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Josh is in a bit of strife. He's managed to screw the Guidedogs Victoria CEO and a couple of other charity CEOs, reports that one of his campaign posters featuring the local scout group has been used without the parents parents permission.

Looking forward to a bit of Schadenfrydenberg after the election.
 
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Albo coming down with COVID is a good opportunity for the like of Chalmers, Wong, Burke, Marles, Plibersek, Bowen etc to profile themselves.
They'll run rings around the likes of Dutton, McKenzie, Cash, Joyce, Fletcher, Taylor, Tudge and Hawke, and have a whole lot more integrity.
 
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Watching the Jason Clare Presser. Another very good performer. He's impressive.

Payne has refused to debate Penny Wong. Fair enough I guess. Looking like a weak gutless politician is probably better than complete career suicide
 
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Brodders17 said:
Why blessed? Does he think god rewards good people and punishes bad?
the man is an arrogant fool who offended many many people, while at the same time betraying his true attitude to people with a disability. (which is reflected in what this current government is doing to the NDIS.)
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Blessed is probably where he stepped over the mark. But I'm sorry, I don't think the rest of it is saying anything that denigrates the disabled. You can have a huge amount of admiration for the way those with disabilities can overcome their challenges and make massive successes of their lives, and still be grateful that your children don't have to face those challenges in their lives.
 
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Watching the Jason Clare Presser. Another very good performer. He's impressive.

Payne has refused to debate Penny Wong. Fair enough I guess. Looking like a weak gutless politician is probably better than complete career suicide
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Cash refuses to debate Mark Dreyfus.
Colbeck refuses to debate Clare O'Neil.
Rutson refuses to debate anyone.
 
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spook said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1517299147656769536
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never heard of him,

but he ladles gravy over truth like Keating did (same electorate?)

hellelujah.

I think Albo will lead very well, but he's a pretty ordinary campaigner and parliamentary performer.

Morrison is very good at both, so that tells us something.

but jeez, I feel like I just saw the political equivalent of $hai Boltons debut
 
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eZyT said:
never heard of him,

but he ladles gravy over truth like Keating did (same electorate?)

hellelujah.

I think Albo will lead very well, but he's a pretty ordinary campaigner and parliamentary performer.

Morrison is very good at both, so that tells us something.

but jeez, I feel like I just saw the political equivalent of $hai Boltons debut
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I agree he was pretty impressive in those short clips. Reckon Labor wins anyway but they would be an even greater chance with a leader like that. Elbow may turn out to be a good PM but he does not command a great presence.
 
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Read a good article recently talking about the way that political parties have disconnected from the constituencies which they sprang from and have ceased to be mass membership parties. The membership levels of our parties now are woeful, way less than they used to be.

One paragraph from the article is worth quoting:

The last decades of the twentieth century thus witnessed ‘a gradual but also inexorable withdrawal of the parties from the realm of civil society towards the realm of government and the state’. As Mair emphasizes, this ‘withdrawal of the elites’ has been paralleled by citizen disengagement, with steady falls in average turnout, decade by decade, and the ‘passing of popular involvement’ in political life. The process involved a downgrading of ‘the party on the ground’ in favour of ‘the party in parliament’, or in government, as leaders opted—to use another of Mair’s memorable pairs of concepts—for ‘responsibility’ at the expense of ‘responsiveness’. And while parties have drawn farther away from their voters, they have moved closer to each other: ‘What remains is a governing class.’
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The article is by Wolfgang Streek who is a German political sociologist. The article is quite short and is a review of Peter Mair's book: Ruling the Void: The Hollowing of Western Democracy and although the book was published in 2013 and the review in 2014 it is certainly more than relevant today. You can find the full article here: https://wolfgangstreeck.com/2014/07/01/the-politics-of-exit/ although I have a later version published in Streek's book Critical Encounters.

For all that I am very critical of representative democracy, it's weakening is not a cause of celebration as society is more and more controlled by a plutocracy and populism is on the rise.

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Labor bat deep. Albo going into isolation might result in Labor running away this election.

Jason Clare very impressive. Problem for Scomo is he won't be able to lay a finger on him. Unbelievable such a fraud made it to PM of this country.
 
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When Morrison gets his arse kicked at the election, as a matter of good will, Albo should offer him the Ambassadors job for Taiwan.
 
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Sintiger said:
What SCOMO said to that parent is just part of a theme with him. It’s basically showing pity or sympathy but what people want is leadership, they want him to do something they don’t want his pity.
This is what he does, it’s similar to the “thoughts and prayers” we get from politicians these days.
He doesn’t get it, we need and want leadership from a PM not *smile* thoughts and prayers and sympathy.
In all this one thing was missed from the exchange and that’s that he didn’t actually answer her question which was asking him to do something. SCOMO is an expert on not doing anything.
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of course he didnt actually mention funding- his gov has done what they can to gut the NDIS. They didnt want it when it was introduced, and they still dont but they are stuck with it.
 
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