Talking Politics

[artball]

1: Porter and Morrison saying they hadn't read the alleged victims statements - surely in order to deny something you would have to read the details of what you are denying ...
remember Scomo is a micro-manager; it's why Reynolds hasn't lost her job because she knows Morrison knew about what went on in the Brittany Higgins case ..

2. Harry and Meghan - neither have royal blood so what's the big deal ?

 

[Baloo]

Fair call. Yet there remains very little criticism of the ALP’s support of the legislation; which would not have passed without said support.

I'd say that's mainly because the Libs are in Government, the ALP isn't. If the ALP was in power and pushing this through, I for one would be just as disgusted with the whole Murdoch shake down of new tech by using the Australian Government.

 

[Sintiger]

Interesting Four Corners last night. What I didn't realise was that they had the Christian Porter story when the original Canberra Bubble episode ran last year and couldn't run with it. I will wait and see whether there is any anti ABC backlash but to me it was a pretty balanced story. The Christian Porter press conference was shown extensively as was the view of a senior Law society figure explaining clearly why he believed that nothing further can be or should be done.

The alleged victim may well have made the statement and been alive today if it wasn't for COVID which seemed to push her over the edge, but we will never know. Porter is either telling the truth or he is a very convincing liar and we will never know that either

 

[scottyturnerscurse]

Well said. I've always had no interest whatsoever.
It did rankle though that one of the higher up Royals apparently said what they did about a baby's colour though.
Racism like that will always make me see red no matter who says it.
Now bring on that Republic.

Doubt there would be a family in the world that didn't have an elderly aunt, uncle or whoever who wouldn't have said something so daft in the same situation.

My money is on Princess Anne.

Anyway, I agree to bringing on the republic

 

[artball]

The alleged victim may well have made the statement and been alive today if it wasn't for COVID which seemed to push her over the edge, but we will never know. Porter is either telling the truth or he is a very convincing liar and we will never know that either

there was something in that 4 corners story last night that sparked my curiosity - one of the alleged victims friends said that on the night of the crime they were all out together and when it came to going home they separated. Porter offered to walk the alleged victim home and she accepted. They then left the rest of the group.
I'm not so convinced by Porters stance, why didn't he come out straight away and say I'm innocent and welcome any inquiry ?

 

[tigerman]

there was something in that 4 corners story last night that sparked my curiosity - one of the alleged victims friends said that on the night of the crime they were all out together and when it came to going home they separated. Porter offered to walk the alleged victim home and she accepted. They then left the rest of the group.
I'm not so convinced by Porters stance, why didn't he come out straight away and say I'm innocent and welcome any inquiry ?

In Porter's press conference when he said that he was the person accused of the alleged rape, he said that his last contact with the alleged victim was at the debating competition in 1988.
On the four corners show last night the alleged victim said in a statement to police that she had dinner with Porter in 1994. If that's true, surely Porter would remember that.
He now concedes that it's possible that he has had contact with her since 1988.

 

[IanG]

Porter seems to have a slippery idea of truth:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1368877582742036481

 

[Sintiger]

Porter seems to have a slippery idea of truth:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1368877582742036481

Turnbull's account may well be true however it is also true that he made Christian Porter AG 2 weeks after the meeting.

 

[Sintiger]

there was something in that 4 corners story last night that sparked my curiosity - one of the alleged victims friends said that on the night of the crime they were all out together and when it came to going home they separated. Porter offered to walk the alleged victim home and she accepted. They then left the rest of the group.
I'm not so convinced by Porters stance, why didn't he come out straight away and say I'm innocent and welcome any inquiry ?

To be clear I am not defending Porter.
He did address that in a way I didn't totally understand. He said that he had to wait until a time when his statements didn't prejudice the NSW police investigation and that as the Commonwealth's number 1 legal officer he had to do that.
I have no idea if that is true or not btw.

 

[Tigers of Old]

Why did Kate have dinner with Porter in 1994 according to her unsworn affidavit? It's a very pertinent question.
Why would anyone have dinner with someone they allege raped them anally just 6 years earlier?
Doesn't make sense. All the more reason for an independent inquiry.

 

[Sintiger]

Is it true that Scott Morrison made no reference to international women's day via his social media yesterday?

Jenny forgot to tell him to do it

 

[IanG]

Why did Kate have dinner with Porter in 1994 according to her unsworn affidavit? It's a very pertinent question.
Why would anyone have dinner with someone they allege raped them anally just 6 years earlier?
Doesn't make sense.

Abuse can have complex repercussions, eg victims of spousal abuse staying with their spouses.

 

[Brodders17]

Porter is either telling the truth or he is a very convincing liar and we will never know that either

he was a lawyer and is now a Liberal politician. i think that gives a pretty clear indication which option is right.

 

[Sintiger]

Why did Kate have dinner with Porter in 1994 according to her unsworn affidavit? It's a very pertinent question.
Why would anyone have dinner with someone they allege raped them anally just 6 years earlier?
Doesn't make sense. All the more reason for an independent inquiry.

Yes , having dinner is one thing. Who initiated it and what was said is very relevant but without witnesses an inquiry is not going to uncover that.
I think the idea of an inquiry is misunderstood. It won’t be about his guilt or innocence because that is for the police and ultimately the courts but may well be about whether he is a fit and proper person to be a minister and not just a minister but the Attorney General.

 

[AngryAnt]

Yes , having dinner is one thing. Who initiated it and what was said is very relevant but without witnesses an inquiry is not going to uncover that.
I think the idea of an inquiry is misunderstood. It won’t be about his guilt or innocence because that is for the police and ultimately the courts but may well be about whether he is a fit and proper person to be a minister and not just a minister but the Attorney General.

Exactly, which is why all the obfuscation and buck-passing to the police is cynical and misleading.

 

[Baloo]

Julie Bishop is calling for an inquiry into the Porter rape allegations as well now. Between these allegations and the Reynold's issue, it probably explains why Scotty from Marketing kept quiet all day yesterday.

 

[DavidSSS]

Yes , having dinner is one thing. Who initiated it and what was said is very relevant but without witnesses an inquiry is not going to uncover that.
I think the idea of an inquiry is misunderstood. It won’t be about his guilt or innocence because that is for the police and ultimately the courts but may well be about whether he is a fit and proper person to be a minister and not just a minister but the Attorney General.

They want to avoid this at all costs as it would find any skeletons in the closet.

DS

 

[artball]

To be clear I am not defending Porter.
He did address that in a way I didn't totally understand. He said that he had to wait until a time when his statements didn't prejudice the NSW police investigation and that as the Commonwealth's number 1 legal officer he had to do that.
I have no idea if that is true or not btw.

wasn't thinking you were ST
agree that it is confused messaging coming from the top lawyer in the land and it's not a good look..

 

[artball]

Abuse can have complex repercussions, eg victims of spousal abuse staying with their spouses.

Stockholm Syndrome

 

[HR]

Abuse can have complex repercussions, eg victims of spousal abuse staying with their spouses.

Huh.