Tiger74 said:I'm actually an ALP voter
I know T74... you're new school... the new breed of ALP voter... slightly to the right on the economic spectrum. So I'm sure you won't be that upset should the incumbent be returned.
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I know T74... you're new school... the new breed of ALP voter... slightly to the right on the economic spectrum. So I'm sure you won't be that upset should the incumbent be returned.
One thing I thought the libs did brilliantly today was the allegation 13 ALP nominations may be invalid because they failed to quit their jobs with the Crown in the required timeframe before nominating.
Timing is great - just before election so its hard to disprove in time
Management was great - they DIDN'T say the guys were inelligable, just asked the question
Risk is high - I hope the ALP get this right because I don't want any Australian election for either party decided in court (lets leave that farce to the USA).
Timing is great - just before election so its hard to disprove in time
Management was great - they DIDN'T say the guys were inelligable, just asked the question
Risk is high - I hope the ALP get this right because I don't want any Australian election for either party decided in court (lets leave that farce to the USA).
Tiger74 said:
I don't see why anyone needs to be supported and I don't think it's a matter of "guts" as you and Livers claim. I find it easy to have a crack at Howard because he's had his chances and in the case of work choices and GST my family are worse off. His sudden bottomless cheque book annoys me when he's had all those years to do the things he's promising to buy votes, and thirdly I don't think honesty and integrity are Johnny's strong points. Promises are easy and we've seen them made at election time but never eventuate.
The others haven't had a chance to turn me against them yet because they haven't been in power. I honestly don't know who, if anyone, I'll vote for though I'm becoming more tempted to vote Labor for 2 reasons.
1-Livers has just about talked me into it. :hihi
2-To get rid of work choices and hopefully end up with a balance that suits both employer and employee.
P.S. The 13 invalid nominations claim smacked of desperation and dirty politics and I think a lot of people would see it that way too.
rosy23 said:
Reason I agree with Liv on this is some like to portray themselves (this is a generic statement, not restricted to this forum) as unbiased or without party preference, so their comment is supposed to be impartial, when the reality is they have a set agenda which is dictated by their bias.
rosy23 said:
An opinion poll is developed by determining a randomly generated representitive sample for the population you wish to assess. This generally means you have a set number (for an "Australian" sized population this can vary from 300 to 3000 respondants, the more though the more accurate) which is divided up between the general socio-economic indicators which make up your population (age, sex, marital status, income, location).
You them set out to collect interviews with this sample, the most common way being via phone these days. The questions are supposed to be asked in an unbiased way, so as to avoid "push polling" (where the questions in the poll are designed to guide you to a specific answer).
Polling is generally quite accurate, but you need to be aware of three things:
1) polls have an error factor of +/- 1-5% depending upon how the poll has been conducted.
2) an opinion poll checks for opinions, but this can differ from final intent. This is because while most make up their decision well before polling day, some will only make a final decision when they are in the booth.
3) for election polls, most due to cost are national, and don't focus on the marginal electorates. This is important, because even if there is a nationwide swing to Rudd of 10%, if it is in heavily Labour seats it will not give the ALP victory. This is because it is seats which return a Government, and its the movement in key marginal seats that will determine the winner in any election.
Rosy, I get polled regularly by Roy Morgan. They email me with a set of questions which i respond to. They also send short videos like party adverts and you use yr mouse like the worm and rate the material that way.
The results of all this come up on their website.
The results of all this come up on their website.
rosy23 said:
How so? If you do have an answer, its only to be a small part of a larger representitive sample. The poll is not just about who will win, its also about movements to and from minor parties, or the degree of support for a specific major party. The latter is relvant for the Senate, because while you may be in a safe electorate that doesn't support your preferred candidate, your vote may matter more for the Senate (which is state based of course).
Also answering "I don't know" is important feedback too. The number of undecideds is a key stat, as it gives the major parties an idea of how firm people are in their voting intent, and how open the electorate is to last minute campaigning.
Tiger74 said:
Tiger74,
That's has been exactly my argument the whole time....you're spot on!
If posters are impartial/undecided, then they should be posting articles/opinions about BOTH parties, not just claiming they are impartial and then adding skewed posts continually bagging one particular party.
That to me isn't impartial....but just someone who hasn't got the balls to admit who they are voting for, so they decide to sit on the fence, when in reality they are already leaning one way.
These people know who they are.