will lead to more and more people flooding hospital emergency departments. The issue is that the commonwealth pays for medicare and the states pay for hospitals = cost shifting !!!
The clinics the ALP announced are a very good idea but they will only work if the bulk bill rate they can charge increases from where it is, otherwise no GP practices will take up the offer. Some public hospitals have trialed this already by having a GP practice next to the Emergency department and have found that they have to subsidise the GP practice because they can't cover costs bulk billing and if they charge a gap the patient will opt to go to the hospital emergency department because it is free, even though the waiting time is long.
These are serious problems that needs a serious Minister, not a political parrot.