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I just finished reading The Football Solution, How Richmond’s Premiership can Save Australia by George Megalogenis the last chapter is brilliant. He sums up that short term vision for opinion polls controls everything that they are about.
 
MB78 said:
I just finished reading The Football Solution, How Richmond’s Premiership can Save Australia by George Megalogenis the last chapter is brilliant. He sums up that short term vision for opinion polls controls everything that they are about.
Democracy is not all its cracked up to be.
 
Sintiger said:
The issues that the Greens have had with the NSW branch are not new and have been highlighted a few times in programs on the ABC over the last year or so.
Yep clearly remember the 7:30 report piece about 18 months ago on the NSW Greens. A party being hijacked by bizarre, militant radical Marxist groups who have graduated through University activism and generally HATE everything about western society. Essentially inner-city radicals who are more at home trashing a McDonald's restaurant, or throwing eggs at a bloke minding his own business - but wearing a suit (obviously a symbol of capitalism) - at an anti-globalisation rally, than attending a forest protest. In truth, probably haven't ever stepped foot in a forest.
 
Giardiasis said:
Sure, so do we just ignore trade then and forever remain in perpetual autarky? So should Tasmania aim for energy security? What about Hobart? Why limit yourself to nations?

Why limit yourself to energy? What about food security? Construction materials security? Weapons security?

https://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/australian-economy/coalition-under-fire-as-australias-onshore-fuel-stockpiles-reach-worrying-lows/news-story/5a3c92c103a50d903f00a72ff1314d5c

In a nation that has close to the highest reserves of energy per head of population, Gia, you will disagree with me, but I still maintain that this is unforgivable.

Australia certainly is a lucky country (in terms of being kissed on the *smile* by a fairy for natural resources) run by idiots.
 
Panthera Tigris said:
https://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/australian-economy/coalition-under-fire-as-australias-onshore-fuel-stockpiles-reach-worrying-lows/news-story/5a3c92c103a50d903f00a72ff1314d5c

In a nation that has close to the highest reserves of energy per head of population, Gia, you will disagree with me, but I still maintain that this is unforgivable.

Australia certainly is a lucky country (in terms of being kissed on the *smile* by a fairy for natural resources) run by idiots.
The government has no place determining what fuel stockpiles need to be kept. They can determine what the military might need but it is up to private business' to determine what stockpiles they deem appropriate to meet demand and the risk they are willing to take on.
 
Old Billiard Ball getting sharper than ever. Let's make the states publish a sex offenders register. Even if it doesn't get up it will take my citizenship stuff-up for that bloody Arab in Turkey off the front pages.
 
Giardiasis said:
The government has no place determining what fuel stockpiles need to be kept. They can determine what the military might need but it is up to private business' to determine what stockpiles they deem appropriate to meet demand and the risk they are willing to take on.

Why wouldn’t It be appropriate for a government to do a rational risk assessment of what could happen and put in place appropriate mitigations and take a wholistic approach vs expecting thousands of businesses and millions of individuals to coordinate to do the same vs all their other competing priorities? Pragmatically speaking it just won’t happen any other way. I’d imagine the logic the other way is that if the risk was that large then private organisations would already do this so it’s a poor use of public funds. I more see it as because it’s never happened people won’t have made the appropriate risk determination and just assume it will be there like it always has been. (Although I remember license plate number based petrol rationing when I was a kid)

If the government tries to shove the cost onto private businesses then I’m not aligned with that approach as this would be akin to insurance for the nation. With that said it will be horrifically expensive - we use approximately 900 thousand barrels of oil a day. so the case for action would have to be very large. Say a million barrels a day time 70 days time fifty dollar a barrel is 3.5 billion $US in fuel and then you need the infrastructure to store it.
 
A pity Mutton didn't fast track the Saudi girl's visa - poor SloMo ends up being outbid by Trudeau.

Maybe if she had been a blonde au pair things might have gone a bit faster
 
antman said:
A pity Mutton didn't fast track the Saudi girl's visa - poor SloMo ends up being outbid by Trudeau.

Maybe if she had been a blonde au pair things might have gone a bit faster
Don't think Potato Head does this stuff anymore, got his wings clipped when he tried to become PM. Immigration Minister is Coleman
 
yes.
YinnarTiger said:
Old Billiard Ball getting sharper than ever. Let's make the states publish a sex offenders register. Even if it doesn't get up it will take my citizenship stuff-up for that bloody Arab in Turkey off the front pages.
 
Meanwhile the gross mismanagement and rorting of the water systems in NSW has led to you know what. So what does our fearless leader do? "We need to have a discussion about Australian values".

Just *smile* off SloMo. No-one cares about your right wing virtue signalling any more. Election now.
 
antman said:
Meanwhile the gross mismanagement and rorting of the water systems in NSW has led to you know what. So what does our fearless leader do? "We need to have a discussion about Australian values".

Just *smile* off SloMo. No-one cares about your right wing virtue signalling any more. Election now.

some interesting links have been made between funding for Barnaby 'the philanderer' Joyce's election campaigns and choices he has made as water minister and nats leader.
 
antman said:
Meanwhile the gross mismanagement and rorting of the water systems in NSW has led to you know what. So what does our fearless leader do? "We need to have a discussion about Australian values".

Just *smile* off SloMo. No-one cares about your right wing virtue signalling any more. Election now.

classic deflection tactics.
 
Brodders17 said:
some interesting links have been made between funding for Barnaby 'the philanderer' Joyce's election campaigns and choices he has made as water minister and nats leader.

Interesting? It would be more of a surprise if there were no links.
 
jb03 said:
Interesting? It would be more of a surprise if there were no links.

So would I. Full investigation needed.

Also a full investigation needed on Bill Shorten and industry super funds before an election.

If only we had policyholders that served the people without conflict of interest.
 
antman said:
Meanwhile the gross mismanagement and rorting of the water systems in NSW has led to you know what. So what does our fearless leader do? "We need to have a discussion about Australian values".

Just *smile* off SloMo. No-one cares about your right wing virtue signalling any more. Election now.

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RoarEmotion said:
Why wouldn’t It be appropriate for a government to do a rational risk assessment of what could happen and put in place appropriate mitigations and take a wholistic approach vs expecting thousands of businesses and millions of individuals to coordinate to do the same vs all their other competing priorities? Pragmatically speaking it just won’t happen any other way. I’d imagine the logic the other way is that if the risk was that large then private organisations would already do this so it’s a poor use of public funds. I more see it as because it’s never happened people won’t have made the appropriate risk determination and just assume it will be there like it always has been. (Although I remember license plate number based petrol rationing when I was a kid)

If the government tries to shove the cost onto private businesses then I’m not aligned with that approach as this would be akin to insurance for the nation. With that said it will be horrifically expensive - we use approximately 900 thousand barrels of oil a day. so the case for action would have to be very large. Say a million barrels a day time 70 days time fifty dollar a barrel is 3.5 billion $US in fuel and then you need the infrastructure to store it.
It's not appropriate because the government has no way of knowing what the stockpile should be. They can't perform a rational risk assessment as they don't have the knowledge that is dispersed among the thousands of people that buy and sell fuel, and they aren't the one's taking the risk. It is also not appropriate, because their method of changing the stockpile is to compel fuel companies and/or tax payers to hold a minimum stock level at the point of a gun.

"Why wouldn’t It be appropriate for a government to do a rational risk assessment of what could happen and put in place appropriate mitigations and take a wholistic approach vs expecting thousands of businesses and millions of individuals to coordinate to do the same vs all their other competing priorities? "

This argument can be applied throughout the whole economy. Who decides what should be produced/stored/developed? A planning board or a market. The moral answer and the one that leads to the greatest prosperity for all is the market.