• If you are having trouble logging in to the forum please contact admin@puntroadend.com // When reseting your password or awaiting confirmation please check your junk/spam emails.

Talking Politics

SpaceAce

Tiger Superstar
Aug 19, 2007
1,498
266
Bringing down the airliner was terrible, what a mess, surely they could have communicated the flight times and details of the civilian flights to their military no matter how nervous they were. Negligence in the extreme, no excuse.

I do wonder a bit in relation to Iran. While ISIS was running around were Iran (Shi-ite and therefore not supportive of a caliphate) given a bit more leeway as I'm sure Iran would not have been happy having ISIS in control of various parts of the region.

Trump has no clue, but then again neither did Bush Jr. If you want to start messing around with regimes in other countries FFS have some sort of plan for winning the peace or some sort of strategy and end goal in mind. No idea what they thought they would achieve by killing the General.

DS
America's preoccupation with Iran is nothing new, in fact US administrations since Reagan in 1980 have been talking about regime change in Iran.
The neoconservative factions in Washington have been itching to get at Iran for a long time.
This assassination of the general was not some haphazard ill conceived action. Trump knows exactly what he is doing and I believe he has a plan to bring the Iranian regime to its knees, after which it is expected that the Iranian people will rise up with a viable opposition and overthrow this fascist theocracy.
All things considered, Soleimani was a murderous C##T and Im glad he has gone to meet his maker!!
 

DavidSSS

Tiger Superstar
Dec 11, 2017
1,536
944
Melbourne
America's preoccupation with Iran is nothing new, in fact US administrations since Reagan in 1980 have been talking about regime change in Iran.
The neoconservative factions in Washington have been itching to get at Iran for a long time.
This assassination of the general was not some haphazard ill conceived action. Trump knows exactly what he is doing and I believe he has a plan to bring the Iranian regime to its knees, after which it is expected that the Iranian people will rise up with a viable opposition and overthrow this fascist theocracy.
All things considered, Soleimani was a murderous C##T and Im glad he has gone to meet his maker!!
Yeah, I'm not convinced they have as much strategy as you think. Also, I remember talking to some Iranians back in my previous job and a few of them talked about how their parents were involved in the 1979 revolution to overthrow the Shah - they were rapt to get rid of the Shah (murderous thug that he was) but the replacement theocratic regime was really not what they were fighting for.

Very difficult to win the peace.

DS
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 user

tigerman

Nank should grow a mullet.
Mar 17, 2003
9,726
1,172
The USA have been allies of Saudi Arabia for decades, the yanks make Billions and Billions of Dollars selling arms to Saudi Arabia who are predominantly Sunni Muslims, Iran are predominantly Shia Muslims. It goes without saying that the Sunnis and Shia don't like each other.
 

DavidSSS

Tiger Superstar
Dec 11, 2017
1,536
944
Melbourne
The Saudis also make sure that trade in oil is done in $US, helps the US to keep the $US as the world currency.

DS
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 user

TigerMasochist

Walks softly carries a big stick.
Jul 13, 2003
19,010
1,430
The Bridget McKenzie scandal.

About 5 sentences on page 4 of the Murdocracy.
What, caught out for pork barreling? So when has that ever been news where politics is concerned? Been going on since I was filling my nappies n it'll never change
 

Sintiger

Tiger Legend
Aug 11, 2010
11,781
824
Camberwell
Wouldn't be a Victorian labor party left if this was the case, the amount of lying, cheating n stealing they've been doing in recent years.
I couldn’t care less who does it, left right Labor liberal , couldn’t give a stuff. Let’s all condemn it because it needs to stop. The reason it happens is because we say “ the other side does it too” or “ no rules were broken” . Let’s change the rules if that’s the case. We shrug our shoulders and let it continue.
I’m sick of the lot of them. Sen Mckenzie is a good one to start with to make a stand that we are sick of this political BS no matter what Party you are!
 
  • Like
Reactions: 3 users

TigerMasochist

Walks softly carries a big stick.
Jul 13, 2003
19,010
1,430
I couldn’t care less who does it, left right Labor liberal , couldn’t give a stuff. Let’s all condemn it because it needs to stop. The reason it happens is because we say “ the other side does it too” or “ no rules were broken” . Let’s change the rules if that’s the case. We shrug our shoulders and let it continue.
I’m sick of the lot of them. Sen Mckenzie is a good one to start with to make a stand that we are sick of this political BS no matter what Party you are!
They've tried to change the rules a few times. The most recent was just a few months back n done by an independent tribunal. As soon as the Pollies realised that they were gunna miss out on a few holiday perks they chucked a massive tanty n rescinded the tribunals ruling.

There's a simple reason why I stopped voting at any election a long time ago. They're all dodgy shonky pocket pissing scabs n I wouldn't befoul myself picking any of them.
 

KnightersRevenge

Baby Knighters is on board.
Aug 21, 2007
6,185
159
Ireland
They've tried to change the rules a few times. The most recent was just a few months back n done by an independent tribunal. As soon as the Pollies realised that they were gunna miss out on a few holiday perks they chucked a massive tanty n rescinded the tribunals ruling.

There's a simple reason why I stopped voting at any election a long time ago. They're all dodgy shonky pocket pissing scabs n I wouldn't befoul myself picking any of them.
You raise an interesting point TM. In a system with compulsory voting shouldn't there be a "Cheese Sandwich" option? I think there should be. A box you can check to say I am fulfilling my obligation but I don't think any of you deserve a vote.
 

Baloo

Delisted Free Agent
Nov 8, 2005
35,533
2,436
You raise an interesting point TM. In a system with compulsory voting shouldn't there be a "Cheese Sandwich" option? I think there should be. A box you can check to say I am fulfilling my obligation but I don't think any of you deserve a vote.
Great idea, so great that please refer to it as the "Cheese Sandwich©" option
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 user

Sintiger

Tiger Legend
Aug 11, 2010
11,781
824
Camberwell
You raise an interesting point TM. In a system with compulsory voting shouldn't there be a "Cheese Sandwich" option? I think there should be. A box you can check to say I am fulfilling my obligation but I don't think any of you deserve a vote.
They've tried to change the rules a few times. The most recent was just a few months back n done by an independent tribunal. As soon as the Pollies realised that they were gunna miss out on a few holiday perks they chucked a massive tanty n rescinded the tribunals ruling.

There's a simple reason why I stopped voting at any election a long time ago. They're all dodgy shonky pocket pissing scabs n I wouldn't befoul myself picking any of them.
Fair rant
 

DavidSSS

Tiger Superstar
Dec 11, 2017
1,536
944
Melbourne
You raise an interesting point TM. In a system with compulsory voting shouldn't there be a "Cheese Sandwich" option? I think there should be. A box you can check to say I am fulfilling my obligation but I don't think any of you deserve a vote.
No such thing as compulsory voting with a secret ballot.

What we have is compulsory attendance at the polling booth, you are expected to turn up and get your name ticked off.

No compulsion to actually complete the ballot paper. Effectively you have the cheese sandwich option, just leave it blank, oh and a pithy comment always makes counting more entertaining for those working at the booth, and the scrutineers.

Unfortunately it is now illegal to advertise the fact that you are under no compulsion to fill out the ballot paper. Sometimes I wonder why I bother, safe seat and all, both federally and in the Victorian state elections.

Just one thing though: make sure you return the ballot to the proper box, nothing makes the day longer for poll clerks than missing ballots (always a few, but the less the better). Why make their lives hard? Yes, I used to do this when younger, great student job, a bit of extra cash every election.

DS
 

KnightersRevenge

Baby Knighters is on board.
Aug 21, 2007
6,185
159
Ireland
No such thing as compulsory voting with a secret ballot.

What we have is compulsory attendance at the polling booth, you are expected to turn up and get your name ticked off.

No compulsion to actually complete the ballot paper. Effectively you have the cheese sandwich option, just leave it blank, oh and a pithy comment always makes counting more entertaining for those working at the booth, and the scrutineers.

Unfortunately it is now illegal to advertise the fact that you are under no compulsion to fill out the ballot paper. Sometimes I wonder why I bother, safe seat and all, both federally and in the Victorian state elections.

Just one thing though: make sure you return the ballot to the proper box, nothing makes the day longer for poll clerks than missing ballots (always a few, but the less the better). Why make their lives hard? Yes, I used to do this when younger, great student job, a bit of extra cash every election.

DS
I know you are only trying to help but I still like the "Cheese Sandwich©" option. I think it would be interesting to see what politicians would make of having to look at the number of people who would literally rather have no-one than any of them. I know I have voted in elections where that would be my choice.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 user

Giardiasis

Tiger Legend
Apr 20, 2009
5,564
132
Brisbane
I know you are only trying to help but I still like the "Cheese Sandwich©" option. I think it would be interesting to see what politicians would make of having to look at the number of people who would literally rather have no-one than any of them. I know I have voted in elections where that would be my choice.
This would actually achieve something, hence why it won’t be allowed.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 users

tigerman

Nank should grow a mullet.
Mar 17, 2003
9,726
1,172
With the lack of respect the hypocrites from all parties have brought on themselves, the "Cheese Sandwich" would win the next election.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 users