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IanG

Tiger Legend
Sep 27, 2004
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Does anyone really believe Gladys? You lie down with dogs, you get fleas. Up to her eyeballs in it.

She clearly knew he was not on the up and up and she was caught out in a lie to ICAC, dunno if that actually constitutes perjury but in terms of her political career it doesn't really matter.
 

K3

Tiger Champion
Oct 9, 2006
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We need their funding tripled. And we need to start with who owns or controls water rights, as that will weed out the worst of them.

Have you seen how many on the NSW LNP polies have voted against it?

Criminal stuff!
 

eZyT

Tiger Legend
Jun 28, 2019
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Gladys cannot survive. The standards we walk past are the standards we accept. She cannot possibly remain as Premier.

nope. G O N E

she actually seems a capable and borderline honest politician, driven partially by a sense of civic duty, as well as the usual ego

But she's surrounded by the usual collection of the crooked, incompetent and narcissistic.

and you really need to keep your pants on when leading that kind of mob, unfortunately.

NSW is the new Qld in terms of corruption, on both sides. Has been since the 90's.
 
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MD Jazz

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Feb 3, 2017
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Gladys cannot survive. The standards we walk past are the standards we accept. She cannot possibly remain as Premier.
That's nothing that isn't already assumed? If he is asked a question about her and it is revealed she was aware of his activities or contributed towards them she would be turfed out. Surely if he had something on her or she thought he would reveal she had knowledge she would have quit already?

Would be disappointing to lose one of the few liberal politicians with some smarts.
 
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eZyT

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Jun 28, 2019
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Disagree. LNP pollies are in it for themselves, Labor pollies are in it for the greater good. And Greens are in it for the trees.

I reckon the Politician who is there selflessly to make the world a better place is a bit of a thing of the past. Theres no question theres more self serving *smile* on the conservative side; anyone who disputes this is outing themselves as a fool for the very ideology makes it so;

But there are unquestionably, complete *smile* of every political persuasion.

There are far fewer *smile* amongst the greens, but the bozo index would possibly only be surpassed by one nation and clive palmer and shooters and fishers.

But, yes, Liberals beleive to their bootstraps, that its every man (sic) for himself
 

spook

Tiger Legend
Jun 18, 2007
12,813
4,735
Melbourne
Gladys is the #KoalaKiller

On her watch, our cuddly talisman is on the verge of functional extinction in her state.

As for Barilaro, the bloke's a crook. Love Friendly Jordies ripping both of them to shreds.
 
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craig

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Aug 19, 2004
30,646
7,462
Melbourne
Most politicians are lying self serving miscreants.

Rules for thee but not for me.

Most of em on all sides and parties are bought owned and paid for by someone somewhere or are nothing more than agenda pushers owned or working for organisations not be operating in the best interests of the people.

Somewhere along the line in this world people have forgotten that these bastards "Work For Us"!!

We do not work for them!!!
 
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Sintiger

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Aug 11, 2010
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Camberwell
I present you Tim Smith..what an idiot.
This guy should spare us the crocodile tears and faux concerns for other people. Tim Smith is a moron of the highest level, a wannabe Trump copier who adds no value to anything that happens in this state.
The best thing the LNP could do is get him out
 
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K3

Tiger Champion
Oct 9, 2006
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nope. G O N E

she actually seems a capable and borderline honest politician, driven partially by a sense of civic duty, as well as the usual ego

But she's surrounded by the usual collection of the crooked, incompetent and narcissistic.

and you really need to keep your pants on when leading that kind of mob, unfortunately.

NSW is the new Qld in terms of corruption, on both sides. Has been since the 90's.

Ummmm nope. Knew about many things. Appears to have taken cash, or let Maguire take cash, to give an audience to any number of Chinese business ppl. Got emails deleted before ICAC could get them etc etc etc.

Nothing honest.
 
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DavidSSS

Tiger Champion
Dec 11, 2017
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Too many career politicians.

Whatever happened to a Labor politician coming from a union where they worked in the industry, got elected as a delegate, worked their way into the leadership and then went into politics? Nowadays they come out of uni to some job in a union and then into parliament.

I couldn't care less about the union influence on the ALP (which is microscopic apart from the fact that ALP apparatchiks play their internal ALP games within unions) but I do care about how the internal politics of the ALP invade unions. Time to chuck the ALP out of unions.

DS
 
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Sintiger

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Aug 11, 2010
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Too many career politicians.

Whatever happened to a Labor politician coming from a union where they worked in the industry, got elected as a delegate, worked their way into the leadership and then went into politics? Nowadays they come out of uni to some job in a union and then into parliament.

I couldn't care less about the union influence on the ALP (which is microscopic apart from the fact that ALP apparatchiks play their internal ALP games within unions) but I do care about how the internal politics of the ALP invade unions. Time to chuck the ALP out of unions.

DS
Union influence on the ALP is not microscopic and that's because of money. The ALP relies enormously on donations from the Union movement.

The influence they have on the ALP is also disproportionate to the people they represent. Less than 15% of all workers in Australia are Trade union members.
 

Ian4

BIN MAN!
May 6, 2004
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Union influence on the ALP is not microscopic and that's because of money. The ALP relies enormously on donations from the Union movement.

The influence they have on the ALP is also disproportionate to the people they represent. Less than 15% of all workers in Australia are Trade union members.

Unions founded the Labor party. they should never separate. they are intertwined.

And it’s a travesty union membership has declined. This is due to the successful policies of the right. And just look at how the workforce has suffered as a result? About 50% is now casual or part time. And this policy has been exposed badly during COVID. I’ve been a union member all my working life, always will be.

I will also add that while 15% seems low, but its still more than enough to influence an election result.
 
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Sintiger

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Aug 11, 2010
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Unions founded the Labor party. they should never separate. they are intertwined.

And it’s a travesty union membership has declined. This is due to the successful policies of the right. And just look at how the workforce has suffered as a result? About 50% is now casual or part time. And this policy has been exposed badly during COVID. I’ve been a union member all my working life, always will be.

I will also add that while 15% seems low, but its still more than enough to influence an election result.
Ian I think the union movement has to ask why membership has declined so much in their own 4 walls because this a trend going back 50 years or more, it’s not just the policies of one section of our political spectrum although that is happening now. If the union movement thinks that is the only reason for their membership decline imo they will be missing the point which is that a large part of their potential membership base is moving away because they don't see value in membership.
I am a great believer in protection of workers and I totally agree that these rights have been eroded but the only way that will change is if there is meaningful dialogue with some understanding that workers need protection and companies need to make a profit. Great union figures like Bob Hawke recognised this with the pact between employers and unions in the 1980s.
Both sides of that discussion have to understand that this is about compromise. Businesses can't operate without workers and they need protection but equally businesses need to survive and make a profit or there won't be any employers!
 
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DavidSSS

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Dec 11, 2017
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Union influence on the ALP is not microscopic and that's because of money. The ALP relies enormously on donations from the Union movement.

The influence they have on the ALP is also disproportionate to the people they represent. Less than 15% of all workers in Australia are Trade union members.

I understand what you are saying but the union influence in the ALP is from union leaders who are more loyal to the ALP than to their union. Plus, they are even more loyal to their own position and their aspirations as politicians.

15% of the workforce makes unions pretty much the largest organisations in the country. More members than Churches etc. But what is even worse is look at the membership of political parties. Each major party would be lucky to have 10,000 members in each of NSW or Victoria yet they wield enormous influence.

DS