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I read about this Knighter. The one the did in the USA cost $100,000,000 in US $.

If it's at a reasonable cost they should get it done quicksmart.
 
Royal roost up the arse for the Libs in WA.

I don't consider myself to be someone who has a lot of faith in politicians, but the incredible waste of boom-time money at both state and federal levels astounds and angers me. Barnett in WA, Howard and Costello (the biggie, could have rebuilt most of our infrastructure), Beattie and Bligh in QLD (had less dough than WA to blow but still substantial), once in a lifetime period of boom government revenues, no infrastructure built, money effectively p!ssed up against the wall.
 
tigersnake said:
Royal roost up the arse for the Libs in WA.

I don't consider myself to be someone who has a lot of faith in politicians, but the incredible waste of boom-time money at both state and federal levels astounds and angers me. Barnett in WA, Howard and Costello (the biggie, could have rebuilt most of our infrastructure), Beattie and Bligh in QLD (had less dough than WA to blow but still substantial), once in a lifetime period of boom government revenues, no infrastructure built, money effectively p!ssed up against the wall.

I put a TV on my wall.
 
bullus_hit said:
I put a TV on my wall.

Yep. You'd be stoked with Howard if you had shares in Harvey Norman.

I mean fair dinkum, re WA and QLD, everyone knows its a boom, everyone knows that the boom will end, yet these clowns spend like the boom is the new normal and will never end, then when it ends go broke straight away, then fall into deep debt, and say 'it wasn't my fault the boom ended'.
 
tigersnake said:
Royal roost up the arse for the Libs in WA.

I don't consider myself to be someone who has a lot of faith in politicians, but the incredible waste of boom-time money at both state and federal levels astounds and angers me. Barnett in WA, Howard and Costello (the biggie, could have rebuilt most of our infrastructure), Beattie and Bligh in QLD (had less dough than WA to blow but still substantial), once in a lifetime period of boom government revenues, no infrastructure built, money effectively p!ssed up against the wall.

Glad I am not alone on the waste opportunities of the Howard Costello regime. Been banging on about it for years. Credit for GST intro but then gave away all the boom time surplus to the middle class who are now glued to the public teat when we can least afford it. Who would have guessed the mining music would stop? Almost inconceivable that they blew the profits from the longest bull market in history. Now we are left playing catch up footy with piecemeal projects like Melb metro tunnel, SA gas, freeway widening.
 
22nd Man said:
Glad I am not alone on the waste opportunities of the Howard Costello regime. Been banging on about it for years. Credit for GST intro but then gave away all the boom time surplus to the middle class who are now glued to the public teat when we can least afford it. Who would have guessed the mining music would stop? Almost inconceivable that they blew the profits from the longest bull market in history. Now we are left playing catch up footy with piecemeal projects like Melb metro tunnel, SA gas, freeway widening.

Howard also caused the problems in the housing market, we had relative normality until he started giving tax breaks to investors.
 
TL:DW

(too long, didn't write) a response that is.

Edit - I should explain. I did start to get into one of my usual rants. But about 2000 words in, I decided it was all too much effort for nothing. I remember being given 500 or 1000 word essays to write when I was in high school. Back then it was counting the words on each line trying to come up with something passable. Why is it that these days I can come up with thousands of words of informative, unbiased opinion without even breaking a sweat ???
 
Desperate Malcolm in the Middle now trying to put his 'right to be a bigot' change, which he doesn't even support himself, through the senate first rather than the house because he's scared it could be beaten there by just one lib crossing the floor. He must be hoping it gets beaten in the senate so he saves face in the house.
 
1eyedtiger said:
TL:DW

(too long, didn't write) a response that is.

Edit - I should explain. I did start to get into one of my usual rants. But about 2000 words in, I decided it was all too much effort for nothing. I remember being given 500 or 1000 word essays to write when I was in high school. Back then it was counting the words on each line trying to come up with something passable. Why is it that these days I can come up with thousands of words of informative, unbiased opinion without even breaking a sweat ???

Yeah I can write about a word a second these days when in rant mode. :hihi
 
YinnarTiger said:
Desperate Malcolm in the Middle now trying to put his 'right to be a bigot' change, which he doesn't even support himself, through the senate first rather than the house because he's scared it could be beaten there by just one lib crossing the floor. He must be hoping it gets beaten in the senate so he saves face in the house.

Just out of interest, who do you think the racial and religious vilification laws are designed to protect?
 
Looksl lke these changes are dead in the water cos the crossbenchers have told Mal to GGF. So instead of a triumphant Trumpesque victory against PC, the Libs look like an incompetent set of culture warriors. Again.
 
antman said:
Looksl lke these changes are dead in the water cos the crossbenchers have told Mal to GGF. So instead of a triumphant Trumpesque victory against PC, the Libs look like an incompetent set of culture warriors. Again.

That said, I have never understood the changes to 18c and I really don't like that "offence" can be illegal. Shouldn't a case have been made that the existing laws were failing with reference to cases with unsatisfactory outcomes? Perhaps I wasn't following closely enough but the changes to 18c seemed arbitrary at the time
 
KnightersRevenge said:
That said, I have never understood the changes to 18c and I really don't like that "offence" can be illegal. Shouldn't a case have been made that the existing laws were failing with reference to cases with unsatisfactory outcomes? Perhaps I wasn't following closely enough but the changes to 18c seemed arbitrary at the time

Yeah, I'm not that fussed on the current wording either. But Mal and the others could only ever cite Bill Leak and the QUT student cases as a problem, and both of those prosecutions failed (IIRC). It's culture wars, pure and simple, and mostly to placate the lunatic right of the Libs and shore up Mal's position.
 
antman said:
But Mal and the others could only ever cite Bill Leak and the QUT student cases as a problem, and both of those prosecutions failed (IIRC).
Yeah they failed, but the time, money and stress involved should never have happened. This will continue as long as 18c exists.