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Somehow get a better govt by selecting from the candidates on offer????????????????????????????? Yeah , Nah. Not gunna happen any time soon.
Clive's mob, Pauline's mob, Holmes a Court's mob, Labor mob, Liberal mob, Greenie mob, Fiona's mob oh wait, she's already tarted herself off to Dan's local mob n suddenly realised she doesn't like the after effects. FMD when there's nothing but crap worth choosing from, I'd rather go hungry, at least I won't give myself food poisoning.

So why don't you stand?

You keep telling us how bad all the candidates are, do you consider yourself even worse?

DS
 
That tool in the Victorian Upper House whose name I will not mention but rhymes with gin or bin....
well, he's a real *smile* knuckle dragger and should be politely or otherwise asked by the club to stop wearing a Richmond tie in public!
Please don't let me hear he's ever actually an invited guest of the club!
 
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IBAC decides whether hearings/interviews are public or not. As I understand it the decision is about the investigation not the person.
Not according to Robert Redlich of IBAC when speaking to a parliamentary hearing, according to today's Murdochracy. Give ya one guess who put even tighter restrictions on Mickey Mouse BAC a couple of years ago.

Damn. Shame on me for reading the Murdochracy propaganda.
 
Well, the Libs really are worried in the Teal seats.

Phantom Wilson, out local member in Goldstein, has just dropped a 12 page leaflet in our letter boxes. We never heard a peep out of him before. The leaflet is all about how much they are doing for the country and for the local area. Interestingly, especially given the leaflets the Libs have put out about the independents, this whole 12 page leaflet did not mention the independents at all. It also didn't mention the ALP, was all about what they are supposedly doing. Claims credit for turning the old Elsternwick Golf Course into a nature reserve, none of us can remember him being anywhere near this when the future of the golf course was being decided. Then, the really big claim: that this government has been the first to have a comprehensive plan for net zero emissions by 2050. It's laughable for the LNP to claim they are somehow doing anything at all about climate change, we all know this is total bollocks.

But also, it does indicate that people are sick of the relentless negative campaigning by the LNP. When you are in government you need to sell what you have done or are doing, but this mob are so incompetent they have little to sell. But they seem to feel the need to make claims now. Interesting.

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Not according to Robert Redlich of IBAC when speaking to a parliamentary hearing, according to today's Murdochracy. Give ya one guess who put even tighter restrictions on Mickey Mouse BAC a couple of years ago.

Damn. Shame on me for reading the Murdochracy propaganda.
No idea what the rags said but The Age (a semi rag these days) made the following point

Under its act, when questioning witnesses in public, the commission must be satisfied there are reasonable grounds to conclude the witnesshas acted corruptly, or that it is in the public interest to examine the witness publicly and that no unreasonable damage will be done to their reputation.

In other words if IBAC believes that there is no evidence that the witness acted corruptly and also that by interviewing that witness in public damage could be done to their reputation which is unfair because the witness has not acted corruptly then they cannot be interviewed in public. Clearly that was the case with the Premier, he was not suspected of anything and under the act they must protect him from unfair reputational damage.

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/...-grill-premier-in-secret-20220509-p5ajo5.html
 
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It's going to be a wipeout. You can't fool all of the people all of the time, and nobody likes to be made to look foolish. Plenty of those who voted LNP last time know they were played for suckers and are furious. As the saying goes, voters are heading to the polls with baseball bats. No media shitfuckery can change that now.

I voted yesterday.

I was champing at the bit.

The yellow wiggle saw me pull up in a muddy old ute and get out in cowboy boots and a flanny,

And tried to give me the encumbents how to vote Nationals card.

I said calmly,

'I wouldnt urinate on your bloke if he was on fire'
 
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I see a lot of political boffins, whom I rate, saying that seat-by-seat polling shouldn’t be trusted.

Why is this?

It’s a genuine question.

If you poll, say, 1000 people in an electorate of 100k, why is that less value than a poll of, say, 1400, nationally?

If you apply the same weighting metrics, how is it so different?

This ain’t my wheelhouse, but what am I missing here?

The major parties do seat-by-seat polling and that’s how they allocate resources.

Again, genuine question, what am I missing?
 
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I see a lot of political boffins, whom I rate, saying that seat-by-seat polling shouldn’t be trusted.

Why is this?

It’s a genuine question.

If you poll, say, 1000 people in an electorate of 100k, why is that less value than a poll of, say, 1400, nationally?

If you apply the same weighting metrics, how is it so different?

This ain’t my wheelhouse, but what am I missing here?

The major parties do seat-by-seat polling and that’s how they allocate resources.

Again, genuine question, what am I missing?

Yeah great question... I found this blog that tries to answer this. Good read.

Essentially he says we don't know exactly because the pollsters don't really tell us how they do seat polling, but he suspects that sample sizes are smaller, and the algorithms used to account for the types of people who are robocalled (yes it's robocalling) and are willing to be polled cannot be controlled for as well as they can be with a national sample, as the demographic info for seats is much less accurate.

The smaller populations in individual seats are also more volatile (in terms of moving) and also in terms of voting intention, local issues/candidates and all that whereas at the national level those local issues tend to cancel each other out.

Pollsters also display "herding" behaviour, they don't want to be an outlier so will "correct" results if they are way off what other pollsters are finding.

All in all the process seems totally dicked up

 
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I see a lot of political boffins, whom I rate, saying that seat-by-seat polling shouldn’t be trusted.

Why is this?

It’s a genuine question.

If you poll, say, 1000 people in an electorate of 100k, why is that less value than a poll of, say, 1400, nationally?

If you apply the same weighting metrics, how is it so different?

This ain’t my wheelhouse, but what am I missing here?

The major parties do seat-by-seat polling and that’s how they allocate resources.

Again, genuine question, what am I missing?

apart form 2019 (where Labor was 51-49 and polls have always had a small margin of error), i cannot think of a time where election results have gone against polls.

I noted that The Australian posted another poll stating Frydenberg and Wilson are done. I am also hearing Dutton is sh!tting bricks. Not just at loosing his seat, but ICAC.
 
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What i dont understand is why the polls dont say

20/80 against these incompetant corrupt *smile*?

I honestly dont.
 
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apart form 2019 (where Labor was 51-49 and polls have always had a small margin of error), i cannot think of a time where election results have gone against polls.

I noted that The Australian posted another poll stating Frydenberg and Wilson are done. I am also hearing Dutton is sh!tting bricks. Not just at loosing his seat, but ICAC.

I spent the last quarter of 2017 beleiving in God.

If Dutton went to gaol,

Id renew my faith.
 
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apart form 2019 (where Labor was 51-49 and polls have always had a small margin of error), i cannot think of a time where election results have gone against polls.

I noted that The Australian posted another poll stating Frydenberg and Wilson are done. I am also hearing Dutton is sh!tting bricks. Not just at loosing his seat, but ICAC.
The online HS is also saying that Fraudenberg is done.

They’re also saying that polling shows a massive working female backlash against Dud-mo will occur around the country - something a friend of mine who works very closely with a number of senior ministers in Canberra told me a few months ago.

Needless to say both articles have been pushed back off the headline articles at the front of their website, and sit in the secondary level of news items.

Election night is going to be fascinating.
 
The online HS is also saying that Fraudenberg is done.

They’re also saying that polling shows a massive working female backlash against Dud-mo will occur around the country - something a friend of mine who works very closely with a number of senior ministers in Canberra told me a few months ago.

Needless to say both articles have been pushed back off the headline articles at the front of their website, and sit in the secondary level of news items.

Election night is going to be fascinating.

unfortunately, it clashes with the dreamtime game :mhihi

i really wanted to watch the car crash.
 
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Just went and voted.... I was gonna call it like being attacked by a pack of hyenas ..... but wondered if that's the correct collective noun. Alas, it's a CACKLE of hyenas. ... oh so appropriate!

Interesting approach from the Palmer doorstopper.... tried to pass himself off as an independent. ..
"Ya wearing a shirt that says PARTY on it mate..... that doesn't sound very independent!"
Drew a blank! Next!
 
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