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Ian4 said:
Latest Newspoll remains steady at 53/47 TPP, but the Liberals primary vote is down.

Even Resolve Strategic (the dodgy pollster who has close links to Scott Morrison) has TPP at 54/46.

One thing that’s interesting to note (but not getting any media) is that the Greens primary vote, which usually hovers around the 8-10% mark has been consistently getting around the 14-15% mark in all of these polls.



i got $2.65 for an independent to win Kooyong 2 months ago and $2.20 for Goldstein. Now its $2.10 for an independent to win both Kooyong and Goldstein.

I'm not sure why you think Josh has any chance to retain Kooyong. Monique Ryan internal polling from 2 weeks ago had her at 59/41 TPP. Of course, it’s easy to be sceptical of internal polling of yourself, but even if its out by 5-6%. She’s still comfortably ahead.

The massive Herald Scum puff piece yesterday is all the evidence you need to know how screwed they think he is.

An interesting sidenote to this is Ted Baillieu’s son is heavily campaigning for Dr Ryan.
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Greens won’t get anymore than 10% of the vote.

I think there are voters who tell the internal polls they are going to vote Greens and then vote the Libs. Hence the silent majority talk.

I know someone who done this before. His reasoning was to shine more on the Greens full policy so that swinging voters get scared and vote Libs on polling day.

For example how many people know that horse racing will be banned under Green’s policy?
 
DavidSSS said:
That'll be difficult unless you are referring to the State election in November.

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It would be close to impossible as the ALP wouldn’t accept it. And yes state governments control racing so it’s not going to happen. It is however a policy they have on their website, so people will review it as one and same for the party in both Fed and State.

With so many policies that many mainstream people won’t accept but are wanting action on climate change you can see why the independents are putting their hand up as they won’t get near it on the Green’s full policy bundle. I think an excellent climate change independent should go up against the Green’s as well.
 
MB78 said:
It would be close to impossible as the ALP wouldn’t accept it. And yes state governments control racing so it’s not going to happen. It is however a policy they have on their website, so people will review it as one and same for the party in both Fed and State.

With so many policies that many mainstream people won’t accept but are wanting action on climate change you can see why the independents are putting their hand up as they won’t get near it on the Green’s full policy bundle. I think an excellent climate change independent should go up against the Green’s as well.
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Let's face it, the Greens have never been even close to competitive in the seats the Teal Independents are running in, I know, I'm in Goldstein.

But Adam Bandt was asked today about the Greens better poll numbers and his impression was that the independents' focus on climate change was bolstering the Greens support elsewhere.

I don't think the independents are a response to Greens' policies, they are a response to the Libs being so right wing. The Greens, if anything, benefit from the independents.

While I can't see horse racing being abolished, I really can't see a lot of redeeming features in horse racing either. It exists for gambling, horses get injured and put down, animal cruelty seems to be just part of the sport.

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Tigers of Old said:
No wonder Greg Hunt did a runner. Rotten to the core.

www.abc.net.au

The former chair of a company that profited off the pandemic reveals how it got political 'access'

The former chairman and co-founder of Aspen Medical tells Four Corners how the company obtained access to senior ranks of the Coalition government before it made more than $1 billion from the pandemic.
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I watched this last night and my jaw nearly touched the ground for the whole 43 minutes. Greg Hunt and Michael Wooldridge have some serious, serious questions to answer. The whole St Basil’s saga was outrageous.
 
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I've said more than once that there should be a royal commission into lobbyist's The first thing a retiring politician, or one who loses their seat does is become a lobbyist............this from AFR in 2020.

"At the National Press Club’s health policy debate during last year’s federal election, Greg Hunt was asked by Tim Shaw – yes, the Demtel guy – “when will you authorise the vaping product alternative [to cigarettes]?”

Hunt responded unequivocally: “That is not something that on my watch I’m willing to countenance”, “It’s not something I support”, “no, that’s not what I’m proposing” and, for good measure, “So long as I’m in the role, that won’t be something… that we’ll be adopting”.

Greg Hunt's vaping backflip is causing the Health Minister big political headaches. Alex Ellinghausen

Incidentally, Hunt added that “I know Michael Wooldridge is in the room and I acknowledge him and all the health ministers who have been part of this”.

Given that authorising vaping was not something Hunt was willing to countenance so long as he was the Health Minister, it was a rude shock when in March 2020, his department and the Therapeutic Goods Administration sought to do so – by allowing nicotine vapes to be sold from a pharmacy with a (quarterly) doctor’s prescription. In response, the Pharmacy Guild of Australia said it “does not support the sale of personal vaporisers in pharmacies, regardless of whether or not they contain nicotine”.

An estimated 2.5 per cent of the Australian 14+ population (or about 520,000 people) use e-cigarettes according to the 2019 National Drug Strategy Household Survey. Currently, Australians can buy liquid nicotine cartridges only from overseas suppliers and ship them home under the TGA’s Personal Importation Scheme. In June, Hunt had to delay a ban on this scheme until January, following a revolt among Coalition backbenchers.

Last Wednesday, the TGA confirmed the interim rescheduling of nicotine “other than in tobacco prepared and packed for smoking”, which is expected to be made final in early 2021.

Two days earlier, the National Retail Association – its members being small convenience operators that derive a material proportion of revenues from the sale of cigarettes – wrote to Coalition backbenchers complaining that“the deliberate exclusion of family and small businesses being able to participate in the sale of these less harmful alternatives to cigarettes is unconscionable, illogical and indefensible” and that “it can only be concluded, given the community pharmacy opposition to vaping, that the regulatory reform proposal as progressed will do nothing more than hand a virtual monopoly right to retail these products to a narrow cohort of highly concentrated ‘big box’ pharmacy commercial interests”.

Australia’s big box pharmacy duopoly operators are Chemist Warehouse (with 300 stores) and Australian Pharmaceutical Industries (1500 stores), which owns chemist brands Priceline and Soul Pattinson. Dr Michael Wooldridge served as a non-executive director of API between 2006 and 2014. His lobbying firm, The Strategic Counsel, is now API’s registered lobbyist.

Hunt made a seething phone call to NRA chief executive Dominique Lamblast week, taking exception to her correspondence with his joint party room colleagues. Through a spokesperson, Hunt insisted the conversation "was polite and calm at all times". A heavily pregnant Lamb gave birth the next day, though we’re sure the ministerial opprobrium wasn’t labour-inducing. It does sound like vintage Greg Hunt, who had to apologise publicly in 2018 for telling Katherine mayor Fay Miller to, among other things, “f---ing get over it”.

The real question is why Hunt would be gaslighting his stakeholders. After all, it’s his backflip!

The regime should create an additional 2 million GP visits per year, though, like many doctors, former Australian Medical Association president Mukesh Haikerwal won’t be prescribing vapes because “they actually get young people into smoking, rather than helping them get off it”. Which was Hunt’s (and the TGA’s) problem with vaping in the first place!

The Age reported last month that another Wooldridge client, Aspen Medical, had been awarded contracts by Hunt’s department worth $1.2 billion since March. Wooldridge sat on Aspen Medical’s board until October last year, when his overturned ban from serving as a company director was reinstated by the full bench of the Federal Court. Disgraced Labor senator Sam Dastyari is also an Aspen Medical lobbyist. "

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Michael Wooldridge a rare winner in Greg Hunt's vaping mess

Greg Hunt said he'd never countenance authorising the use of e-cigarettes in Australia. He's now doing precisely that.
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Roy Morgan Poll 55.5/44.5 TPP, which represents Labor winning 25 seats.

10.4% swing in Victoria.

Many have been talking about Labor taking Hawke, Chisholm and possibly Deakin, and Independents taking Goldstein, Kooyong and possibly Flinders in Victoria.

But if the 10.4% holds on election day, the Libs will also lose Higgins, La Trobe, Casey, Monash, and Menzies in Victoria.
 
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spook said:
Walking proof of the truism "not all conservative voters are stupid, but most stupid people vote conservative".
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if you need to prove youre not a pedophile to work with kids,

you really should have to prove your not a complete moron

to vote.
 
Ian4 said:
Roy Morgan Poll 55.5/44.5 TPP, which represents Labor winning 25 seats.

10.4% swing in Victoria.

Many have been talking about Labor taking Hawke, Chisholm and possibly Deakin, and Independents taking Goldstein, Kooyong and possibly Flinders in Victoria.

But if the 10.4% holds on election day, the Libs will also lose Higgins, La Trobe, Casey, Monash, and Menzies in Victoria.
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Get ready for the Murdoch led dirt campaign to ramp up. The MSM will go hard to keep their government in power. And there's only a small percentage of the voting population who would use alternate sources for news.
 
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Baloo said:
Get ready for the Murdoch led dirt campaign to ramp up. The MSM will go hard to keep their government in power. And there's only a small percentage of the voting population who would use alternate sources for news.
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They are about to have a massive crack. there is no doubt about it.

I am hearing rumours of another sex scandal on the verge of being made public.
 
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