Yes, we don't have a bill of rights in Australia, which also sucks. But even implicit rights being infringed by religious nutbags gets right up my goat baloo
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Yes, we don't have a bill of rights in Australia, which also sucks. But even implicit rights being infringed by religious nutbags gets right up my goat baloo
I don't disagree. The problem is the constitutional rights Australia has seems to protect religious nutbags more than average citizens.
NSW Health apologises for 163 doses of Pfizer Vaccine "accidently" given to boarders of the elite St Josephs school who weren't First Nation (28 of them are). ...and then they "accidently" did the girls school ..
hmmmm....
permission slips ?
hmmmm....
permission slips ?
fancy the new england branch of The Nationals
Nominating the bloke who reveiwed the sexual harrassnent allegations
against Barny Joyce, and made an inconclusive finding,
for the No.1 spot on their NSW senate ticket?
these *smile* do corruption, nepotism and arrogant unacountibility in broad daylight these days.
theyve dispensed with brown paper bags
I cant decide whether barnaby is doing an apprenticeship to succeed gillion mclachlan, or the other way around?
Nominating the bloke who reveiwed the sexual harrassnent allegations
against Barny Joyce, and made an inconclusive finding,
for the No.1 spot on their NSW senate ticket?
these *smile* do corruption, nepotism and arrogant unacountibility in broad daylight these days.
theyve dispensed with brown paper bags
I cant decide whether barnaby is doing an apprenticeship to succeed gillion mclachlan, or the other way around?
Blame lies squarely with Hawk, Keating and Howard for the changes they made to the foreign media ownership laws. When so few have control of most of the media, they can buy the government and protect it to secure their investment.
i take your point
but think blaming those blokes for barnaby joyce and his reef and river ruining roadshow,
is a drawing a medium sized bow
However, im happy to sheet every cultural dysfunction in australia, back to howard
I don't. The tight media control has enabled the government to act without any real consequence. So we end up with thugs in power. The only reason Joyce is leader is because there was little media scrutiny on him and his past exploits.
The fact we had Abbott as a PM is all the proof you need that there is no fourth estate in this country.
The fact we had Abbott as a PM is all the proof you need that there is no fourth estate in this country.
Jobs for the boys and girls.
"New research found the Morrison government has appointed a record number of former politicians to senior diplomatic posts, while the number of women leading Australian missions overseas has skyrocketed."
www.abc.net.au
"New research found the Morrison government has appointed a record number of former politicians to senior diplomatic posts, while the number of women leading Australian missions overseas has skyrocketed."
Political appointments to embassies have doubled under the Morrison government. The number of women in top diplomatic jobs has too
New research finds the number of women leading Australian diplomatic posts has skyrocketed in recent years, while a record number of former politicians have been appointed to senior diplomatic posts by the Morrison government.
i know what you are saying, and i dont like arguing against the premise.
but there are no impediments to anyone turning on the ABC, or reading the Guardian, even once a week,
and digesting the dysfunction of those in power.
i think its different. I think Howard turned the concept of the lucky country, somehow into heaps of lucky individuals living in the same country.
and 51% of individuals feel no effects from the barnaby joyces or joh barilaro and they do not care about any effect on others, our environment, our culture.
murdoch certainly doesnt help, but i dont reckon he made people uncaring and greedy,
Howard did, by shovelling money into the middleclass, and being a snivelling horrible cynical little *smile* for 12 *smile* years
Agree that Howard/Costello introduced middle class welfare into Australia so now everyone expects handouts from the Government as their right. hence the franked dividends saga of the last election. Take a step back away from emotion and you can see it's a ridiculous situation that is nothing more than a government handout.
But with something like 65-70% of the Australia's media being Newsmedia owned or having a stake in, they can pretty much control what the majority of the population see, and lead them down certain paths to get angry about. Those getting their news for other sources are branded radical greenie leftist socialist elites who are destroying the very fabric of what being Australian means.
What Australia has done to the "Biloela" family is mind numbingly disgraceful and reflects on all Australians. But the media don't make much noise over it, so most Australians probably don't understand exactly what is happening and why. So it looks like the majority of Aussies are uncaring when I think it's more ignorance of the case.
For me it's the concentration of media in Australia into a few players, the world's highest if you ignore countries with state controlled media, the is the root of the issue. That doesn't mean the current crop of politicians aren't all *smile*, it just means they can get away with it without too much scrutiny.
But with something like 65-70% of the Australia's media being Newsmedia owned or having a stake in, they can pretty much control what the majority of the population see, and lead them down certain paths to get angry about. Those getting their news for other sources are branded radical greenie leftist socialist elites who are destroying the very fabric of what being Australian means.
What Australia has done to the "Biloela" family is mind numbingly disgraceful and reflects on all Australians. But the media don't make much noise over it, so most Australians probably don't understand exactly what is happening and why. So it looks like the majority of Aussies are uncaring when I think it's more ignorance of the case.
For me it's the concentration of media in Australia into a few players, the world's highest if you ignore countries with state controlled media, the is the root of the issue. That doesn't mean the current crop of politicians aren't all *smile*, it just means they can get away with it without too much scrutiny.
your view is more pleasant and optimist.
that good people are manipulated and brainwashed by evil man.
mine is bleak and cynical
that greedy, uncaring, self centred people dont give a *smile*.
i think its probably both playing out.
my horror person are out there in large numbers, but howard and murdoch validated them and emboldened and harnessed them and it became a cultural movement.
Essentially a pecking order in a chook shed where the poor, black, migrant is just featherless, pink, bumpy skin and bone.
whereas a decent leader would, well lead, and persuade those towards a fair, equitable and caring place
A great nation. a lucky country.
rather than a quarry, with a heap of white people in lycra and a heap of black and brown people doing all the *smile* jobs
good onya.
i usually am after my 2nd coffee.
genuine question if i may: Is it a fair observation that your political veiwpoints have shifted left of centre the last few years?
brilliant post.
Do you need to be left leaning to understand the difference between right and wrong? Of course not. It comes down to educating yourself on the relevant issues.
The Biloela family for example… this is simply about human rights. But people just choose to ignore it because its not their problem. and the media help in this regard... which is why is strongly support Rudd's push for a Royal Commission. but it shouldn’t just single out the Murdoch media. It should be across the board.
Um, I don't know. I tend to think the centre has shifted to the right leaving me left of it.
Fiscally I am probably more conservative/right. But I do believe that there should be basic housing, health care and schooling available for everyone. I also detest middle class welfare, I'd much rather they lower the tax rate than hand out allowances to everyone.
My ideal world there would be public housing available if needed, basic health available. Good education as far as Uni provided by the government available to all Australian residents. I'd remove tax breaks for capital gains, negative gearing (or ring fence negative gearing to that investment that's negative and clawing back when it profits). But then I would have a lower tax rate, ideally a flat tax rate that would kick in at minimum wage x 1.5.
So I don't know where I am. I do like the look of The New Liberals
another Truth defence against an LNP politician suing for defamation this year?
www.theguardian.com
for champions of Free Speech, LNP blokes seem to sue for defamation a lot.
legally very cunning to request Joh Barilaro waives parliamentary privilege?
damned by all 63 of us Guardian readers if he does, damned if he dont.
Friendlyjordies files truth defence in defamation case against John Barilaro
Lawyers for YouTube personality Jordan Shanks say defence will be in part based on deputy premier’s description of himself as ‘Pork-Barilaro’
for champions of Free Speech, LNP blokes seem to sue for defamation a lot.
legally very cunning to request Joh Barilaro waives parliamentary privilege?
damned by all 63 of us Guardian readers if he does, damned if he dont.
anyone really surprised?
www.theguardian.com
“The government’s proposed CIC will not be able to do its job – the threshold is too high to begin investigations, and the public is left in the dark without open hearings or public reporting,” said Anthony Whealy QC, chair of the Centre for Public Integrity.
...
(Prof Anne) Twomey said the CIC has been designed in a way that “would exclude almost everyone who is aware of the corruption from informing the CIC of it”. Members of the public, public servants, ministerial advisers and office staff are not able to make a referral when they become aware that a member or minister is behaving corruptly.
“This is a shamefully inadequate system, which appears designed to protect the corrupt from investigation,” she said.
Coalition’s proposed anti-corruption commission would have no power to investigate recent controversies
Guardian analysis finds body lacks power and threshold too high to begin investigations, meaning car parks and sports rorts, and questions about expense claims would avoid scrutiny
“The government’s proposed CIC will not be able to do its job – the threshold is too high to begin investigations, and the public is left in the dark without open hearings or public reporting,” said Anthony Whealy QC, chair of the Centre for Public Integrity.
...
(Prof Anne) Twomey said the CIC has been designed in a way that “would exclude almost everyone who is aware of the corruption from informing the CIC of it”. Members of the public, public servants, ministerial advisers and office staff are not able to make a referral when they become aware that a member or minister is behaving corruptly.
“This is a shamefully inadequate system, which appears designed to protect the corrupt from investigation,” she said.
Absolutely not surprised, they don't want all of their recent corruption being investigated. And it's a very very long list of corruption.
Morrison's lies are breathtaking. Just in the last 24 hours he's lied directly to the public without any shame whatsoever.
www.themonthly.com.au
Morrison's lies are breathtaking. Just in the last 24 hours he's lied directly to the public without any shame whatsoever.
Lies upon lies
The only thing ramping up is the shamelessness of the PM’s falsehoods
www.themonthly.com.au
