Talking Politics

[spook]

Pretty dark day for australia culturally.

We put franking credits and $5 a week tax break ahead of

Health, education, our environment and reconciliation with black australia.

Scomo sipped a schooner significantly less awkwardly than shorten jogged.

What happens now?

Well we are *smile*ed. The nationals killed the murray river, and won more seats. The Indian bloke the queenslanders want WILL kill the reef. But whats a river and a reef?

Black fellas are just as dumb as the rest of us. They swung 7% to liberal in Lignari, despite labour laying on the table to legislate for black policy power.

What have labour got? Their best talent are gay and girls. Kristina keneally has the mettle, even the looks to slip murdochs muck. But shes a senator.

It'll be Elbows, whose more scomo than scomo.

We'll all just get sh!tter and crapper and hate each other more.

But our franking credits should be right.

That about sums it up, I'm afraid.

 

[KnightersRevenge]

Going by this post and your other calling for Wong to be deported, it's a good thing for both you and Australia that you haven't lived there for 25years. Not so good for the perception of Australians around where you live though.

:clap :clap :clap

 

[KnightersRevenge]

Pretty dark day for australia culturally.

We put franking credits and $5 a week tax break ahead of

Health, education, our environment and reconciliation with black australia.

Scomo sipped a schooner significantly less awkwardly than shorten jogged.

What happens now?

Well we are *smile*ed. The nationals killed the murray river, and won more seats. The Indian bloke the queenslanders want WILL kill the reef. But whats a river and a reef?

Black fellas are just as dumb as the rest of us. They swung 7% to liberal in Lignari, despite labour laying on the table to legislate for black policy power.

What have labour got? Their best talent are gay and girls. Kristina keneally has the mettle, even the looks to slip murdochs muck. But shes a senator.

It'll be Elbows, whose more scomo than scomo.

We'll all just get sh!tter and crapper and hate each other more.

But our franking credits should be right.

That's about the size of it, mate.

 

[KnightersRevenge]

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[tigersnake]

One in particular is Peter Dutton, a man who has served his community for most of his adult life and made decisions to save lives and stood fast against the far left minority opinion, holds his head high this morning. The comment from the left is obviously not mainstream Australia.

'Far left minority'. Misrepresentation. The country is split down the middle. 1% decides the election. There are 21.8 million people who hate Dutton and his ilk, and 22.2 million who don't. Minority sure, but really is it? Do you honestly believe that the former are not mainstream Australia and the latter is? Whatever makes you feel good.

 

[scottyturnerscurse]

Going by this post and your other calling for Wong to be deported, it's a good thing for both you and Australia that you haven't lived there for 25years. Not so good for the perception of Australians around where you live though.

:clap

 

[tigersnake]

The CLP had a good candidate in Jacinta Price. ALP had Warren Snowden who has been there for bloody ever and done nothing. Shame they didn’t follow the mood of the rest of the country and toss him out on his ear and elect one of their own! Maybe next time.

Jacinta Price was elected as an Alice Springs councillor, in 2017. She said she would serve the full 4 year term, she lasted 18 months. She has the worst meeting attendance record of any councillor of the last 20 years.

Good candidate? Dilligent? Committed? Whatever. I suppose it is the LNP way to promote underperforming seconds players, or thirds players in Price's case, it worked for Campbell Newman, for a while anyway.

http://www.alicespringsnews.com.au/2019/04/22/jacinta-price-4-year-commitment-lasted-just-a-year/

 

[Panthera Tigris]

The One Nation vote in Queensland and parts of NSW is an indictment on our country.

That it came almost exclusively from the ALP is both staggering and disturbing.

And that Christensen and Dutton were re-elected, probably on larger margins, is so shameful.

I agree that One Nation are a rabble and to think that they gained voters after making absolute fools of themselves is disturbing. But at the same time, I don't find it surprising at all.

There is this false perception that only the Nationals (& Libs) are leaking votes to One Nation. In One Nation's early years i think that was definitely the case. But as the ALP have embraced Green style identity politics, it's pushed some of the ALP blue collar working class to One Nation.

Think of it this way. This demographic i refer is a group of people who are centre left, to left economically, but centre right, to right socially and on matters of national security, migration etc.

The silver spoon Libs look down their nose at them and denegrate them as a bunch of poor, white trailer trash, bludging welfare cheats. While the inner city left of the ALP and Greens sneer at them as a bunch of bigoted *insert*phobic, redneck bogans.

It's a group of people who feel disdained by the entire established political order.

Not only One Nation, but Jaquie Lambie looks to have gained a Senate seat in Tasmania largely on the back of this same demographic.

 

[MB78]

I don't find it surprising at all. There is this false perception that only the Nationals (& Libs) are leaking votes to One Nation. In One Nation's early years i think that was definitely the case. But as the ALP have embraced Green style identity politics, it's pushed some of the ALP blue collar working class to One Nation.

Think of it this way. This demographic i refer is a group of people who are centre left, to left economically, but centre right, to right socially and on matters of national security, migration etc.

The silver spoon Libs look down their nose at them and denegrate them as a bunch of poor, white trailer trash, bludging welfare cheats. While the inner city left of the ALP and Greens sneer at them as a bunch of bigoted *insert*phobic, redneck bogans.

It's a group of people who feel disdained by the entire established political order.

Not only One Nation, but Jaquie Lambie looks to have gained a Senate seat in Tasmania largely on the back of this same demographic.

Yep totally agree.

ALP need to distance themselves from the Greens.

 

[MB78]

This perked me up a bit.

:hihi

 

[Djevv]

Jacinta Price was elected as an Alice Springs councillor, in 2017. She said she would serve the full 4 year term, she lasted 18 months. She has the worst meeting attendance record of any councillor of the last 20 years.

Good candidate? Dilligent? Committed? Whatever. I suppose it is the LNP way to promote underperforming seconds players, or thirds players in Price's case, it worked for Campbell Newman, for a while anyway.

http://www.alicespringsnews.com.au/2019/04/22/jacinta-price-4-year-commitment-lasted-just-a-year/

Yeah it was a bit of a hatchet job that article. She responded to it in kind. Still can’t help think she would have been better than Snowden. He is the very model of a time serving thirds player.

 

[IanG]

Yep totally agree.

ALP need to distance themselves from the Greens.

They have this campaign and I don't think they've played identity politics nearly as much as some believe..

 

[tigersnake]

They have this campaign and I don't think they've played identity politics nearly as much as some believe..

yeah mostly jumping at shadows. But it works.

 

[HR]

'Far left minority'. Misrepresentation. The country is split down the middle. 1% decides the election. There are 21.8 million people who hate Dutton and his ilk, and 22.2 million who don't. Minority sure, but really is it? Do you honestly believe that the former are not mainstream Australia and the latter is? Whatever makes you feel good.

You know what makes me feel good is writing far left for every time I read that Abbott is far right. He is not and neither is Dutton.

 

[tigersnake]

You know what makes me feel good is writing far left for every time I read that Abbott is far right. He is not and neither is Dutton.

? no idea what you base that on. You'd be feeling very good I'd imagine. Those smart arse science poindexters have been sidelined, tax cuts and handouts for the rich guaranteed and maintained. Causes worth fighting for.

 

[22nd Man]

I've been surprised all along that no-one moved against Shorten. Has never even been close in the preferred PM discussions, always been a distant loser. Were labor too arrogant to think it wouldn't matter or was the party too weak to make the right move for their party. Either way, it looks really poor for their party, either weak or arrogant.

Kevin's Rudd last act of sabotage was to push that rule through about future leader changes. Basically handcuffed Shorten in the leadership unless he walked. 07 will be weariNg his *smile* eating grin around NYC or Beijing all week.

 

[HR]

? no idea what you base that on. You'd be feeling very good I'd imagine. Those smart arse science poindexters have been sidelined, tax cuts and handouts for the rich guaranteed and maintained. Causes worth fighting for.

Not as happy as you are angry.
The anger that the left supporters incessantly demonstrated in the lead up to the election and now display ad nauseum is somewhat offputting for gaining support for the cause.
Tax cuts and handouts for the rich, not quite the truth in the result though is it. Have you seen the figures regarding who pays the welfare taxes in this country Tigersnake? Not the 50+% of voters who didn't vote for Labour. Maybe something closer to 20% of the total of the wage earners with the top 2% of earners paying the bulk of that.
Don't cut off your nose to spite your face in regards to climate change. We don't buy it.
Australia got it right in 2019. Let's see if the supporters and the opposition get it right next time. Got three years to figure it out.

 

[22nd Man]

Some of their policies were populist but they alienated a lot of swing voters IMO with some of their other policies, especially around the way they attacked negative gearing (they went down the wrong track with this). Might have been good policies for hardline labor voters, but not for swing voters.

Don't forget the franking credits,,,, impacts huge number of people now and many more in the not too distant future.people 60 and over vote and care about their vote.

 

[22nd Man]

Yep, looking bad for the ALP. QLD has swung heavily to the Libs and the swing in Victoria not looking strong enough. Although I hate the way Morrison has campaigned on a small target, looks like it has paid off.

Actually Morrison put himself in the crosshairs and backed himself as the face of the Liberals.

 

[22nd Man]

Yeah I don’t think the voters in North Queensland give a sh!t about what hipsters in Fitzroy think about Adani.

And this is where the collective think tank of labour is based these days....inner city elites, forgotten where they came from, highly educated, in political or government subsidised jobs..... a very narrow window onto the world.