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tigersnake said:
I don't reckon. Turnbull won because Abbott's extremeism was a disaster. Labor would have walked in if he'd stayed. Bolt is off his head. He looked drunk in that you-tube baloo posted
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Internal Liberal party polling showed that with Abbott as leader, the Libs/Nats would have lost 30 seats.
 
IanG said:
Turnbull's speech last night was bizarre, completely failing to read the mood of the night.
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He looked very rattled, and well might he be, with such a close result he will have those on his far right baying for blood.
 
So we don't know the result.
And we all wait anxiously while the Australian Electoral Office.................
Has 2 days off.

Counting resumes on Tuesday.

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IanG said:
Turnbull's speech last night was bizarre, completely failing to read the mood of the night.
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What was the mood of the night?* That the ALP did better than expected but still lost; that the ALP recorded their second lowest ever primary vote ever yet should go in to party mode. Never seen a loss celebrated so much. *Though i agree that Turnbull's speech was diabolical.

Baloo said:
Hmmm, AEC have it as 71 ALP and 67 LNP. With 7 undecided that means the LNP cannot form a majority Government.
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Couldn't it be 78 - 67 then or are the LNP not in the running for some of the undecided seats?


rosy3 said:
Or so they tell you at least.
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Yeah think that might be some spin.
 
I haven't mailed my postal vote yet. The 2 main people I wanted to be there have both been successful already. McGowan and Hinch didn't really need my vote but got it anyway. I wonder how much Hinch will stir the pot. If he helps make us safer from deviants and sexual predators I'm happy for him to be there.
 
jb03 said:
Couldn't it be 78 - 67 then or are the LNP not in the running for some of the undecided seats?
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67+7 is 74. You need 75 for a majority. 76 for a majority and your own speaker..

Yeah think that might be some spin.
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Not really. Politicians are fairly selfish. If the polls suggested the bulk would end up jobless unde Abbott, they wouldn't keep him around.
 
poppa x said:
So we don't know the result.
And we all wait anxiously while the Australian Electoral Office.................
Has 2 days off.

Counting resumes on Tuesday.

??? ??? ??? ???
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Waiting for postal votes and absentee votes?
 
Yes we do poppa. They say they have to be received within 13 days after polling day.
 
So here's why counting stops:

WHY HAS THE VOTE COUNTING STOPPED?
Counting stopped at 2am on Sunday morning and will not resume until Tuesday. On the night of the election, the Australian Electoral Commission only counts “ordinary votes” from polling places.

That means first preference and two-candidate-preferred votes for House of Representatives ballot papers, and first preferences for the Senate ballot papers.
The AEC says it has counted more than 11 million House of Representatives votes.
Counting of absentee and postal votes is carried out in the week after election day. This year, about 2.5 million people cast their votes early.
After counting stopped on Sunday, all ballots will now be sent to secure locations in each electorate for counting.
This was one of the recommendations of a review into the bungled WA Senate vote in 2013, which saw 1370 ballots go missing, forcing a fresh election and leading to the resignation of the head of the AEC.
“The AEC’s focus today [Sunday] is on the declaration vote exchange,” the AEC said in a statement.
“The declaration vote exchange is where the large numbers of absent, interstate, postal and other declaration votes are reconciled, sorted and packaged ready for dispatch to the home division from Monday.
“Only once the declaration votes are received and processed in the home division can the counting of these votes begin. Any counting today will be limited to the small numbers of votes collected by AEC mobile teams.
“On Monday, the AEC will continue the process of verifying more than one million postal votes already returned to the AEC so that they can be admitted to the count beginning on Tuesday.”
The AEC says while that is going on, the count of pre-poll Senate votes and “any remaining House of Representatives ordinary pre-poll votes not already counted on Saturday” may resume on Monday.
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http://www.news.com.au/national/federal-election/federal-election-2016-vote-counting-has-stopped-so-what-happens-now/news-story/c247b8f17177c2a8ef98a4d032ca40c8

In other words, it's making your vote more secure. Normally we'd get a result on the Saturday night despite this, as enough seats are called for one party or the other other to declare they can form a government. It's only when it's very close like this election that it becomes a problem. And the AEC keeps working on the declaration sorting, so work doesn't stop.

Of course for the easily outraged it's bureaucracy, unions and political correctness gone mad :hihi
 
Speaking of secure votes does anyone know why they are done in (erasable) pencil and not pen like other official forms?
 
rosy3 said:
Speaking of secure votes does anyone know why they are done in (erasable) pencil and not pen like other official forms?
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http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-36597367

Same conversation was had regarding Brexit with the loonies complaining that MI5 or whoever would individually erase "Leave" votes and replace with "Remain" votes. The reason is prosaic - The AEC has to stockpile large numbers of ballots, boxes, writing implements etc and pencils keep a whole lot longer on the shelf than pens.

There's nothing stopping you from taking your own pen and using it if you are a member of the tin foil hat brigade concerned about this issue.
 
Mal's already ringing up the Independents to see if they will support his minority government. Andrew Wilkie's already told him to sod off :hihi
 
Bummed Windsor didn't win. He succeeded in exposing Joyce for the inept fraud that he is once and for all, but it did him no good whatsoever, Joyce's vote increased. Anyone see the speech Joyce gave at the Press Club? OMG, this person is our deputy PM. Second in charge of the nation. Just goes to show you the conservative side of politics has no truck with rational, non-ideological politicians.
 
I saw it. My first thought was that they had started the liquid celebrations early in the night.
 
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