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That was a bit of an own goal by the Murdoch Coalition Party to give Shorten a great platform to win over the female vote on both sides so close to Mother's Day.

It's also dead amusing that ScoMo has locked Abbott up in a room during the campaign trail.
 
Baloo said:
That was a bit of an own goal by the Murdoch Coalition Party to give Shorten a great platform to win over the female vote on both sides so close to Mother's Day.

It's also dead amusing that ScoMo has locked Abbott up in a room during the campaign trail.

A bit of an own goal? Reckon that's an understatement.
 
HR said:
Hey Ian have you been reading this thread? Probably only 2 out of three posts if your reply is anything to go by. Maybe the deaths cuts close to the bone tiger, but they were definately policy driven deaths and no amount of climate change blaming is going to change this history.

And now doubling down on it.
 
HR said:
Penny Wong is a good sport isn't she! What a great example of how to be an adult and act maturely.
Wonder what she will be like when China doesn't give her what she wants, dummy spit.

Very unimpressive this behaviour. Shorten needs to look at this when he gets in power as we need a measured performance in this key portfolio.
 
tigerman said:
Agree.

I remember reading once about a river in the Kimberleys, i forget it's name, that when in flood would fill the Sydney Harbour in 3 hours. That's a hell of a lot of water, it just pours out into the ocean.

Governments continue to say that the costs are too prohibitive to build and pipe the water. Sceptics have said that a pipe line wouldn't go through enough electorates to be a vote winner.

I think that the mood and sentiment of Australians would approve of a pipe line and that it would be an election winner.

Scientists and engineers are the ones who say it is not feasible. the cost of building and powering the water south is prohibitive.
 
HR said:
Hey Ian have you been reading this thread? Probably only 2 out of three posts if your reply is anything to go by. Maybe the deaths cuts close to the bone tiger, but they were definately policy driven deaths and no amount of climate change blaming is going to change this history.

The old "the only reason I don't want refugees is because they could drown on the trip trick" . thats the third time I've fallen for that this month.
 
Brodders17 said:
Scientists and engineers are the ones who say it is not feasible. the cost of building and powering the water south is prohibitive.

Ok, i stand corrected on who says it's not feasible.

I wonder when it was last costed, or if it has ever been properly costed. You'd think that with solar panels and battery storage getting cheaper that the cost, for that part of the build, would be cheaper than it would have been a decade ago.

I read a couple of days ago that Twiggy Forrest donated $655 million to his Minderoo Foundation which makes it $1.5 billion that has tipped into it.

It would be great if some of our billionaires could get together and help fund this desperately needed pipeline.
 
HR said:
Great call on the greens although I would have liked a left anger title for them from the original poster but obviously they support the greens blindly.
Obviously. Despite saying who I voted for. Which wasn't the Greens. Anyway, if you think they are remotely comparable to the disgusting pigs I did give titles to, you are dangerously ignorant or upset racism isn't cool anymore.

Bitter sniping, is that your usual posting style?
 
23.21.159 said:
Following on from my recent comments about Denmark. Election just announced for June 5. There are 13 parties on the ballot.
Three of them are far right including this idiot who would probably have me deported despite being married to a Danish citizen, father of two others, and 28 years of full time work and tax paying at rates well over 50%:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_Line_(political_party)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_Denmark
https://www.ozy.com/acumen/amid-rising-skepticism-why-swiss-trust-their-government-more-than-ever/91767?fbclid=IwAR1cXOzxrAhy9fnGXi3Y1fOKrgCOc78bLsep3rmRR_1-IFMYXtKaG1otMKY

Here's a bit about the Swiss system I mentioned earlier. Similar to Denmark, they seem to have a much better range of parties getting to put their perspective forward. I really like the system of government there. Much more direct involvement from the electorate. And like Australia, they are a Federation of States (or as they call them, Cantons).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Switzerland
 
spook said:
Obviously. Despite saying who I voted for. Which wasn't the Greens. Anyway, if you think they are remotely comparable to the disgusting pigs I did give titles to, you are dangerously ignorant or upset racism isn't cool anymore.

Bitter sniping, is that your usual posting style?
The reason I mentioned that the Green and left faction ALP candidates will be put down with the Right wing hicks on my Senate paper, is that I find them equally divisive. Dig just below the surface and they are full of just as much prejudice and preconceived judgements on people, as those nasty little hatemongers of the right wing parties. Left-wing identity politics is all about judging people on their race, ethnic, religious, gender, sexuality attributes in order to determine what virtue that person holds. The concept of the individual is lost in such politics. Ironically similar to those they detest on the other end of the spectrum. Just that they hold a different set of prejudices.

So from my perspective, quite the opposite to lamenting that racism "isn't cool anymore".
 
spook said:
Obviously. Despite saying who I voted for. Which wasn't the Greens. Anyway, if you think they are remotely comparable to the disgusting pigs I did give titles to, you are dangerously ignorant or upset racism isn't cool anymore.

Bitter sniping, is that your usual posting style?
Dangerously ignorant. What are you on about? Dangerously ignorant. Wow. What the hell does that mean?
Sorry about not accepting your opinion as truth as you expect of many cronies here. It's not personal its different.
Most of the comment is filled with just blame and hatred. All of the hatred is childish some of the blame is correct but certainly not all.
You Spook, comment with aggression and hatred which is also personified by supporters of the left. It ain't cool either in any manner.
Don't go the racism card dude, you don't know what you are talking about.
 
tigersnake said:
The old "the only reason I don't want refugees is because they could drown on the trip trick" . thats the third time I've fallen for that this month.
Hello Snake, your words not mine, just for the record.
 
HR said:
You support people dying at sea? Times 2. You won't change the truth Ian by being more wrong.

So Australia invades Iraq and Afghanistan making it dangerous for innocent people who fear for their life. How dare they think that Australia would provide safe haven for them.
 
Panthera Tigris said:
The reason I mentioned that the Green and left faction ALP candidates will be put down with the Right wing hicks on my Senate paper, is that I find them equally divisive. Dig just below the surface and they are full of just as much prejudice and preconceived judgements on people, as those nasty little hatemongers of the right wing parties. Left-wing identity politics is all about judging people on their race, ethnic, religious, gender, sexuality attributes in order to determine what virtue that person holds. The concept of the individual is lost in such politics. Ironically similar to those they detest on the other end of the spectrum. Just that they hold a different set of prejudices.

So from my perspective, quite the opposite to lamenting that racism "isn't cool anymore".
I wasn't referring to you, PT. Elsewhere I have posted of my dislike for the Greens, calling them hypocrites. I was referring to this nasty, bitter, ugly little person:


HR said:
Dangerously ignorant. What are you on about? Dangerously ignorant. Wow. What the hell does that mean?
Sorry about not accepting your opinion as truth as you expect of many cronies here. It's not personal its different.
Most of the comment is filled with just blame and hatred. All of the hatred is childish some of the blame is correct but certainly not all.
You Spook, comment with aggression and hatred which is also personified by supporters of the left. It ain't cool either in any manner.
Don't go the racism card dude, you don't know what you are talking about.
Absolute rot. As usual.
 
tigerman said:
So Australia invades Iraq and Afghanistan making it dangerous for innocent people who fear for their life. How dare they think that Australia would provide safe haven for them.
I certainly have sympathies for that view. And Malcolm Fraser certainly took it upon himself to accept refugees from Vietnam in the aftermath of the Vietnam war, wearing the responsibility for Australia's involvement there. I suppose there was the extra element too, that most of the refugees from Vietnam had been associated with the South Vietnamese regime, so were allied to us and were facing persecution and/or being marched off to reeducation labour camps by the incoming Communist regime as a result.

Ironically though, it was Whitlam - the demigod of the compassionate left in Australia - who was furious that Australia would take these boat people. Afterall, they were anti-communist South Vietnamese and wouldn't vote for him. While some may point out that the reverse is also true - it suited M.Fraser to take anti-communist refugees - I give him the benefit of the doubt, that he did it because he thought it the right thing to do. That said, in the hypothetical scenario that the Southern regime had prevailed and people associated with the Communists were fleeing persecution, would Fraser have been so keen to take them? That would have been the test.

Anyway, just goes to show the cynical politicking over this issue is sadly, something that has gone on for many years.
 
spook said:
I wasn't referring to you, PT. Elsewhere I have posted of my dislike for the Greens, calling them hypocrites. I was referring to this nasty, bitter, ugly little person:
No worries Spook. Like I say, I'm moderately conservative socially (while centre left on economics and environment). So I can see pulls from both sides of the spectrum that are working in unison to tear at the fabric of our civil society. Hence why I'm struggling to place my house of reps vote. I line up with no party. And I will vote for micro-parties and independents in the Senate, while spreading my vote all over the place after that, based on the particular candidate, rather than on party lines.
 
Panthera Tigris said:
I certainly have sympathies for that view. And Malcolm Fraser certainly took it upon himself to accept refugees from Vietnam in the aftermath of the Vietnam war, wearing the responsibility for Australia's involvement there. I suppose there was the extra element too, that most of the refugees from Vietnam had been associated with the South Vietnamese regime, so were allied to us and were facing persecution and/or being marched off to reeducation labour camps by the incoming Communist regime as a result.

Ironically though, it was Whitlam - the demigod of the compassionate left in Australia - who was furious that Australia would take these boat people. Afterall, they were anti-communist South Vietnamese and wouldn't vote for him. While some may point out that the reverse is also true - it suited M.Fraser to take anti-communist refugees - I give him the benefit of the doubt, that he did it because he thought it the right thing to do. That said, in the hypothetical scenario that the Southern regime had prevailed and people associated with the Communists were fleeing persecution, would Fraser have been so keen to take them? That would have been the test.

Anyway, just goes to show the cynical politicking over this issue is sadly, something that has gone on for many years.

Yes, not much has changed.

Fraser was probably prepared to take them, because it was the Libs that had sent the troops over there.
 
Assuming Labor wins (as being touted) will there be a change of policy re Dusty's Dad?

Do we know what Labour's stance on this is?

Would help Dusty's footy IMHO if Mr Martin was allowed back in.

(apologies if this has already been discussed here previously).