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ssstone said:
and at the end of r+d,smart economics someone/country has to make them?????

Of course, where ever that may be, and in the way that it delivers the best economic outcome to you.
 
Tiger74 said:
Of course, where ever that may be, and in the way that it delivers the best economic outcome to you.
what happens tho t74 when there is no 3rd world country to rape for their labour? mark my words,once china/india wages rise ,and they will ,south africa is next.and how does that help australians that aren't rhodes scholars?
 
ssstone said:
what happens tho t74 when there is no 3rd world country to rape for their labour? mark my words,once china/india wages rise ,and they will ,south africa is next.and how does that help australians that aren't rhodes scholars?

Last time I checked its tough to outsource building a house to South Africa. There will always be jobs for those good with their hands.
 
Tiger74 said:
Last time I checked its tough to outsource building a house to South Africa. There will always be jobs for those good with their hands.
last time i checked not every failed academic can manual labour? to build or to be employed in the industry you need to be able to multi task.. this is not a skill anyone can just learn.
 
Disco08 said:
What percentage of the GDP does manufacturing account for? 10?

2000 figures are:

GDP - composition by sector:
agriculture: 3%
industry: 25%
services: 72% (2000 est.)

These figures are "total income" for 2005-2006

Total income
AGRICULTURE, FORESTRY AND FISHING 2.88%
MINING 4.72%
MANUFACTURING 16.90%
ELECTRICITY, GAS AND WATER SUPPLY 2.58%
CONSTRUCTION 9.23%
WHOLESALE TRADE 16.73%
RETAIL TRADE 14.98%
ACCOMMODATION, CAFES AND RESTAURANTS 2.42%
TRANSPORT AND STORAGE 5.17%
COMMUNICATION SERVICES 2.33%
PROPERTY AND BUSINESS SERVICES 14.94%
EDUCATION (private) 0.84%
HEALTH AND COMMUNITY SERVICES (private) 3.03%
CULTURAL AND RECREATIONAL SERVICES 1.87%
PERSONAL AND OTHER SERVICES 1.37%
 
ssstone said:
last time i checked not every failed academic can manual labour? to build or to be employed in the industry you need to be able to multi task.. this is not a skill anyone can just learn.

I agree, Dad make his money on the tools, but you wanted to know what options are there for those who are not Rhodes Scholars. Building is the first that came to mind.

The next is transport.

The next is mining.

All are skilled industries that DO NOT rely on a uni degree which was your point.
 
Tiger74 said:
I agree, Dad make his money on the tools, but you wanted to know what options are there for those who are not Rhodes Scholars. Building is the first that came to mind.

The next is transport.

The next is mining.

All are skilled industries that DO NOT rely on a uni degree which was your point.
i am listening t74. but ive have known thru my background a hell of a lot of dickheads that havent got the intellect/common sense to do any thing other than factory work.and there is no way on earth they would survive in the mining ind.
 
ssstone said:
i am listening t74. but ive have known thru my background a hell of a lot of *smile*s that havent got the intellect/common sense to do any thing other than factory work.and there is no way on earth they would survive in the mining ind.

I know, and I definitely get where you are coming from.

The days of unskilled filling factories though have been dying for ages. Tech upgrades of factories now mean that not only less labour is needed, often it needs to be more skilled to get the job done.

Big generalization I know, but these kind of discussions are full of them :)
 
Tiger74 said:
I know, and I definitely get where you are coming from.

The days of unskilled filling factories though have been dying for ages. Tech upgrades of factories now mean that not only less labour is needed, often it needs to be more skilled to get the job done.

Big generalization I know, but these kind of discussions are full of them :)
so apart from the dole and generations of "guvvermint employees" how do we employ them? the same intellects that dissmiss our decline as manufactorers ,expect us to "improve" these people while they happily sell their jobs off shore? :headscratch
 
ssstone said:
so apart from the dole and generations of "guvvermint employees" how do we employ them? the same intellects that dissmiss our decline as manufactorers ,expect us to "improve" these people while they happily sell their jobs off shore? :headscratch

There will always be jobs, and transport is an obvious one given the way a few truckdrivers manage their rigs (not all, just a few) - nearly got rear-ended today on teh Monash, so holding a grudge....
 
ssstone said:
last time i checked not every failed academic can manual labour? to build or to be employed in the industry you need to be able to multi task.. this is not a skill anyone can just learn.

I agree, people who are too thick to be able to do more than one task are in trouble.
 
A little boy goes to his dad and asks, "What is Politics?"

Dad says, "Well son, let me try to explain it this way:

I am the head of the family, so call me The Prime Minister.

Your mother is the administrator of the money, so we call her the Government.

We are here to take care of your needs, so we will call you the People.

The nanny, we will consider her the Working Class.

And your baby brother, we will call him the Future.

Now think about that and see if it makes sense."

So the little boy goes off to bed thinking about what Dad has said.

Later that night,! he hears his baby brother crying, so he gets up to check on him.

He finds that the baby has severely soiled his nappy.

So the little boy goes to his parent's room and finds his mother asleep.


Not wanting to wake her, he goes to the nanny's room. Finding the door locked, he peeks in the keyhole and see s his father in bed with the nanny.
He gives up and goes back to bed.

The next morning, the little boy say's to his father, "Dad, I think I understand the concept of politics now. "

The father says, "Good, son, tell me in your own words what you think politics is all about."

The little boy replies, "The prime Minister is screwing the Working Class while the Government is sound asleep. The People are being ignored and the Future is in deep s * *t."
 
Didn't take long.
Broken promise number-1:

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2007/11/27/1196036893172.html?s_rid=theage:top5
 
Liverpool said:
Didn't take long.
Broken promise number-1:

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2007/11/27/1196036893172.html?s_rid=theage:top5

You forgot to mention this bit

However, the concept pre-dates Mr Rudd's leadership and Labor cancelled its national-security policy launch during the campaign.

Not to mention the concept and practice has been an abject failure in the US.
 
Talking politics, remember when I was ridiculing Costello for failing to have the guts to go for the Liberal leadership, and thinking about what Keating said about him, found this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rnwn4q_ZE9c

Amazing - Keating knew Costello better in 1995 than the fellow ever knew himself.
 
jb03 said:
"The prime Minister is screwing the Working Class while the Government is sound asleep. The People are being ignored and the Future is in deep s * *t."

Very good Jack Black. ;D

antman said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rnwn4q_ZE9c

Amazing - Keating knew Costello better in 1995 than the fellow ever knew himself.

I didn't like Keating much but he totally nails Costello.